Alayne
The Reader
- Location
- Home of the Vikings
Ye, if you shoot at anything that moves, eventually you're gonna shoot at something that you can't kill which will likely be the last thing you ever do.
Limit Theory [PA Multicross SI]
The Goa'uld stop to gloat. Every. Fucking. Time. With them you have plenty of time to identify and deal with the threat. They even announce themselves. There is plenty of reason to be gun-shy but that is no reason to kill all the things that vaguely pass by your territory.
- Pronouns
- she/her
We've seen Ba'al, it's just barely possible that an even smarter Goa'uld could discover how not to gloat.
Correction. Ba'al knew when to gloat. He waited until his victories were virtually assured beforehand. And while worlds better than your standard Goa'uld "gloat at the opening engagement" stratagy it still puts him in Bond villain territory.
Alayne
The Reader
- Location
- Home of the Vikings
And even if we disregard that the Goa'uld always gloat or take their sweet time to actually attack after dropping from hyperspace, all you need is one second for your systems to check "is it a confirmed hostile?" and if it isn't a confirmed hostile(such as Goa'uld which the weapons will automatically shoot at then) then you send out a message like this: "Unidentified Vessel. You are trespassing. Identify yourself or be destroyed."
You know, the standard response to unknown ships dropping into your territory.
You know, the standard response to unknown ships dropping into your territory.
Beyogi
and a fairy
- Pronouns
- She/Her
If you don't get to gloat why be a villain in the first place? I think Ba'al had the right idea.
- Location
- Arizona
Huh. at one point, I had considered those guys in my own story. But, I felt there wasn't enough info on them.
...Plus, I once played a Stargate Mod for Star Wars Empire At War that gave that ship model to the Aschen, so I might be subconsciously linking that ship shape to them instead of a neutral party.
...Plus, I once played a Stargate Mod for Star Wars Empire At War that gave that ship model to the Aschen, so I might be subconsciously linking that ship shape to them instead of a neutral party.
Chapter 30
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Chapter 30
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Lindy
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All 12 kilometer ships captured. Stealthing frame, switch systems mode to target conceal. From the outside, the ship vanished. From the inside, the ship's crew noticed the frame appear out of nowhere as the systems stopped hiding the frame from the ship and started hiding the ship from the outside world.
There were 48 8.5 kilometer ships that were scheduled to be neutralized next. Fortunately, Lindy had already used <Mom>'s fabricator-on-a-rope to do plenty of pre-sabotage work.
While <Mom> did say "ain't no party like a boarding party" whenever she boarded a ship, that struck her as inviting misfires and giving them the opportunity to realized they were about to get captured and either suicide or self-destruct. She had no intention of allowing them to do that. Which is where the new variant of Audux came in.
Equipped with only a tiny amount of point defense, it was based upon a single weapon. Gravity normally causes all objects to accelerate at the same rate. This is because it normally affects every part of an object equally.
If, however, a gravity source were only to affect one part of an object, such as a ship, it would not accelerate as fast as a smaller object entirely within the gravity field, such as a body. This was the idea on which Lindy had based her weapon. The Audux C-type was built around it, and now dozens of them around each target ship fired.
Lindy could see through her sensors as bodies went flying, slamming into bulkheads. She lacked the sensor capability to determine if the beings survived the impact.
Now, to send in teams to secure the targets and capture the ships. Once that was underway, Lindy moved her attention to the next set of ships.
Some of them had their shields up the entire time, and as such she was unable to infiltrate them. However, Goa'uld shields did not block gravity. It also appear this race had shields which also lacked protection in that area, as crew members were thrown about the corridors. Once the crew was unable to respond to anything, Lindy fired low-power shots at the ships until the shields failed.
With the dreadnoughts and carriers captured, Lindy moved on to the cruisers. They fell against the invisible, unknown enemy. Ships shut off in the middle of formation and vanished into the embrace of the stealth frames. Military discipline only went so far, and suddenly panic broke out among the fleet, ships peeling off from formation, firing at sensor ghosts. Then they shut down and vanished in moments.
One hour after the planet's comms shut off, Lindy finished. Every single member of the fleet was captured, contained in her cells, and unconscious. Apparently one of the things <Mom> had found was a medical device, but the reverse-engineering on it hadn't finished. <Mom> probably would have tried to heal them, she supposed.
Well, she didn't have the capability or the motivation, she reasoned. They would simply have to take care of their own wounded. In the meantime, she was going to assimilate the system as best she could. Given the large number of economic vessels (<Mom> called them "Settlers ") she had brought to the system, it would be much faster than usual. In fact, she could just skip the metal extractor stage entirely with the the amount of metal plants she had in-system.
