- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Rem claimed King Boo/medium, and Depmind still hasn't claimed.
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Mafio Party
- Thread starter ComiTurtle
- Start date
- Mafia
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- Tags
- mafia
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Further touched up list.
Total claims-
Winged Cat: Claimed CPU Lynched and proven: Luigi
Rikimaru: Claimed Shy Guy/Vanilla Town - Backed by Notteboy and somewhat by
Archeo Lumio: No claim however proven: Waluigi at the start of Day 2
Cyricubed: Claim of Daisy and investigative
Derpmind: Claim of NPC and a power. Somewhat backed by BB in that NPC's exist
Broken Base: Claim of Bowser, however if investigated will show up as NPC
Terrabrand: Claim of Wario. Claims Multivoter.
Joebobjoe: Softclaim of being a minion of bowser, named as well
Lizard Knight: BB says received letter last night that he is CPU, later claims Peach?( Needs clarification) States saying he was NPC was mistake
Nictis: Claims his brother is good.
Notteboy97: Claims Koopa Trooper
Cheese4every1: Claims Rosalinna, and a form of transporter
QTesseract: Claims Mario and Rolecop.
Nanimani: Claims Donkey Kong and Roleblocker
Rem: Claims King Boo/Medium.
Elff: Claims unspecified Town.
Soft Claims: Nictis in a sense, Joebobjoe in a sense.
No claims: Letmebefree, Pawn Lelouch.
Total claims-
Winged Cat: Claimed CPU Lynched and proven: Luigi
Rikimaru: Claimed Shy Guy/Vanilla Town - Backed by Notteboy and somewhat by
Archeo Lumio: No claim however proven: Waluigi at the start of Day 2
Cyricubed: Claim of Daisy and investigative
Derpmind: Claim of NPC and a power. Somewhat backed by BB in that NPC's exist
Broken Base: Claim of Bowser, however if investigated will show up as NPC
Terrabrand: Claim of Wario. Claims Multivoter.
Joebobjoe: Softclaim of being a minion of bowser, named as well
Lizard Knight: BB says received letter last night that he is CPU, later claims Peach?( Needs clarification) States saying he was NPC was mistake
Nictis: Claims his brother is good.
Notteboy97: Claims Koopa Trooper
Cheese4every1: Claims Rosalinna, and a form of transporter
QTesseract: Claims Mario and Rolecop.
Nanimani: Claims Donkey Kong and Roleblocker
Rem: Claims King Boo/Medium.
Elff: Claims unspecified Town.
Soft Claims: Nictis in a sense, Joebobjoe in a sense.
No claims: Letmebefree, Pawn Lelouch.
- Location
- Castle Oblivious
Broken Base and Cyricubed received a letter
Cyricubed has stated they have.
Just to complete the info in place.
-adjusts crown-
When I fully wake up after breakfast I'll do that effort post I promised
- Location
- Castle Oblivious
Also Naninami just claimed that they are a jailer, not just a roleblocker. I assume that is relevant?
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
True. I don't feel like updating it this very moment but should probably include it next time.
Cyricubed
Residant Bird.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Birb
If you could even add in my finding results to add extra clarity that would be appreciated. Also looking it over something feels very strange. This leaves one person who we are pretty sure is scum-lying and 4 people that we really have no claim information on...at this point in time I honestly think at the very least we should just finish up name claiming. Also don't forget to add @MedievalParadox to that list under no claims and that Joebobjoe claims to have some form of power?
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- She/Her
Honestly if there isn't 1 scum fakeclaiming a PR, or is a scum version of that PR, I'd be kind of surprised. It's possible, of course, anything is possible. But...
So what exactly are we gaining from mass name claiming? Have no real objection, just want to get the goal.
Letmebefree
Unfortunately back
- Location
- Home of the deep fried Marsbar
Hmm I just woke up and I'm not sure who to vote, qt seems pretty sus but so does medievalparadox but only on a lesser scale so
[X] Lynch QTesseract
[X] Lynch QTesseract
Legend of Ruina
Growing eyes on the inside
[X] Lynch Midieval Paradox
Because honestly I'm supportive of the Q lynch, but really would like to be vaguely secure on who the second person lynched is. Currently we've got three different people within one vote of each other.
Because honestly I'm supportive of the Q lynch, but really would like to be vaguely secure on who the second person lynched is. Currently we've got three different people within one vote of each other.
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- She/Her
Why are you trying to lynch the doc Riki????????
I knew I shouldn't have trusted you
Cyricubed
Residant Bird.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Birb
Wut.exe
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
@Broken Base please explain what you mean by Paradox being the doctor now.
