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LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)

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[X] Spare them.

[X] Yes
-[x] But tell him not to tell anyone about what he sees.

[X] Make a Cold Forge

[X] [Exosuit] Increased the durability of the suit
[X] [Exosuit] Added stealth capabilities
[X] [Exosuit] Installed a forcefield
 
Even if stealth only helps with sneaking, does anyone want to ask Amora to read the Smithing books and see the space stone? If she knows what the Tesseract is she won't allow it and Loki is the ruler of Jotunheim it would be difficult to get in to Odin's library.
 
Darkcore41 said:
Even if stealth only helps with sneaking, does anyone want to ask Amora to read the Smithing books and see the space stone? If she knows what the Tesseract is she won't allow it and Loki is the ruler of Jotunheim it would be difficult to get in to Odin's library.
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How about we just ask after our rule is over instead of needlessly risking a colossal political shit storm by having the ruler of a nation, who also happens a Frost Giant, sneaking into the palace and the library and vault filled with powerful artifacts. Feels like people are obsessing too much over shinies and not considering things like serious consequences.

So you are pretty much advocating getting something extremely situational that we may not even end up using instead of other features we are far more likely to use. Especially if shit hits the fan.

Besides that raising our skill would only lower the DCs for smiting which may not even be that crucial if we are sacrificing something to boost forging.
KnowledgeKing said:
Sneaking/hiding
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So it's pretty much useless for anything intrigue related outside of sneaking/hiding which we don't even actually do much of. I reiterate, it's a waste compared to all the other features we can get that we are far more likely to actually use.
 
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Red Bovine said:
How about we just ask after our rule is over instead of needlessly risking a colossal political shit storm by having the ruler of a nation, who also happens a Frost Giant, sneaking into the palace and the library and vault filled with powerful artifacts. Feels like people are obsessing too much over shinies and not considering things like serious consequences.

So you are pretty much advocating getting something extremely situational that we may not even end up using instead of other features we are far more likely to use. Especially if shit hits the fan.

Besides that raising our skill would only lower the DCs for smiting which may not even be that crucial if we are sacrificing something to boost forging.

So it's pretty much useless for anything intrigue related outside of sneaking/hiding which we don't even actually do much of. I reiterate, it's a waste compared to all the other features we can get that we are far more likely to actually use.
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We don't do it because our stat was crap. In the early days we attempted to get to Nornheim and failed. Thor knows the value of sneaking around and boosted his intrigue. I would rather not close off one of our options just in case or because you feel scared of doing anything risky.
When you were arguing for the forge your excuse was anything could happen and our rule could be longer. All those excuses would apply to this especially as a back up just in case we have to run from some one or evade someone's sight. Thor being the closest case and Osmond being the case in this situation. Osmond caught us and decided to tag along.
 
Darkcore41 said:
We don't do it because our stat was crap. In the early days we attempted to get to Nornheim and failed. Thor knows the value of sneaking around and boosted his intrigue. I would rather not close off one of our options just in case or because you feel scared of doing anything risky.
When you were arguing for the forge your excuse was anything could happen and our rule could be longer. All those excuses would apply to this especially as a back up just in case we have to run from some one or evade someone's sight. Thor being the closest case and Osmond being the case in this situation. Osmond caught us and decided to tag along.
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That would have made for a better argument if the suit also helped with things like intrigue besides sneaking. As is it only does sneaking/hiding which we don't really do and would be better off left to an actual intrigue hero. There is a reason I keep citing that we should just get people who are good at certain things to help us like with Egil and his dark magic mastery or pointing out at Osmond with his science skill. I mean the only example you used was sneaking into Odin's library which as I pointed out was a bad idea and wasn't really necessary which seems to imply that you may not have many examples beyond that.

With forging I was always advocating and as I pointed out the only magical forge around is Nidaveller which we have repeatedly been denied access to. Instead of just trying to sneak into Nidaveller I suggested just making our own forges.

So yeah, if the suit had other things going for it in regards to intrigue instead of sneaking and hiding I wouldn't have seen much issue with picking it. As is I am not seeing the point in picking something so specialized that we are probably extremely unlikely to use compared to all the other options.
 
Red Bovine said:
That would have made for a better argument if the suit also helped with things like intrigue besides sneaking. As is it only does sneaking/hiding which we don't really do and would be better off left to an actual intrigue hero. There is a reason I keep citing that we should just get people who are good at certain things to help us like with Egil and his dark magic mastery or pointing out at Osmond with his science skill. I mean the only example you used was sneaking into Odin's library which as I pointed out was a bad idea and wasn't really necessary which seems to imply that you may not have many examples beyond that.

With forging I was always advocating and as I pointed out the only magical forge around is Nidaveller which we have repeatedly been denied access to. Instead of just trying to sneak into Nidaveller I suggested just making our own forges.

So yeah, if the suit had other things going for it in regards to intrigue instead of sneaking and hiding I wouldn't have seen much issue with picking it. As is I am not seeing the point in picking something so specialized that we are probably extremely unlikely to use compared to all the other options.
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To be fair, we do occasionally need intrigue, like a boost in intrigue may have saved those poor unfortunate thieves.

Well we haven't tried asking Amora if we could tbf

Don't discredit it entirely, a sneak suit can still be useful, it's just currently we don't need it.

@KnowledgeKing the next time we improve the suit will speed include flight speed?
 
So what do you all think the darkness in the prophecy is? The only thing that comes to my mind is Gorr the god butcher and the dark elves.
 
MRoy said:
So what do you all think the darkness in the prophecy is? The only thing that comes to my mind is Gorr the god butcher and the dark elves.
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The thing is the MCU combined his powers with Hela and gave her the back story of Odin's brother Bor.
We should finish hidden history to see if Heaven and Angela exists. Kinda wanna visit heavens blacksmiths.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Black King on Jan 16, 2020 at 9:42 AM, finished with 93 posts and 12 votes.
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MRoy said:
They are pretty weak though
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Are they weak or are we just stupidly strong? Loki is after all a super Jotun with legendary skills in H2H combat. Besides that it wouldn't hurt to start making it a habit of beating the shit out of people that challenge us and putting them under us since that may help get the Jotun's respect.
 
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