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Rachel
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Huh, she's finished. Lindy has completed her first siege. I'm so proud of her. Okay, she did have to ask me for advice, but I think she could have handled it by herself no problem. Of course, we may have just started an interstellar war. Oh well.
"Well done, Lindy!" I announced over the command network, giving her the impression I would be ruffling her hair if she was physically present.
"Mom." She stated. "Please stop."
"Alright." I pouted. "Results?" Lindy passed me a large data packet. "Wait." I said.
"Huh?" Lindy said.
"Try giving me a summary first. Most people can't absorb this amount of knowledge easily, so when working with organics it's important to be able to summarize." I said.
"Alright." Lindy took a mental breath.
"The Knowdraden have a colonial union that has slowly expanded over the past 500 years since they liberated themselves from Sehkmet. They did this by poisoning the water supply of their world with a naquadah-based toxin that slowly killed every Goa'uld and jaffa on the planet. They buried the Stargate and began a slow expansion of their territory. They have remained strictly isolationist, refusing an alliance with the Asgard and races in this galaxy. Their use of ground-to-far-orbit cannons, when combined with their hyperspace sensors, allows them to destroy almost any ship that enters their systems. They patrol the uninhabitable systems nearby, and will chase down and destroy any ship that enters them. Seeking an alliance with them would be futile. I estimate that I should be able to establish sensor coverage across their territory by the end of the week."
"I see." I pondered, then looked at the data packet. "Yeah, I think you nailed it. As for my fictional knowledge, they only showed up in one episode, we didn't get to see them on-screen, and most of the episode was one character hallucinating. They didn't even get named. It's good that they're not in contact with any other races, as it gives us pretty much free reign to handle them how we want. Have you come up with a plan?"
"Wait until we've reverse-engineered their technology, and then create cheap ships that only use that technology. Take all the prisoners and ship them to the homeworld, with the declaration that we would be setting up a sensor network across their territory. The return of the prisoners will give them relief, and the fact that we were able to capture all of them intact will give them fear. That should mean they would listen to us."
"Well, your guess is as good as mine." I shrugged. "Might as well give it a shot."
"Thank you mom." Lindy went to work.
"Hey Lindy?" I asked.
"Yes?" She responded.
"You should probably get all of your prisoners out of their ships before they go insane or die of oxygen deprivation." I said.
"That would run counter to my goals." She nodded.
Glitchrr36
Slick's Short Company, CEO
- Location
- The Wastes
- Pronouns
- He/Him
- Location
- Near Freiburg in South-West Germany
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Chapter 7, my first tech chapter. And I'm not particularly concerned about seeing my current round of ships in 3d form.
Yes, as seonor said. I put in that evil smiley when I said "you get a name on Monday" because I had to make up a name for them.
Probably not the same degree as shown. We do have a "gravity cushion" in our tech tree, which can kind be used like a tractor beam, but a) nowhere near as precise as the comic and b) a lot easier to escape, given that it has like a 2G wall. If she wanted to do immobilization, she would have done forcefields instead. But she didn't, because it was far simpler to slam everyone in an area against the wall and leave them there than to try and secure all of them with forcefields.
Glitchrr36
Slick's Short Company, CEO
- Location
- The Wastes
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Ah, just a slightly altered omega. Yeah, I can see why you wouldn't need to see a model since the model in PA is almost completely identical.
Chapter 31
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Chibi plane~ 
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10 August 2000
Well, I just found something very interesting. It's an obelisk directly in front of the Stargate. Morgan le Fay's planetary circuit thingy that she used to hide Merlin's stasis pod and lab. Well, let me put that back in place.
The obelisk is an Ancient transporter device that can teleport the entire laboratory through the Stargate. Actually, there are several obelisks, arranged in a circle around a crater 20 kilometers across. Don't tell me that's how big the lab actually was. Oh well. I've nano-scanned the obelisks, and now it's time to wait. Add a clause to the exploration macros to leave this stuff in place wherever they find it, and if they see the laboratory stick a couple of units in there and don't have them touch anything. Ascendtech is no laughing matter.
Alright, shove the scan data into our research network, and hang on just a second.
Okay, that part is definitely the same part as in the ring transporters. In fact, it's pretty easy for me to see that there isn't anything fundamentally different between this and the ring transporter. Fundamentally different construction techniques and having a far better design, yes, but no fundamentally different.
