Sena Kumo
The Tenth Wandering Cloud
- Location
- Portugal
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LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)
- Thread starter Black King
- Start date
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
As I said SV dice either go high or low, you certainly got the high block. And please lets not relate what dice get rolled beside a plan with the success of the plan. Its humorous but not prescriptive.
Sena Kumo
The Tenth Wandering Cloud
- Location
- Portugal
I am being humorous...
I think @Nystical suggested another dice website where you could post photos from, can you switch to that? @KnowledgeKing
- Location
- United Kingdom
HOLY OVER REACTION BATMAN thor did NOT scalp Amaura, he cut her hair, this aint abuser in training, this is DUMB ASS KID SHIT, like if you don't seem to grasp that kids do ill thought out stupid shit, you do not understand children
- Location
- Fifth Dimension
Yes. Amora's parents and Odin and Frigga and Heimdall know.
No it doesn't lower other physical actions.
Not really no. It just allows more actions for Class.
That's gone now.
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- Location
- United states
Yeah, Thor just cut a girls hair, not scalp her. Kids do stupid stuff like that all the time.
- Location
- USA
He asked if it does and you said "yes but it doesn't?"
Could you clarify your answer please?
- Location
- Fifth Dimension
Misread it
[] Setup and Safety V2
Martial:
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[] Train: The expectations haven't changed
- [] Swords, DC 30
Frigga knows the blade so she can teach us later, and we aren't planning to be a general or squad leader so the mental aspects are unnecessary.
Diplomacy:
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- [] Bring a present to the instructor or trainer, it couldn't hurt to have them like you more. DC 12
Using a low DC action to build up to getting friends.
Stewardship:
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- [] Try to observe how Father ran the kingdom. Even if you couldn't sit in on meetings... DC 55
Trying to fix the situation with Odin and get stewardship bonus from learning it from a named character.
Intrigue:
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- [] Pull pranks on Thor. Those were always fun, and he never saw them coming! DC 15
Don't like pranking Thor, but it is a low DC action.
Learning:
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-[] Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
Low DC action that will help with other learning activities.
Personal:
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-[] There was...something in you. You could feel it. Try to tap into that. DC, ??
This is the only way to learn magic, can't learn it from books.
Martial:
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[] Train: The expectations haven't changed
- [] Swords, DC 30
Frigga knows the blade so she can teach us later, and we aren't planning to be a general or squad leader so the mental aspects are unnecessary.
Diplomacy:
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- [] Bring a present to the instructor or trainer, it couldn't hurt to have them like you more. DC 12
Using a low DC action to build up to getting friends.
Stewardship:
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- [] Try to observe how Father ran the kingdom. Even if you couldn't sit in on meetings... DC 55
Trying to fix the situation with Odin and get stewardship bonus from learning it from a named character.
Intrigue:
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- [] Pull pranks on Thor. Those were always fun, and he never saw them coming! DC 15
Don't like pranking Thor, but it is a low DC action.
Learning:
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-[] Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
Low DC action that will help with other learning activities.
Personal:
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-[] There was...something in you. You could feel it. Try to tap into that. DC, ??
This is the only way to learn magic, can't learn it from books.
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
Thor forcibly cut her hair. This wasn't some cutesy "oh can you be my hairdresser" thing, this was Thor having fun at the expense of someone weaker by doing something to their body against their will.
Excusing it with "oh it's just kids" is dangerous. Kids do stupid shit, it's the job of adults to explain why some of the stupid shit they do is wrong and that it's not something they should do.
"Boys will be boys" is an incredibly dangerous thought process, and I will adamantly oppose any plan that reinforces that kind of toxic thinking.
- Location
- United Kingdom
so knight is proving that he just does not understand how stupid kids can be
*Edit* also he's acting like frigga wont tell him why he can't and shouldn't ever do that again, but thats par for the course with this thread
*Edit* also he's acting like frigga wont tell him why he can't and shouldn't ever do that again, but thats par for the course with this thread
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Train: The expectations haven't changed
- Swords, DC 30 (76%)
- Hand to Hand, DC 35 (71%)
- Ranged Weaponry (Projectiles), DC 45 (61%)
- With your mother, DC 40 Intrigue, DC 15 Martial (61.88%)
- With the All-Father, DC 60 intrigue, DC 40 Martial (31.68%)
Fight: Some say the best way to learn is to do.