Letmebefree
Unfortunately back
- Location
- Home of the deep fried Marsbar
The put in to lynch medieval paradoc
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Because seriously BB, Paradox doesn't have a claim that I can see and accusing Riki of trying to lynch the doctor because he's going after one of the most suspicious players.
... If that's the case it's such a bad joke.
... If that's the case it's such a bad joke.
- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
As far as I can tell, we don't have a normal cop. I was operating on the assumption that your role did something, particularly since it seemed IC for mario to distrust bowser. I also can't learn names, so I couldnt even confirm you as bowser.
You were suspicious of them, but for me vs joe you gave it an essentialy guarenteed. For me, saying something like that indicates supreme confidence you are right, which in turn means it being wrong is a greater indicator, whether of how well your intuition of the game matches the game itself (confirmed later, admittedly), and as evidence for if you were actually town.
I don't know why you would want me to waste a rolecop investigation on a comfirmed town? What would vetting teo already vetted charachters accomplish vs scumhunting.
If you'll note, I confirmed it before them.
After yesterday, I refuse to beleive that whoever is in control is anything other than scum or hostile NPC. I'm leaning hevaily towards scum, too, but ehoever it is obviously isnt a survivor, no matter what they claim.
Mario party is a 4 person game; the only exceptions are 7, which allowed a 4v4 game, and 10, which allowed 4 + A Bowser player. Either you're the 5th scum, or there is none, since we already have a second faction (and there's really no way to balance out 8 scum, especially with power roles).
I'm not a namecop, just faction and power. I have no idea what @Ellf 's charachter is. After the conversation, it says I "can't quite remember who they are."
Well, unfortunately for me here, Ellf is as vanilla as it gets. Standard CPU, no talents, no resources whatsoever. His charachter just here to play the game.
Cyricubed
Residant Bird.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Birb
Yes...according to your claim...however you never verbalized such, that being, I was the first one to openly provide the information that Ellf was Pseudo-confirmed, you happened to post it down after me.
And in regards to Lakitu...I think...it was something to do with a players power to make an announcement at the start o
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Now with some touch ups and a claimed night action log. Tried to note all examples of posters claiming a given night action, given that eg the Rosalina Transporter claim can be ruled out as fake due to players consistently claiming to have been transported where eg the Daisy claim is only claimed at one end albeit with limited supporting evidence in alignment claims.
Total claims-
Winged Cat: Claimed CPU Lynched and proven: Luigi
Rikimaru: Claimed Shy Guy/Vanilla Town - Backed by Notteboy and somewhat by
Archeo Lumio: No claim however proven: Waluigi at the start of Day 2
Cyricubed: Claim of Daisy and investigative
Derpmind: Claim of NPC and a power. Somewhat backed by BB in that NPC's exist
Broken Base: Claim of Bowser, however if investigated will show up as NPC
Terrabrand: Claim of Wario. Claims Multivoter.
Joebobjoe: Softclaim of being a minion of bowser, named as well. Claims unspecified power.
Lizard Knight: BB says received letter last night that he is CPU, later claims Peach?( Needs clarification) States saying he was NPC was mistake
Nictis: Claims his brother is good.
Notteboy97: Claims Koopa Trooper/softclaim of Vanilla.
Cheese4every1: Claims Rosalinna, and a form of transporter
QTesseract: Claims Mario and Rolecop.
Nanimani: Claims Donkey Kong and Jailor.
Rem: Claims King Boo/Medium.
Ellf: Claims unspecified Town.
Soft Claims: Nictis in a sense, Joebobjoe in a sense.
No claims: Letmebefree, Pawn Lelouch, MedievalParadox.
Night action claims:
N1:
QTesseract claims investigated Ellf. Claims Ellf is vanilla.
Nanimani jailed Rikimaru going by claims.
Cyricubed claims investigated Terrabrand and Derpmind, result of not same alignment. This would be true by the claims, however Derpmind could also be lying scum (or so could Terrabrand going by publicly proven information) and lead to this result.
Cheese4every1 claims Transported Rikimaru and Archeo Lumiere. This is supported by Rikimaru's night flavor claims and Archeo's death.
LizardKnight claims sent a letter proving alignment to Broken Base. The latter claimed this letter occured as well, and in fact revealed it first.
N2:
Cheese4every1 claims Transported Terrabrand and Derpmind. Both players independently mentioned being transported before this claim.
Nanimani claims jailed QTesseract. Q also claims this, but only in response to the claim.
LizardKnight claims sent letter to Cyricubed. Cyricubed claims the same.
