LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)
- Thread starter Black King
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- Bulgaria
Going over the information list and I'm amazed that Loki now has one of the lowest known Learning stats.
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- England
I suggest working on deciphering the tablet of life and death- Worst case scenario it may give us information on how to temporarily control hela (given how odins near death and the wards are tied to his lifeforce we may have to deal with her trying to break free again... (without Valkyrie to punt her back in her cage). In the instance that the tablet is reffering to the cannonical stuff it does then it may give us the means to empower ourselves with the lifeline serum (which may put us at a high enough level to at least fight off thanos if he returns...)
As for restricted stuff- I suggest restricting research on the tesseract. Researching infinity stones is typically a BAD idea (last time someone tried in MCU (unknowningly) it lead to a genocidal AI who tried to perform a repeat of the dinoslaughtering meteor impact of the ancient past). Not to mention the risk of thanos returning if he knew we also had a second stone here.
As for restricted stuff- I suggest restricting research on the tesseract. Researching infinity stones is typically a BAD idea (last time someone tried in MCU (unknowningly) it lead to a genocidal AI who tried to perform a repeat of the dinoslaughtering meteor impact of the ancient past). Not to mention the risk of thanos returning if he knew we also had a second stone here.
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- Hala
[X] Yes, Osmond can run tests.
-[x] Only Tablet of Life and Death and under supervision.
Tesseract sucks energy from the vacuum of the space and convert it into a usable form.
While Infinity energy is good. One bad roll would be enough to say bye bye to a part of Asgard.
Edit: in the end it all depends on the roll.
-[x] Only Tablet of Life and Death and under supervision.
Tesseract sucks energy from the vacuum of the space and convert it into a usable form.
While Infinity energy is good. One bad roll would be enough to say bye bye to a part of Asgard.
Edit: in the end it all depends on the roll.
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- United states
Should note that there were a number of experiments of run with the Stones and they actually usually turn out well and even beneficial. Ultron is pretty much the exception and even then Vision was also created using the same stone and ended being pretty heroic, enough to lift freaking Mjonir. So while there is potentially some risk the said could be said on a number of things and the Tesseract canon wise actually has the best track record for ending up on the positive benefits.
As for Thanos finding out about it doubt it. It's not like we are going to just advertise secrets after all.
The tablet gives a super soldier serum and is scientific. Osmand is also in to biology, so the tablet is what he wants the most.
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- Fifth Dimension
Yes
You can enchant tech. That's the closest you can get.
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- Space
[X] Mind Magic (2)
[X] Healing (2)
[X] Defensive (2)
[X] Teleportation (1)
[X] Authorization Systems (And Clearance Levels) (1)
[X] Weapon Guidance Systems for Turrets (1)
[X] EMP shielding (3)
[X] Sure, see what Thanos wanted
[X] Yes, Osmond can run tests, but only on one item at a time while the rest are in the vault for protection.
[X] Healing (2)
[X] Defensive (2)
[X] Teleportation (1)
[X] Authorization Systems (And Clearance Levels) (1)
[X] Weapon Guidance Systems for Turrets (1)
[X] EMP shielding (3)
[X] Sure, see what Thanos wanted
[X] Yes, Osmond can run tests, but only on one item at a time while the rest are in the vault for protection.
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- Pee Pee Poo Poo
A bad roll can turn anything into a disaster, so I dont get why you want to limit osmond and learn more about the artifacts
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- United states
So one of the Omake ideas I have is Amora becoming a bit of minor celebrity thanks to the rise of 'television' from the implementation of tech along with the rise of news networks. Basically the idea is that some of the first news stations of Asgard wants to learn more about what Loki is doing including the implementation of more widespread use of magic. News station's would contact Amora due to her becoming the head mage of Asgard. Amora thanks to her beauty, intelligence, knowledge of magic, position and 'mystery' thanks to her past leads to her getting a minor following of admirers/fans. Especially those interested in magic.
I got the idea when people mentioned try to get Amora to find other ways to satify her need for adulation from people. Also had an idea for a sort of 'news' bit where omakes would focus on POV from the citizens of Asgard in regards to some of the things going on throughout the quest. Was also considering having some of the hero units get interviewed from news sources.
What do people think of this idea? Would like feed back before starting.
I got the idea when people mentioned try to get Amora to find other ways to satify her need for adulation from people. Also had an idea for a sort of 'news' bit where omakes would focus on POV from the citizens of Asgard in regards to some of the things going on throughout the quest. Was also considering having some of the hero units get interviewed from news sources.
What do people think of this idea? Would like feed back before starting.
I take it that we would need to raise our skill in magic forging and/or gain the technology skill to unlock magi tech?
- Location
- Bulgaria
[X] Mind Magic (2)
[X] Healing (2)
[X] Defensive (2)
[X] Teleportation (1)
[X] Authorization Systems (And Clearance Levels) (1)
[X] Weapon Guidance Systems for Turrets (1)
[X] EMP shielding (3)
[X] Sure, see what Thanos wanted
[X] Yes, Osmond can run tests, but only on one item at a time while the rest are in the vault for protection.
You know, I've been trying to get into Thanos's head and I think I sort-of understand his crazy perspective on things.