- With Thor, DC 40 (66%)
- Get a rematch with Megathor! You weren't ready last time! Seriously! DC ???
- Challenge Sif, DC 25 (81%)
Study: So you could be a great tactician instead? A general even.
- War, DC 25 (81%)
- Tactics, DC 20 (86%)
- Strategy, DC 20 (86%)
- Biology, DC 40 (66%)
Exercise, increase your strength, speed, and stamina, DC 35 (71%)
Convince Your Mother that you didn't NEED lessons from the instruction, but from her instead. DC 55 (52%)
Make friends during your lessons...and during training! DC 30 (77%)
Bring a present to the instructor or trainer, it couldn't hurt to have them like you more. DC 12 (95%)
Try to get closer to Father. He always seems to like Thor more, and it's not fair. DC 50 (57%)
Heimdall was always watching you...maybe try to be friends with the old guardian? DC 70 (37%)
Hang out with Thor! He seems annoyed by you, but maybe you could change that? DC 50 (57%)
Request Lessons from the Instructor on finance and how to run the kingdom. Surely he'd listen! DC 50 (57%)
Observe monetary transactons from the commonfolk (can only be taken with the Intrigue action: Sneak off into Asgard) DC 30 (44.66%)
Try to observe how Father ran the kingdom. Even if you couldn't sit in on meetings... DC 55 (52%)
Observe how the kingdom was ran in secret (can only be taken with the Intrigue action: Eavesdrop on the Allfather's important meetings.) DC 30 (29.26%)
Ask Mother for more financial responsibility. Maybe you could run a small business? DC 65 (42%)
Pull pranks on Thor. Those were always fun, and he never saw them coming! DC 15 (93%)
Try to hide from the instructors whenever they came looking for you. You didn't need nor want to go to class! DC 45 (63%)
Eavesdrop on the Allfather's important meetings. Maybe you could learn something...intriguing. DC 70 (38%)
Sneak off into Asgard, amongst the commonfolk. See what it was like to not be a Prince for once. DC 50 (58%)
Go one further and sneak out of Asgard and into Midgard, home of the mortals! DC 90 (18%)
There was something bothering you...something about you, Mother, and Father... DC 100 (8%)
Visit the Library, you've heard so much about all of the different books! So much opportunity, so little time...
- Continue Learning what you touched on last time. DC 40 (68%)
- Learn something new. DC 20 (88%)
Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15 (93%)
You learn best from only the best. As such you were homeschooled by your Mother. Try to learn from her (contingent on Convince Your Mother... action in Diplomacy) DC 10 (50.96%)
Self-Learn - Try to teach yourself. You didn't need an instructor! DC 50 (58%)
- Swords, DC 30 (76%)
- Hand to Hand, DC 35 (71%)
- Ranged Weaponry (Projectiles), DC 45 (61%)
- With your mother, DC 40 Intrigue, DC 15 Martial (61.88%)
- With the All-Father, DC 60 intrigue, DC 40 Martial (31.68%)
Fight: Some say the best way to learn is to do.
- With Thor, DC 40 (66%)
- Get a rematch with Megathor! You weren't ready last time! Seriously! DC ???
- Challenge Sif, DC 25 (81%)
Study: So you could be a great tactician instead? A general even.