Cyricubed claims investigated Rikimaru and Ellf, result of Same Alignment.
Total claims-
Winged Cat: Claimed CPU Lynched and proven: Luigi
Rikimaru: Claimed Shy Guy/Vanilla Town - Backed by Notteboy and somewhat by
Archeo Lumio: No claim however proven: Waluigi at the start of Day 2
Cyricubed: Claim of Daisy and investigative
Derpmind: Claim of NPC and a power. Somewhat backed by BB in that NPC's exist
Broken Base: Claim of Bowser, however if investigated will show up as NPC
Terrabrand: Claim of Wario. Claims Multivoter.
Joebobjoe: Softclaim of being a minion of bowser, named as well. Claims unspecified power.
Lizard Knight: BB says received letter last night that he is CPU, later claims Peach?( Needs clarification) States saying he was NPC was mistake
Nictis: Claims his brother is good.
Notteboy97: Claims Koopa Trooper/softclaim of Vanilla.
Cheese4every1: Claims Rosalinna, and a form of transporter
QTesseract: Claims Mario and Rolecop.
Nanimani: Claims Donkey Kong and Jailor.
Rem: Claims King Boo/Medium.
Ellf: Claims unspecified Town.
Soft Claims: Nictis in a sense, Joebobjoe in a sense.
No claims: Letmebefree, Pawn Lelouch, MedievalParadox.
Night action claims:
N1:
QTesseract claims investigated Ellf. Claims Ellf is vanilla.
Nanimani jailed Rikimaru going by claims.
Cyricubed claims investigated Terrabrand and Derpmind, result of not same alignment. This would be true by the claims, however Derpmind could also be lying scum (or so could Terrabrand going by publicly proven information) and lead to this result.
Cheese4every1 claims Transported Rikimaru and Archeo Lumiere. This is supported by Rikimaru's night flavor claims and Archeo's death.
LizardKnight claims sent a letter proving alignment to Broken Base. The latter claimed this letter occured as well, and in fact revealed it first.
N2:
Cheese4every1 claims Transported Terrabrand and Derpmind. Both players independently mentioned being transported before this claim.
Nanimani claims jailed QTesseract. Q also claims this, but only in response to the claim.
LizardKnight claims sent letter to Cyricubed. Cyricubed claims the same.
Cyricubed claims investigated Rikimaru and Ellf, result of Same Alignment.
Nanimani
Probably listening to music
- Pronouns
- She/Her
N1, I jailed Archeo.
It's just that the switch between him and Riki by Cheese got me to jail Riki.
- Location
- Castle Oblivious
Oké, WiFi is rather patchy right now. I will make post analysis of atleast one person before I go to bed, as promised
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- She/Her
In case you don't want to dig through my response to Q, I think this is legitimately worth reading:
"Wait. You're a cop that specifically checks roles/powers. We specifically say that Rem is full of shit on his role, not just me but a couple other decently active users in non-terrible standing, and you don't check the person that, we were silently and unconsciously asking you to check? Or the other user at the end of the day we were collectively calling BS on? Sorry I gotta call BS on that."
Sorry everyone, nobody ever said I was good at jokes ^_^;
So onto Q
Was referring to Cyri as our cop equivalent. And I mean I guess but if somebody is leading the town and they're a miller I feel like it's a risk I want to take? I mean if I'm scum I'm obviously not actually a scum miller, that'd be silly. xP And despite the fact that miller is a lynchable role nobody is really taking the prospect of lynching me particularly seriously. Nor should they, but I'm biased. Like especially when you know we already have a cop of sorts, alignment cop I guess, which is specifically useless against me. If there are two cops, are both really going to do literally nothing on a miller? When you bother to have two competely different ones that function totally differently? One isn't going to act as a check on the other in the interest of fairness? I admit it makes the debuff stronger, but not in a way that actively hurts the town's chances that much and it also feels rather unlikely to me. Like I actually do get where you're coming from on the "Mario would have weird interactions with Bowser" angle, it's something I'd consider too, but given the context we got on Day 2 I'm unconvinced overall that you wouldn't see, looking at the overall gamestate, how the benefits wouldn't outweigh the risks. Arguably a super weird result could be confirmation in its own right when everything is taken into account?
Like, also another thing that makes it a little weird. Cyri seems to have a decent amount of trust in me and while he's not my slave, that does mean I think he's going to take my suggestions closer to heart than perhaps you would. So wasn't there a decent chance that instead of Ellf he'd hit joebob? At least there's a 1/4 chance I'd personally say. Like if you don't want to hit me there soooo many people to hit.