A quick note on how Ancient transporters work: they convert the target into an energy packet that gets held in a vacuum chamber buffer. Not sure how the long-term storage in Glastonbury Tor worked, that's still in the research queue. Then the system flings the energy packet around to wherever it needs to go. Apparently, that includes through the Stargate, if needed. So, I'm now going to run a quick test to see if I can send units through with my own ring transporters. I need to dig up a Stargate and get it ready. Give it an iris, get the DHD ready, make a Stargate facility, all that jazz.
For an iris, I'm not just going to copy the Tau'ri's design. I've got a design that doesn't have the "flower" at the middle, and can slide back to seal the gate when I don't want anyone to dial in. It can also slide back a bit less, to block particle accelerator attacks.
I make a nice space station to put the thing in. A nice big embarkation room, that I could stick a large army in, filled with hidden weaponry and teleporters that will let us crush any fools who manage to make it into the gate. A control room, though it really only contains the DHD right now. I might add some control panels if I find some humans I can trust and I have some biometric security that can't be fooled. I also add decontamination, quarantine, medical, meeting, and residence rooms. Plenty of stuff for the humans.
I do also add its own downsized factories to make units that can fit through the Stargate. I could just use a standard-sized factory, but this feels right. And then I make some units. I have my c-dox for shooting things, my c-fabber for building things, and that's currently my small unit count. I want a smaller transport that can fit through the Stargate, unlike my transport-plane-sized Gull design.
The Sparrow Light Transport looks like a more angular, boxy version of the Puddle Jumper from Stargate: Atlantis. Unlike the jumper, the sparrow doesn't need to have its drive units deploy for top speed, though I do give it fold-out wings to make it look cooler. The boxy design actually makes them look a bit better than if I had used a curved hull. The front sticks forward enough for a curved canopy, giving any organic pilots a much better view than the jumper's cockpit. It's unarmed, but it can run all its stealth features and shield at the same time, including the cloaking device. The cloak being active does make the shield unable to block electromagnetic weaponry, but it eliminates the visual shimmers that my visual stealth can't hide. I've actually added it to all my unit's stealth suites.
Next, because drawing on the Puddle Jumper made me remember the Spacegates in Atlantis, I made a tiny aerospace fabber. Basically, I just took the advanced air fabber and made a chibi version of it. Much smaller, much fatter, and much cuter. Seriously, much cuter. I fab up a Buffalo Light Aerospace Fabber, then fab up an avatar and bring them both into the embarkation room.
Then I start hugging the chibi plane. Seriously, it's adorable. Not that squishy though. I need squishier units so I can hug them. Then I ordered the buffalo to start nuzzling me.
"Mom what are you doing?" Lindy interrupts my nuzzling of the chibi plane. "Mom stop."
"Uh…" I blushed bright red, "It's… it's… okay it's as weird as it looked." I finish meekly. "It's cute!" I protest, when I receive a blank stare from Lindy. "And you don't want hugs." I add.
"I am uncertain on how to hug." She stated. "As it seems to be an emotionally charged action I am afraid of making a mistake."
"Uh, look, don't worry." That's pretty much my reason for avoiding hugs when I was human.
"But… awkwardness will happen." She let out.
"Oh, don't worry." I tried to be reassuring. I'm not sure I succeeded. "We can leave it."
"Alright." She sounds slightly assured. Which for Lindy means Oh thank god I'm saved. That was about my reaction to getting hugged when I was a human. Actually not that bad, since it depended on the person. My friends I would generally let hug me, but my family I didn't.
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Chapter 31
10 August 2000
Well, I just found something very interesting. It's an obelisk directly in front of the Stargate. Morgan le Fay's planetary circuit thingy that she used to hide Merlin's stasis pod and lab. Well, let me put that back in place.
The obelisk is an Ancient transporter device that can teleport the entire laboratory through the Stargate. Actually, there are several obelisks, arranged in a circle around a crater 20 kilometers across. Don't tell me that's how big the lab actually was. Oh well. I've nano-scanned the obelisks, and now it's time to wait. Add a clause to the exploration macros to leave this stuff in place wherever they find it, and if they see the laboratory stick a couple of units in there and don't have them touch anything. Ascendtech is no laughing matter.
Alright, shove the scan data into our research network, and hang on just a second.
Okay, that part is definitely the same part as in the ring transporters. In fact, it's pretty easy for me to see that there isn't anything fundamentally different between this and the ring transporter. Fundamentally different construction techniques and having a far better design, yes, but no fundamentally different.
A quick note on how Ancient transporters work: they convert the target into an energy packet that gets held in a vacuum chamber buffer. Not sure how the long-term storage in Glastonbury Tor worked, that's still in the research queue. Then the system flings the energy packet around to wherever it needs to go. Apparently, that includes through the Stargate, if needed. So, I'm now going to run a quick test to see if I can send units through with my own ring transporters. I need to dig up a Stargate and get it ready. Give it an iris, get the DHD ready, make a Stargate facility, all that jazz.