- War, DC 25 (81%)
- Tactics, DC 20 (86%)
- Strategy, DC 20 (86%)
- Biology, DC 40 (66%)
Exercise, increase your strength, speed, and stamina, DC 35 (71%)
Convince Your Mother that you didn't NEED lessons from the instruction, but from her instead. DC 55 (52%)
Make friends during your lessons...and during training! DC 30 (77%)
Bring a present to the instructor or trainer, it couldn't hurt to have them like you more. DC 12 (95%)
Try to get closer to Father. He always seems to like Thor more, and it's not fair. DC 50 (57%)
Heimdall was always watching you...maybe try to be friends with the old guardian? DC 70 (37%)
Hang out with Thor! He seems annoyed by you, but maybe you could change that? DC 50 (57%)
Request Lessons from the Instructor on finance and how to run the kingdom. Surely he'd listen! DC 50 (57%)
Observe monetary transactons from the commonfolk (can only be taken with the Intrigue action: Sneak off into Asgard) DC 30 (44.66%)
Try to observe how Father ran the kingdom. Even if you couldn't sit in on meetings... DC 55 (52%)
Observe how the kingdom was ran in secret (can only be taken with the Intrigue action: Eavesdrop on the Allfather's important meetings.) DC 30 (29.26%)
Ask Mother for more financial responsibility. Maybe you could run a small business? DC 65 (42%)
Pull pranks on Thor. Those were always fun, and he never saw them coming! DC 15 (93%)
Try to hide from the instructors whenever they came looking for you. You didn't need nor want to go to class! DC 45 (63%)
Eavesdrop on the Allfather's important meetings. Maybe you could learn something...intriguing. DC 70 (38%)
Sneak off into Asgard, amongst the commonfolk. See what it was like to not be a Prince for once. DC 50 (58%)
Go one further and sneak out of Asgard and into Midgard, home of the mortals! DC 90 (18%)
There was something bothering you...something about you, Mother, and Father... DC 100 (8%)
Visit the Library, you've heard so much about all of the different books! So much opportunity, so little time...
- Continue Learning what you touched on last time. DC 40 (68%)
- Learn something new. DC 20 (88%)
Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15 (93%)
You learn best from only the best. As such you were homeschooled by your Mother. Try to learn from her (contingent on Convince Your Mother... action in Diplomacy) DC 10 (50.96%)
Self-Learn - Try to teach yourself. You didn't need an instructor! DC 50 (58%)
Was originally going to color code the likelihood but I'm lazy, and dropped the brackets so that there should be no chance anyone tries to copy-paste these lines for their plans.
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KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
Alright, having vented my spleen about Thor, Bully Supreme, I shall formulate a plan.
[] Plan Asgardian Foundation, Round 3.0
-[] Martial: Train: Hand to Hand, DC 35
-[] Diplomacy: Make friends during your lessons...and during training! DC 30
-[] Stewardship: Observe monetary transactions from the common folk (can only be taken with the Intrigue action: Sneak off into Asgard) DC 30
-[] Intrigue: Sneak off into Asgard, among the common folk. See what it was like to not be a Prince for once. DC 50
-[] Learning: Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
-[] Personal: Relationships: Spend time with some of your favorite people in the world! (Mother)
Reasoning:
-I would like to try H2H one more time before leaving it be (if we fail) for a few turns. I still hold to the same reasons I think it's a valuable skill to gain, and a good foundation for us. Learning to move properly seems better at our age. I'd like to start investing in Exercise in a couple more turns (around Age 10 or so).
-I'm willing to change the Diplomacy option, but I still think making friends, actual friends, is a good and valuable skill here.
-I think seeing non-kingdom-level financial transactions would give us valuable context for understanding finance better. Thus this action plus the intrigue action. Also, the practice of trying to sneak out among the people seems like good sneaky-sneak practice.
-I want to back off on doing deep-dives in the Library for a turn and try to build up basic/foundational educational knowledge. Also the DC is low which is nice.
-Thor is an abusive jackass and our Dad's mad at us right now and also distant for reasons we don't understand. Our Mother is the one who expresses actual unconditional familial love, and i think right now we need the combination of "love, support, and encouragement" and "okay time to stop moping and get up and be the man I know you can" that Frigga will give us.
[] Plan Asgardian Foundation, Round 3.0
-[] Martial: Train: Hand to Hand, DC 35
-[] Diplomacy: Make friends during your lessons...and during training! DC 30
-[] Stewardship: Observe monetary transactions from the common folk (can only be taken with the Intrigue action: Sneak off into Asgard) DC 30
-[] Intrigue: Sneak off into Asgard, among the common folk. See what it was like to not be a Prince for once. DC 50
-[] Learning: Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
-[] Personal: Relationships: Spend time with some of your favorite people in the world! (Mother)
Reasoning:
-I would like to try H2H one more time before leaving it be (if we fail) for a few turns. I still hold to the same reasons I think it's a valuable skill to gain, and a good foundation for us. Learning to move properly seems better at our age. I'd like to start investing in Exercise in a couple more turns (around Age 10 or so).