Wait. You're a cop that specifically checks roles/powers. We specifically say that Rem is full of shit on his role, not just me but a couple other decently active users in non-terrible standing, and you don't check the person that, we were silently and unconsciously asking you to check? Or the other user at the end of the day we were collectively calling BS on? Sorry I gotta call BS on that.
Why not let Cyri take care of it? This is something he could handle. Also why aren't we considering Nictis as part of this equation? He's always been a possibility too. I mean okay, I have a lot of confidence you're scum but even right now, when I can't see myself unvoting you today, I admit that I could in theory be wrong and joe/Nictis are scum. Or my entire read of this situation was borked because somehow all of us on the wagon were town/town adjacent. That would be super bizarre but like... it's possible? Like having this choice not only sink somebody's credibilty but determine alignment sounds silly; it isn't always silly, but I feel like it is in this context. Nictis was like RAWR RIKI and that is his main substantial contribution but I'm not suspicious of him being of Riki being town, I'm suspicious of him (Dependent upon check today) not really feeling like he's done much else of substance.
As Cyri noted, only if we believe you. Regardess your willingness to share the role when specifically pressed indicates to me that you do have access to rolecop information. So's all cool on that front.
I'm pretty sure that they weren't confirmed Town at the end of D1? Even if you think Notte-scum covering for Riki-scum would be really weird, I can totally buy that, Notte could be scum covering for Riki, Riki could be scum and Notte could be offbase- it was a "similar" role, after all, not the same. That probably would make a different in a lot of games. Like we didn't treat Riki like confirmed town at all, just that Notte made it much much more unlikely for them to be scum. So it might be worth checking.
Yesterday genuinely isn't great argument for scum, given the actual mechanic. If this was like I believe an actual gladiator battle and we had to lynch Terra or I, like I assumed, then it would have been a stellar one. But we could NL. This actively torpedoes the usefulness of the whole thing because now the main strength, doing exactly what they did in theory, is totally pointless because we have an opt-out clause. The choice could even be benign when you consider whatever that weird gift thing is supposed to mean or do. (For the record I genuinely have no idea, I've gotten no info on that.) And while some players like derp were pressured into a claim, Cheese, Rem, Lizard al claimed due to town error (imo at least)- the first two definitely their own, the third also arguably mine. Like I guess scum could rely on town playing erratically like that, but it's a bit of a gamble. What if we had just spent the days stocking up on scumhunting, solidifying reads, and getting things locked down? That'd have been catastrophic. But not as bad for a benign NPC. If it's Lakitu it even makes more sense for them to benign NPC than be scum.
It's worth noting that fidelity to this aspect is unnecessarily twisting your own arm balance-wise when you simply don't need to. If there are 5 scum, I don't think any of us will be super upset, after all. And you yourself point out a possible scenario that doesn't even necessarily mean I have to be scum. Yes they're a Bowser player, but I can think of plenty of people that could fit that role without me being them. And that's if you assume fidelity to the word in a game where Luigi was scum.
"Wait. You're a cop that specifically checks roles/powers. We specifically say that Rem is full of shit on his role, not just me but a couple other decently active users in non-terrible standing, and you don't check the person that, we were silently and unconsciously asking you to check? Or the other user at the end of the day we were collectively calling BS on? Sorry I gotta call BS on that."
Sorry everyone, nobody ever said I was good at jokes ^_^;
So onto Q
Was referring to Cyri as our cop equivalent. And I mean I guess but if somebody is leading the town and they're a miller I feel like it's a risk I want to take? I mean if I'm scum I'm obviously not actually a scum miller, that'd be silly. xP And despite the fact that miller is a lynchable role nobody is really taking the prospect of lynching me particularly seriously. Nor should they, but I'm biased. Like especially when you know we already have a cop of sorts, alignment cop I guess, which is specifically useless against me. If there are two cops, are both really going to do literally nothing on a miller? When you bother to have two competely different ones that function totally differently? One isn't going to act as a check on the other in the interest of fairness? I admit it makes the debuff stronger, but not in a way that actively hurts the town's chances that much and it also feels rather unlikely to me. Like I actually do get where you're coming from on the "Mario would have weird interactions with Bowser" angle, it's something I'd consider too, but given the context we got on Day 2 I'm unconvinced overall that you wouldn't see, looking at the overall gamestate, how the benefits wouldn't outweigh the risks. Arguably a super weird result could be confirmation in its own right when everything is taken into account?
