Away from how to address thanos for the moment.

Can we at least agree that Thor needs to be put in his place? (He's going to trigger the war while we are still in a position to suffer horrible casualties from it with his idiocy, probably not extinction even if we lose a war given thanos's half pop retoric but...)

I suggest 1 of 3 main options.

1-We call a ministerial meeting and try Thor for his witless inananity (if we win he loses princeship till he gets his head out of his rear or Odin wakes up and chooses to reinstate Thor. Given how Odin acted upon finding out about Thor's actions in Thor 1 I doubt he will be 2 angry with us (once we point out how the idiot nearly Kickstarter the war while we are still in buildup and gravely weakened))

2-We try to wake Odin or Frigga up from their poison coma's/ Odinsleep for Odin. If we can wake one of them up a they can help rein in point break. (Odin would be ideal as he would explain our actions to Thor and force him to confront the fact Thor nearly ruined all our work to get even by jumping the gun).

3-We say screw it and have the dwarfs place a binding enchanted on the hammer restricting it's usage to only those "worthy of the power of Thor" (basically magical giant dwarfs curse his/Bela's old hammer and banish him to earth to learn humility (depending on rolls this can be done in secret with his exact location hidden as "left as argued with brother" up to "nearly set off war early and screwed us over so placing him in timeout box to think over his actions".
We can't punish him without public backlash and we aren't powerful enough to bind him. Frigga is waking up next turn and Odin won't be waking up so we can't wait for him. Also why would the dwarfs help the regent against the crown prince?
 
We can't punish him without public backlash and we aren't powerful enough to bind him. Frigga is waking up next turn and Odin won't be waking up so we can't wait for him. Also why would the dwarfs help the regent against the crown prince?
Because they don't want a war. The entire reason they are an ally of Asgard is for protection...
 
We can't punish him without public backlash and we aren't powerful enough to bind him. Frigga is waking up next turn and Odin won't be waking up so we can't wait for him. Also why would the dwarfs help the regent against the crown prince?

Well it's either wait till Frigga wakes, publicly punish Thor, or daggers in the dark (NOT RECOMMEND)

That and we have a protection pact with the dwarfs. If we are at war that goes down the drain as we will be busy fighting the war and the dwarfs become a target as they supply us.

Couple that with Thor acting more like Hela atm with his actions (who the dwarfs probably remember... In a poor light) I suspect we could get them to place a restriction/activate restriction enchants imbeded in the hammer (wouldn't be surprised if they added those following Hela so the next wielder could be stopped more easily if they were a monster).

None of the mess is in the dwarfs interest so if they had sense they would aid us (as otherwise their guards go away to war and those they are at war with eye the stellar forge as a enemy base for Asgard ties. Thor's war mongering is BAD for them)
 
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Well it's either wait till Frigga wakes, publicly punish Thor, or daggers in the dark (NOT RECOMMEND)

That and we have a protection pact with the dwarfs. If we are at war that goes down the drain as we will be busy fighting the war and the dwarfs become a target as they supply us.

Couple that with Thor acting more like Hela atm with his actions (who the dwarfs probably remember... In a poor light) I suspect we could get them to place a restriction/activate restriction enchants imbeded in the hammer (wouldn't be surprised if they added those following Hela so the next wielder could be stopped more easily if they were a monster).

None of the mess is in the dwarfs interest so if they had sense they would aid us (as otherwise their guards go away to war and those they are at war with eye the stellar forge as a enemy base for Asgard ties. Thor's war mongering is BAD for them)
The problem with your thought process is Thor is only attacking military installations and attacking in vengeance not like Hela. So that's a false equivalency and he is the crown prince where Loki doesn't have legitimatize. With Frigga we have no idea who she will support considering she just went through a tramatic incident.

@KnowledgeKing can we have Osmand hack and destroy Titans computers? Steal information while destroying their internet.

Also can we hire mercenaries to harass Titan?
Can we pay off /trick other governments in to attacking Titan?
 
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The problem with your thought process is Thor is only attacking military installations and attacking in vengeance not like Hela. So that's a false equivalency and he is the crown prince where Loki doesn't have legitimatize. With Frigga we have no idea who she will support considering she just went through a tramatic incident.

@KnowledgeKing can we have Osmand hack and destroy Titans computers? Steal information while destroying their internet.

Also can we hire mercenaries to harass Titan?
Can we pay off /trick other governments in to attacking Titan?
For someone that really wants to destroy Titan you're doing it in a way that's very obvious and not very effective it be much better to save up for one big surgical strike rather than doing you know 10 random inane things
 
For someone that really wants to destroy Titan you're doing it in a way that's very obvious and not very effective it be much better to save up for one big surgical strike rather than doing you know 10 random inane things
The reason for the inane things as you call it is to interrupt Thanos's preparations. As we prepare he is also preparing and we want to disrupt as much as possible so we can come in with our hammer.

You should play Civilization or chess, you don't skip to checkmate turn one.
 
...how does that work exactly? Standards throughout the galaxy are different, are we on par with Titan or on Par with Sakar? Two very different things and yet we are apparently both at the same time.
Means you're average.
@KnowledgeKing can we have Osmand hack and destroy Titans computers? Steal information while destroying their internet.

Also can we hire mercenaries to harass Titan?
Can we pay off /trick other governments in to attacking Titan?
You can attempt any and all of these.
 
either we should apologize formThor and keep up the sanctions or don't apologize and lower sanctions.

