True, but them having very powerful abilities but no fourth and mostly being vulnerable to the several nightkills flying around made this fairly swingy. Like, yes, they could have gotten significant control over the vote relatively quickly, but even without Archeo's mistake we had multiple cop type roles, multiple kills, and on and on.
If there had been 4 PCs, that would have put too much pressure on you, terrabrand. You would be the only thing preventing role reveal = death; If scum can identify NPCs, then they win as soon as NPC+Mafia > Town thanks to vote compelling, and with a triple kill added on to that that could happen in a single night since 8>7. Being readily able to lose day 1 like that would have been way too punishing, especially since town didn't know how deadly role reveal was in this case.
How would it have interacted with Daisy? Would it have come up with 'Not Aligned' if compared with Waluigi?
Interesting choice here Derp
There weren't a whole lot of kills outside of their group, the arsonist is better off waiting on account of being an arsonist, the Toads were a single use revenge vig, and the staff was also single use and not out immediately either. Daisy was a fairly weak cop, Luigi was immune to both cops, and the Arsonist could prevent someone from being copped properly by Mario. Throw in Rosalina and DK and I'm not feeling like we were too strong investigative-wise.
My point is they probably should have been slightly weaker in per head abilities but had a fourth member. Scum losing any of their three would instantly stack the odds against them, moreso than a couple of generic mafia in a small mostly vanilla game even though that's half their ranks dead.
Yes, obviously in order for role reveals to equal death, you need actual role reveals. With that being said, though, mario investigating waluigi wouldn't have helped. In order for scum to coerce NPCs, they need self-admitted mafia member anyway, and having Mario investigate one would make that choice easy
And then Waluigi is lynched. Like. My point is they needed early role reveals and to not lose Waluigi for that to work. There wasn't any particularly expendable members of the group, where eg back in Brighton scum could pretty easily afford to lose any of their members, especially those other than the Warlock, because they didn't lose any really important powers from individual deaths.
Waluigi couldn't be lynched in that case, because with 4 cpus dead, scum +npcs (8) is a majority of 15
Yes. If they got three different town to honestly claim their name, and the lynch went to a town player and not one of the neutrals.
It's treason then.
... This was only medium level, I really goofed up N1 and that pretty much tanked our chances of winning.
The neutrals don't have a choice. Once neutrals reveal themselves (or are revealed to exist in general), scum can force them to lynch whoever they want.
I assume no one, since Derpmind said he got ignited.