Like, also another thing that makes it a little weird. Cyri seems to have a decent amount of trust in me and while he's not my slave, that does mean I think he's going to take my suggestions closer to heart than perhaps you would. So wasn't there a decent chance that instead of Ellf he'd hit joebob? At least there's a 1/4 chance I'd personally say. Like if you don't want to hit me there soooo many people to hit.
Wait. You're a cop that specifically checks roles/powers. We specifically say that Rem is full of shit on his role, not just me but a couple other decently active users in non-terrible standing, and you don't check the person that, we were silently and unconsciously asking you to check? Or the other user at the end of the day we were collectively calling BS on? Sorry I gotta call BS on that.
Why not let Cyri take care of it? This is something he could handle. Also why aren't we considering Nictis as part of this equation? He's always been a possibility too. I mean okay, I have a lot of confidence you're scum but even right now, when I can't see myself unvoting you today, I admit that I could in theory be wrong and joe/Nictis are scum. Or my entire read of this situation was borked because somehow all of us on the wagon were town/town adjacent. That would be super bizarre but like... it's possible? Like having this choice not only sink somebody's credibilty but determine alignment sounds silly; it isn't always silly, but I feel like it is in this context. Nictis was like RAWR RIKI and that is his main substantial contribution but I'm not suspicious of him being of Riki being town, I'm suspicious of him (Dependent upon check today) not really feeling like he's done much else of substance.
As Cyri noted, only if we believe you. Regardess your willingness to share the role when specifically pressed indicates to me that you do have access to rolecop information. So's all cool on that front.
I'm pretty sure that they weren't confirmed Town at the end of D1? Even if you think Notte-scum covering for Riki-scum would be really weird, I can totally buy that, Notte could be scum covering for Riki, Riki could be scum and Notte could be offbase- it was a "similar" role, after all, not the same. That probably would make a different in a lot of games. Like we didn't treat Riki like confirmed town at all, just that Notte made it much much more unlikely for them to be scum. So it might be worth checking.
Yesterday genuinely isn't great argument for scum, given the actual mechanic. If this was like I believe an actual gladiator battle and we had to lynch Terra or I, like I assumed, then it would have been a stellar one. But we could NL. This actively torpedoes the usefulness of the whole thing because now the main strength, doing exactly what they did in theory, is totally pointless because we have an opt-out clause. The choice could even be benign when you consider whatever that weird gift thing is supposed to mean or do. (For the record I genuinely have no idea, I've gotten no info on that.) And while some players like derp were pressured into a claim, Cheese, Rem, Lizard al claimed due to town error (imo at least)- the first two definitely their own, the third also arguably mine. Like I guess scum could rely on town playing erratically like that, but it's a bit of a gamble. What if we had just spent the days stocking up on scumhunting, solidifying reads, and getting things locked down? That'd have been catastrophic. But not as bad for a benign NPC. If it's Lakitu it even makes more sense for them to benign NPC than be scum.
It's worth noting that fidelity to this aspect is unnecessarily twisting your own arm balance-wise when you simply don't need to. If there are 5 scum, I don't think any of us will be super upset, after all. And you yourself point out a possible scenario that doesn't even necessarily mean I have to be scum. Yes they're a Bowser player, but I can think of plenty of people that could fit that role without me being them. And that's if you assume fidelity to the word in a game where Luigi was scum.
Rem
fite me
I don't have anything to report — the only users in the dead chat are myself, Archeo Lumio, and Winged Cat (who has chosen not to participate in this game further).
Archeo Lumio understandably hasn't given me much in the way of information, and I haven't really pressed him. He mentioned having another, more lethal kill flavor (We were discussing whether anyone would actually die in this game, or if they'd just be disqualified) but that doesn't tell us much, I feel.
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I just finished my internship and have returned home from traveling, so I should be able to spare more time for this. I will read over what has happened in the past day now.
Archeo Lumio understandably hasn't given me much in the way of information, and I haven't really pressed him. He mentioned having another, more lethal kill flavor (We were discussing whether anyone would actually die in this game, or if they'd just be disqualified) but that doesn't tell us much, I feel.
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I just finished my internship and have returned home from traveling, so I should be able to spare more time for this. I will read over what has happened in the past day now.
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- She/Her
Okay I'm going to try to at least get to Pawn, Nictis, and joe today. Hopefully a smaller user or two too.
Legend of Ruina
Growing eyes on the inside
Sorry, brother had surgery so been a bit busy, and just caught something as free time started up. Will still be able to play, just won't be at my best.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Presupposing you are telling the truth about being a medium and the mechanism by which you do so, scum having access to a more lethal kill flavor would likely bar a player from deadchat.