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- USA
Give a "serum"
LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)
- Thread starter Black King
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- Hala
What serum? lol
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- Pee Pee Poo Poo
Maybe we should just kill him to get it over with, we already killed the charismatic brother, easiest time to finish the job. Shapeshift into a tiny form and go inside him, then grow in size so you explode him from inside. Kinda like antman and hulk.
[X] "Yes." (lie, poison him!!!)
[X] "Yes." (lie, poison him!!!)
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- United states
For gods sake no. Seriously, this kind of reasoning is what screws us over. The guy has high intrigue and controls Jotunheim and thus one of the most powerful armies in the universe. Acting like something is defitiely going to go off without a hitch and work completely as intended is what screwed us over with the brother killing since people voting for it assumed that it would totally work and not piss off a ton of people and backfire. Not to mention that Thor may not like the idea of us undermining Asgard's role in watching over the Nine Realms. Amora at least would probably be pretty pissed at Loki pulling that kind of crap.
Yeah he did it himself but he is pretty crazy. So unless he openly starts shit we lay off any such attempts and not have another repeat of attacking someone that is in a really good position as in another Thanos incident.
Shit, meant to say not doing that since that would be way too likely to backfire.
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- Pee Pee Poo Poo
I disagree. What screws us over is being indecisive, kill him and get it over with.
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- United states
No, it's the terrible decisions that keep screwing us over and not thinking things through. Like it's been outright pointed out that killing the other brother was a terrible idea and people ignored it under the assumption that killing him was a good idea because they completely mistook assumptions as facts and not considered that they could have been wrong in their assumptions. Then we have the thing with Thanos where people were repeatedly warning against pissing him off since he can retaliate and it lead to the genocide of the Dwarves.
Trying to poison a leader of the Nine Realms for no provocation is freaking stupid and poorly thought out. First off he has poison magic, second he is has high intrigue, third he isn't stupid, four he literally controls one of the strongest armies in the universe, five that could be considered treason since we are literally acting against the Nine Realms and six that risks screwing us over when taking into account all the other points. There, I literally put up over 5 different points explaining why this is a terrible idea.
Seriously, this is just poorly thought out and poorly thought out ideas is part of the terrible decision making process that keeps screwing us over.
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- Pee Pee Poo Poo
Alright, let's make us of our shapeshifting and blow him from the inside. Loki has higher intrigue than hellbindi.
[] "Yes." (lie, shapeshift into tiny Loki, enter his body and blow him up by growing into a giant!!!)
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Good rolls make anything possible.
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- Hala
*facepalm*
I don't know whether to laugh or not.
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Yes. Wanna teleport weed into thors mouth and make him chill out? Roll good enough.
Anyways if you guys have a better idea than waiting for him to do something bad before reacting then go ahead and put that forward.
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- United states
...You are not listening. This is the same crap that fucked us over not just this quest but last quest in that people decided to attack someone extremely powerful and severely underestimated them. We've already seen Hellbindi probably coming back from the dead and he is also a time master, poison master and illusion master along with whatever other bullshit he has including potential Jotun artifacts. Not to mention that he is good enough to learn about a lot of the stuff we do including the chaos serum. Then there is the trouble of actually succeeding in killing him or failing including causing chaos on Jotunheim and a potential war with the Jotun that could we don't nee to start shit with.
...No they do not, there are literally a number of quests where the QM outright tells the players that something is a stupid idea and shouldn't be tried. You are also severely underestimating how much rolls affect things as in the actual risks.
I swear to god it feels like people are just troll voting for an idea they likely know is terrible.
Anyway thinking we might want to maybe forget about getting our body back and maybe even use the chaos serum to give us something else to sacrifice to the Well and the QM did mention that it would give a ton of points.
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- Hala
@KnowledgeKing IF Dice Gods somehow miraculously give us Nat 100 on the Poison Intrigue roll and roll in total very good.
How much DC would be necessary to kill Helblindi?
How much DC would be necessary to kill Helblindi?
If we trade with @DreamCWeaver we get a nuke we can use on hellbindi to kill him.
We're in the endgame now.
Well actually....
Yeah, fuck, unless he has a way to get off world, he should die. But that's only if you wanna blow up a lot of Jotuns.
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- Fifth Dimension
Loki doesn't know.
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- United states
How about being a lot more smart about it besides just rushing into things? First off it makes no damn sense for us to kill him IC so it might be a good start to play the intrigue game to find actual justifications to have him removed. If we find actual justifications then it becomes much less of a problem. Suggest maybe waiting a turn to go to the Well and maybe try sacrificing the chaos magic we would gain by drinking the serum and by that I mean doing it right before the sacrifice since we would have only to roll a 1/2 to succeed and we have a re-roll to help things. Asked the QM and they mentioned that it would give us 100 points if we sacrificed it. Throw in an eye and we could get 150 points which we can keep on top of everything else if we don't undo the sacrifice. At which point things become a lot easier for us since we would have gotten a huge boost.
Seriously, there are a lot of ways to handle it and if we must we should do things the smart way.
Sena Kumo
The Tenth Wandering Cloud
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- Portugal
Someone called me?
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- Hala
Tell me, can Loki Poison you?
Also, your poison stat, pls.
Permanently sacrificing body parts is a bad idea. Temporarily sacrificing lokis entire body had severe consequences, permanently sacrificing an eye will have bad consequences too, maybe worse since its permanent.
Im still keen on killing him, but I can wait as long as we do the sacrifice next turn. Although killing him now could maybe let us sacrifice him for even more points.
Its also confirmed by @DreamCWeaver that we get a op nuke to easily kill him from a distance if we trade with him.
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- Hala
Not confirmed. I don't know if he can teleport or if he's able to counter act it. I can give you something that could definitely kill him as he is, and the Jotun planet if he can't leave the planet. I'll need to be protected to finish building it for you tho, and it needs to be positioned. The second part isn't a problem really, but yeah, it takes a while to prep a nuke. Also after it's made it's up to you to stop it from being stolen.
We have chitauri specialized in teleportation cant they block teleportation in a area?
No clue.