-I'm willing to change the Diplomacy option, but I still think making friends, actual friends, is a good and valuable skill here.
-I think seeing non-kingdom-level financial transactions would give us valuable context for understanding finance better. Thus this action plus the intrigue action. Also, the practice of trying to sneak out among the people seems like good sneaky-sneak practice.
-I want to back off on doing deep-dives in the Library for a turn and try to build up basic/foundational educational knowledge. Also the DC is low which is nice.
-Thor is an abusive jackass and our Dad's mad at us right now and also distant for reasons we don't understand. Our Mother is the one who expresses actual unconditional familial love, and i think right now we need the combination of "love, support, and encouragement" and "okay time to stop moping and get up and be the man I know you can" that Frigga will give us.
I don't think kids do that or properly parented kids anyway. I never did anyrhing like that when I was little and my brother didn't, we just knew that wasn't acceptable behavior because mom was strict and we were thought that from young. I think a strict parent wouldn't produce someone that would do that period.
Sena Kumo
The Tenth Wandering Cloud
- Location
- Portugal
And Kids from a Superpowered alien (for Earth) Kingdom where some rules and laws are from the 9th century and Men rule?
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Does men really rule because Frigga wipes Odin like a dog in private, maybe they just don't rule in public. All she got to do is say your sleeping on the coach tonight and it is over.
Edit: anyway if your going to use the age and culture card then no one has the right to say a kid does not do that on any of the actions.
- Location
- USA
Two hours are up.
[X] Plan: Low DC Loki
-[x] Study: So you could be a great tactician instead? A general even.
--[x] Strategy, DC 20
Willing to swap this, but its the lowest DC right now. And could be an alternative option if training continues failing, to lead from the war room.
-[x] Bring a present to the instructor or trainer, it couldn't hurt to have them like you more. DC 12
-[x] Request Lessons from the Instructor on finance and how to run the kingdom. Surely he'd listen! DC 50
-[x] Pull pranks on Thor. Those were always fun, and he never saw them coming! DC 15
-[x] Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
-[x] Ask a question: Ask Frigga why Thor, Odin, and every person on the <classmate list> do not like you.
Let's address Loki's loneliness before it becomes a negative trait like Baby Brother.
[X] Plan: Low DC Loki
-[x] Study: So you could be a great tactician instead? A general even.
--[x] Strategy, DC 20
Willing to swap this, but its the lowest DC right now. And could be an alternative option if training continues failing, to lead from the war room.
-[x] Bring a present to the instructor or trainer, it couldn't hurt to have them like you more. DC 12
-[x] Request Lessons from the Instructor on finance and how to run the kingdom. Surely he'd listen! DC 50
-[x] Pull pranks on Thor. Those were always fun, and he never saw them coming! DC 15
-[x] Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
-[x] Ask a question: Ask Frigga why Thor, Odin, and every person on the <classmate list> do not like you.
Let's address Loki's loneliness before it becomes a negative trait like Baby Brother.
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KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
[X] Plan Asgardian Foundation, Round 3.0
-[X] Martial: Train: Hand to Hand, DC 35
-[X] Diplomacy: Make friends during your lessons...and during training! DC 30
-[X] Stewardship: Observe monetary transactions from the common folk (can only be taken with the Intrigue action: Sneak off into Asgard) DC 30
-[X] Intrigue: Sneak off into Asgard, among the common folk. See what it was like to not be a Prince for once. DC 50
-[X] Learning: Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
-[X] Personal: Relationships: Spend time with some of your favorite people in the world! (Mother)
-[X] Martial: Train: Hand to Hand, DC 35
-[X] Diplomacy: Make friends during your lessons...and during training! DC 30
-[X] Stewardship: Observe monetary transactions from the common folk (can only be taken with the Intrigue action: Sneak off into Asgard) DC 30
-[X] Intrigue: Sneak off into Asgard, among the common folk. See what it was like to not be a Prince for once. DC 50
-[X] Learning: Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
-[X] Personal: Relationships: Spend time with some of your favorite people in the world! (Mother)
- Location
- USA
My only fear is that if we roll low, perhaps Loki becomes reliant on being around Frigga and gets a negative trait related to that...