For an iris, I'm not just going to copy the Tau'ri's design. I've got a design that doesn't have the "flower" at the middle, and can slide back to seal the gate when I don't want anyone to dial in. It can also slide back a bit less, to block particle accelerator attacks.
I make a nice space station to put the thing in. A nice big embarkation room, that I could stick a large army in, filled with hidden weaponry and teleporters that will let us crush any fools who manage to make it into the gate. A control room, though it really only contains the DHD right now. I might add some control panels if I find some humans I can trust and I have some biometric security that can't be fooled. I also add decontamination, quarantine, medical, meeting, and residence rooms. Plenty of stuff for the humans.
I do also add its own downsized factories to make units that can fit through the Stargate. I could just use a standard-sized factory, but this feels right. And then I make some units. I have my c-dox for shooting things, my c-fabber for building things, and that's currently my small unit count. I want a smaller transport that can fit through the Stargate, unlike my transport-plane-sized Gull design.
The Sparrow Light Transport looks like a more angular, boxy version of the Puddle Jumper from Stargate: Atlantis. Unlike the jumper, the sparrow doesn't need to have its drive units deploy for top speed, though I do give it fold-out wings to make it look cooler. The boxy design actually makes them look a bit better than if I had used a curved hull. The front sticks forward enough for a curved canopy, giving any organic pilots a much better view than the jumper's cockpit. It's unarmed, but it can run all its stealth features and shield at the same time, including the cloaking device. The cloak being active does make the shield unable to block electromagnetic weaponry, but it eliminates the visual shimmers that my visual stealth can't hide. I've actually added it to all my unit's stealth suites.
Next, because drawing on the Puddle Jumper made me remember the Spacegates in Atlantis, I made a tiny aerospace fabber. Basically, I just took the advanced air fabber and made a chibi version of it. Much smaller, much fatter, and much cuter. Seriously, much cuter. I fab up a Buffalo Light Aerospace Fabber, then fab up an avatar and bring them both into the embarkation room.
Then I start hugging the chibi plane. Seriously, it's adorable. Not that squishy though. I need squishier units so I can hug them. Then I ordered the buffalo to start nuzzling me.
"Mom what are you doing?" Lindy interrupts my nuzzling of the chibi plane. "Mom stop."
"Uh…" I blushed bright red, "It's… it's… okay it's as weird as it looked." I finish meekly. "It's cute!" I protest, when I receive a blank stare from Lindy. "And you don't want hugs." I add.
"I am uncertain on how to hug." She stated. "As it seems to be an emotionally charged action I am afraid of making a mistake."
"Uh, look, don't worry." That's pretty much my reason for avoiding hugs when I was human.
"But… awkwardness will happen." She let out.
"Oh, don't worry." I tried to be reassuring. I'm not sure I succeeded. "We can leave it."
"Alright." She sounds slightly assured. Which for Lindy means Oh thank god I'm saved. That was about my reaction to getting hugged when I was a human. Actually not that bad, since it depended on the person. My friends I would generally let hug me, but my family I didn't.
- Location
- Somewhere on the flat earth
*hugs*
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Uh, thanks. *Accepts hugs*
Nothing that relevant right now. It's got a shieldbreaker function, which is why it's so bulky.
Huh, given that function could be fit inside a handheld weapon, railgun rounds and missiles can probably be retrofitted with it.
I bet that'd freak people out.
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Those are called Drone Weapons.
I think in a setting where personal shields are things, having a shieldbuster melee weapon is a logical idea.
The shieldbuster system can't be used on something as small as a railgun round - or at least, not without it requiring Metal to fabricate and/or greatly slowing down the rate of fire a lot. Better to integrate them into missiles, which are already pretty slow-firing.
- Location
- Arizona
Theres a few ways you could get a shield breaker/bypass affect in Stargate (without resorting to Drones), it just depends how variable the shields you're working against are.
My picks would be either pinpoint hyperspace jumps or a phasing device.
In terms of brute force, I think the reason the Asgard beams work so well against shields is because I think shields aren't used to reacting against constant pinpoint damage. So, a constant beam weapon could have increased effectiveness against shields. But that's my personal head canon
My picks would be either pinpoint hyperspace jumps or a phasing device.
In terms of brute force, I think the reason the Asgard beams work so well against shields is because I think shields aren't used to reacting against constant pinpoint damage. So, a constant beam weapon could have increased effectiveness against shields. But that's my personal head canon