First of all, our success this turn will just further convince him that he was right about everything.
It's because of him, that Loki is now acting King. And in just 5 years, Asgard is not only near full recovery from the attack, but it has underwent a technological revolution, it's army is stronger than ever, highly competent in magic (whereas before the populace looked down on this power and resource).
Hell, this was probably one of the outcomes he expected.
After all, he was the first outsider to recognize Loki's potential and the only one to push him to his limit. Before he attacked, Asgardians looked down on Loki.
As far as Thanos is concerned, he saved Asgard form stagnation and pushed Loki to realize his full potential and force prosperity. Just as he did to Titan. And they can do so much more.
Loki is just too blind to see the full picture, just like the fools on Titan couldn't see.
What do you guys think?
[X] Healing (2)
[X] Defensive (2)
[X] Teleportation (1)
[X] Authorization Systems (And Clearance Levels) (1)
[X] Weapon Guidance Systems for Turrets (1)
[X] EMP shielding (3)
[X] Sure, see what Thanos wanted
[X] Yes, Osmond can run tests, but only on one item at a time while the rest are in the vault for protection.
You know, I've been trying to get into Thanos's head and I think I sort-of understand his crazy perspective on things.
First of all, our success this turn will just further convince him that he was right about everything.
It's because of him, that Loki is now acting King. And in just 5 years, Asgard is not only near full recovery from the attack, but it has underwent a technological revolution, it's army is stronger than ever, highly competent in magic (whereas before the populace looked down on this power and resource).
Hell, this was probably one of the outcomes he expected.
After all, he was the first outsider to recognize Loki's potential and the only one to push him to his limit. Before he attacked, Asgardians looked down on Loki.
As far as Thanos is concerned, he saved Asgard form stagnation and pushed Loki to realize his full potential and force prosperity. Just as he did to Titan. And they can do so much more.
Loki is just too blind to see the full picture, just like the fools on Titan couldn't see.
What do you guys think?
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- United states
The issue is that some of the artifacts are things that we probably shouldn't poke like the tuning fork. Another issue is that Osmond doesn't really have any magic knowledge whatsoever making it an even bigger risk. Hence why it seems that we should limit his research into things that re at least the least seemingly dangerous and that he could actually understand to a degree.
The cube was described as radiation not magic in story. Let him study it and the tablet for the super soldier program. He could also teach Loki how to use it or make weapons, hyper drives using it. Remember Mar'vel was able to make a hyper space engine and Hydra was able to make guns.
I just realized the soldiers are half as good in magic as Loki. We really need to fix that asap or Lokis going to look bad.
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- Bulgaria
Yeah, and they reached that level in only 5 years. Thousands of them.
Sena Kumo
The Tenth Wandering Cloud
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- Portugal
Actually, they didn't look down on him, they just found him excentric. Besides the very few that personally knew of what he could really do, the population knew of his capacity with Laws and Finance (or at least a part of it) to recognise he was good at it.
Thanos didn't have a problem with Asgard really looking up to us, he had a problem with Asgard not looking up enough, beffiting of our genius.
P.S: 2 more pages for our next bonus. Yay!
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- Bulgaria
Sort of yeah, they realized he had talents, but I got the impression they saw him almost like a Raymond-like figure. Smart, but weird and he doesn't really do much with his talents. According to the GM, they thought he spends most his time in the castle with his pet Roc (which they also found weird). And Loki seemed largely content with it.
Thanos just pushed them out of their comfort zone and look how well they're doing now...
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That said, I'm not sure what he actually hoped to gain from this, long term. I just suspect this is how he'll rationalize it.
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- Midwest US
Seems legit.
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- Pee Pee Poo Poo
I think its boring tbh, I don't see the problem, Osmond already noticed Lokis abnormality and he's a close friend, so whats the problen. We want Osmond to make magitech but wont give him a chance to actually learn.
Thanos pushed Loki out of his comfort zone and look at him now? King of Asgard, nice guy that Thanos gent
Sena Kumo
The Tenth Wandering Cloud
- Location
- Portugal
What do you wanted them to think? We barely interacted with crowds so obviously they won't know much except if we were being spied. And outside of work we probably DO stay at the palace most of the time.
I am so happy for his consideration I would kill. I'm sure Thor and the entirely of Asgard feels the same.
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- Bulgaria
Yeah, Loki is being really unreasonable over this whole, brain killing his dad and mutilating his mom thing.
No, I get why they thought that. It makes sense.
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@KnowledgeKing If Loki trains with the troops will he have a chance to gain martial?
If Loki trains with them in magic does he also have a chance to gain some?
Can we get an action that allows Loki to test his friends to know what they can do?
Can we get an action to refine military, and naval doctrine?
How long do we have until the other Realms takes Lokis silence as weakness or disrespect?
Can we get an action to refine Asgards disaster response/evacuation protocols?
If Loki trains with them in magic does he also have a chance to gain some?
Can we get an action that allows Loki to test his friends to know what they can do?
Can we get an action to refine military, and naval doctrine?
How long do we have until the other Realms takes Lokis silence as weakness or disrespect?
Can we get an action to refine Asgards disaster response/evacuation protocols?
No. Bad. Go away, this is cool kids discussion.