Actually that would be hilarious.
I don't wish to risk it getting worse, I think Loki should take a break to sort himself out. Lets deal with Odin first to get him sorted out, and hopeful improve the relationship and if it doesn't then not a lot of harm. Also him as a stewardship option is only a 5 difference but the reward would be greater because it is a named character. We should also awaken magic because we can not learn it from books. Also will not get a negative trait unless the dice roll is a massive failure like the one with Thor.
[X] Setup and Safety V2
Martial:
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- [X] Train: The expectations haven't changed
-- [X] Hand to Hand, DC 35
Frigga knows the blade so she can teach us later, and we aren't planning to be a general or squad leader so the mental aspects are unnecessary.
Diplomacy:
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- [X] Bring a present to the instructor or trainer, it couldn't hurt to have them like you more. DC 12
Using a low DC action to build up to getting friends.
Stewardship:
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- [X] Try to observe how Father ran the kingdom. Even if you couldn't sit in on meetings... DC 55
Trying to fix the situation with Odin and get stewardship bonus from learning it from a named character.
Intrigue:
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- [X] Pull pranks on Thor. Those were always fun, and he never saw them coming! DC 15
Don't like pranking Thor, but it is a low DC action.
Learning:
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-[X] Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
Low DC action that will help with other learning activities.
Personal:
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-[X] There was...something in you. You could feel it. Try to tap into that. DC, ??
This is the only way to learn magic, can't learn it from books.
Is there a time limit that magic has to be awakened in? What turn does it become unavailable basically?
@KnowledgeKing
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KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
Apparently, failing by even less then a margin of 10 bumps our DC, so rolling too low on any action carries risk. At this point, I'm trying to build a plan based on what I want to happen rather than strict metagame risk mitigation.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Now with Feeling
- [X] Train: The expectations haven't changed
-- [X] Hand to Hand, DC 35
- [X] Make friends during your lessons...and during training! DC 30
- [X] Try to observe how Father ran the kingdom. Even if you couldn't sit in on meetings... DC 55
- [X] Pull pranks on Thor. Those were always fun, and he never saw them coming! DC 15
- [X] Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
- [X] There was...something in you. You could feel it. Try to tap into that. DC, ??
We should try and get some ability in combat, and hand-to-hand is more interesting than sword, the difference is minor, also we have to put down Megathor for his barbaric actions. We need friends we have a few options, and with young children sometimes persistence is key (I mean really its just horrid rolls but narrative justification). Because Loki needs an outlet and Thor was a jerk we prank him, that it can raise our intrigue makes it even better to prank. Though that intrigue action forces the Instructor lessons because that is the remaining easiest. Gets our basics down, and finally, we've studied magic, heard about another student spontaneously developing it, let's try to obtain our own.
- [X] Train: The expectations haven't changed
-- [X] Hand to Hand, DC 35
- [X] Make friends during your lessons...and during training! DC 30
- [X] Try to observe how Father ran the kingdom. Even if you couldn't sit in on meetings... DC 55
- [X] Pull pranks on Thor. Those were always fun, and he never saw them coming! DC 15
- [X] Pay extra attention to your Classes and try to excel! DC 15
- [X] There was...something in you. You could feel it. Try to tap into that. DC, ??
We should try and get some ability in combat, and hand-to-hand is more interesting than sword, the difference is minor, also we have to put down Megathor for his barbaric actions. We need friends we have a few options, and with young children sometimes persistence is key (I mean really its just horrid rolls but narrative justification). Because Loki needs an outlet and Thor was a jerk we prank him, that it can raise our intrigue makes it even better to prank. Though that intrigue action forces the Instructor lessons because that is the remaining easiest. Gets our basics down, and finally, we've studied magic, heard about another student spontaneously developing it, let's try to obtain our own.
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I am just scared that twice in a row will cause as many problems as failing horribly but I do agree otherwise.