It is reciprocity- Thanos attacked Asgard without warning or reason. Now that Thor has done the same the sanctions can be removed. Or not.

Honestly, I am the one who advised destroying Titan so I don't think that letting up from an enemy that attacked Asgard with no warning and is threatening to do so again should be allowed to exist.

But, if you want to ease up on the largest threat to Asgard, might as well do so in a way that shows that it is out of respect between kings rather than fear.
 
either we should apologize formThor and keep up the sanctions or don't apologize and lower sanctions.

It is reciprocity- Thanos attacked Asgard without warning or reason. Now that Thor has done the same the sanctions can be removed. Or not.

Honestly, I am the one who advised destroying Titan so I don't think that letting up from an enemy that attacked Asgard with no warning and is threatening to do so again should be allowed to exist.

But, if you want to ease up on the largest threat to Asgard, might as well do so in a way that shows that it is out of respect between kings rather than fear.
I agree that we should go all in one way or another and I choose to go all in on condeming Thanos. There is no half way with Thanos because he has problems with population. He needs those sanctions gone or he is back to where he started so repealing it half way won't work and only make us look bad domestic and foreign.
 
Okay well, after this I think we need to start discussing war procedures.

Despite making the write in myself I'm not hopeful enough for it to work. Our biggest advantage is that Thanos can't do anything really to Loki, not so long as there's no second in command to PF. Its unlikely Thanos will take this retort sitting down and might feel he needs to instill a lesson. If he can't make us bow physically we already know he's willing to harm our loved ones and he also holds the mind stone.

We should secure Odin and Frigga and place them in a more secure and secret location. We also need lookouts and scryers up now more than ever. We need to have a discussion with Thor, divided we fall, combined we conquer.

We also double on the Roc option. Just incase this is the last time we see him, I don't want thinking we never cared.
 
We need to remember our sanctions are affecting titans Interplanetery relation if he tries something we call for a coalition. The sanctions are to bait him into showing his hand early
 
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Hoping that Thanos doesn't take us not apologizing for Thor's actions, because we didn't approve it and can't promise that Thor won't just do something stupid later on, as support since I'm pretty sure that the consensus is that a majority of players are not in fact in support of Thor's actions and several even annoyed with him over them.
 
We should have Osmond and some of our heros create an armor for Thor. One with defensive magic, especially against mental magic, a Jarvis installed for a intrigue boost, and mechanical enhancement. Loki uses binding to taper Thor's recklessness and points him towards Thanos. This will either kill or cripple Thanos while removing the risk of brainwashed or captured Thor. If it doesn't work it at least weakens Titan militarily and disrupts Thanos's build up.
 
Hoping that Thanos doesn't take us not apologizing for Thor's actions, because we didn't approve it and can't promise that Thor won't just do something stupid later on, as support since I'm pretty sure that the consensus is that a majority of players are not in fact in support of Thor's actions and several even annoyed with him over them.
*Sigh* agreed

We should have Osmond and some of our heros create an armor for Thor. One with defensive magic, especially against mental magic, a Jarvis installed for a intrigue boost, and mechanical enhancement. Loki uses binding to taper Thor's recklessness and points him towards Thanos. This will either kill or cripple Thanos while removing the risk of brainwashed or captured Thor. If it doesn't work it at least weakens Titan militarily and disrupts Thanos's build up.
FK no, we don't even know when Thor will return. We need to cover the whole planet with a Tesseract shield. (If there is a chance QM has a surprise stored for us.)
 
*Sigh* agreed


FK no, we don't even know when Thor will return. We need to cover the whole planet with a Tesseract shield. (If there is a chance QM has a surprise stored for us.)
While we are defending we also need to disrupt Thanos's operations or he will build up without any opposition. Also he may might take Thor hostage or brainwash him making those shields useless.
 
FK no, we don't even know when Thor will return. We need to cover the whole planet with a Tesseract shield. (If there is a chance QM has a surprise stored for us.)
Honestly trusting Thor with even more power seems like a colossal mistake. As mentioned he's been nothing but completely difficult, reckless, unwilling to compromise or think of the big picture and has been very disrespectful towards Loki himself despite being Temporary King/regent. It just seems like it is rewarding him for his negative behavior which I definitely don't think we should be encouraging in the slightest. Also don't trust Thor to not to find a way to fuck things up somehow.

Hoping that Frigga waking up this turn would be able to calm him down.
 
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Thor escaped. So unless QM missed something in the last update or Thanos lied. No one knows where Thor is.
Thor will return to Asgard, he somehow knew we got married. I think his friends can contact him somehow. We build this armor for him to disrupt Thanos while we build up. Even if Thor doesn't get the armor Loki can use it and Osmand can mass produce the mechanical components

Edit: @Red Bovine were you not reading the part of using binding magic to bind him to promises?

@KnowledgeKing Does anyone including Thor's friends know where he is?
 
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Honestly trusting Thor with even more power seems like a colossal mistake. As mentioned he's been nothing but completely difficult, reckless, unwilling to compromise or think of the big picture and has been very disrespectful of Loki himself despite being Temporary King/regent. It just seems like it is rewarding him for his negative behavior which I definitely don't think we should be encouraging in the slightest. Also don't trust Thor to not to find a way to fuck things up somehow.

Hoping that Frigga waking up this turn would be able to calm him down.
I agree man.
 
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