Life Ore Death - DC Feruchemy [Young Justice]

Yeah. It's really the same for me, which sort of confuses people because I'm all about pursuing immortality. I guess it's mostly just that just because we'll all inevitably die doesn't mean we should die in a stupid way like existing long enough for our heart to stop working.

Makes sense to me, actually. If you're gonna die at some point, you want the death to mean something rather than just having entropy catch up with you. It's not a standpoint I agree with (mostly because no matter what happens after I die, I sincerely doubt I'll like what happens to me), but I definitely see where you're coming from on that; it's only confusing at first glance.

Slightly more on-topic, I wonder if Renka tapping sufficient Connection would allow her to communicate with Jericho in sign language. In theory, there's no reason why it shouldn't, but on the other hand, it's never been tested on a sign language before as far as I know.
 
Hmm...

Death, the one Renka met, is not temporary. She just too kind to care for people leaving her domain... Because, in the End, everything is hers anyway ;)
 
She is pretty much DC counterpart of X-23: Vandal Savage daughter, highly trained combat regenerator.
Yeah, I mean, is she particularly special among the various hero's rogue galleries. I assume her part in the Secret Six means she's more high profile and been the centre of more story lines than the average bad guy, but how dangerous is she compared to say Deathstroke or Sportsmaster or the Bat family (our go to comparisons for badass normals). Is she pretty high tier or is her family relations the reason that obloquy thought that we'd be freaking out.
Because by my observations she and six (seven, who is fly guy anyway) New Gods just failed to beat the Team after an ambush and it took just two of the Red Robots to complete that job. So I'm pretty far from being whelmed.
Right now the only thing that she could probably do that I'd consider even vaguely threatening will be when she responds to the voice mail saying "Oh by the way, you know that old base the Justice League had in Happy Harbour? The one you said they'd be fools to continue operating out of it now that its public knowledge? They're still using it."
And frankly she doesn't need to be Vandals daughter for that to be a threat, any random mercenary who was in her place could try and sell that information.
 
Yeah, I mean, is she particularly special among the various hero's rogue galleries. I assume her part in the Secret Six means she's more high profile and been the centre of more story lines than the average bad guy, but how dangerous is she compared to say Deathstroke or Sportsmaster or the Bat family (our go to comparisons for badass normals). Is she pretty high tier or is her family relations the reason that obloquy thought that we'd be freaking out.
Because by my observations she and six (seven, who is fly guy anyway) New Gods just failed to beat the Team after an ambush and it took just two of the Red Robots to complete that job. So I'm pretty far from being whelmed.
Right now the only thing that she could probably do that I'd consider even vaguely threatening will be when she responds to the voice mail saying "Oh by the way, you know that old base the Justice League had in Happy Harbour? The one you said they'd be fools to continue operating out of it now that its public knowledge? They're still using it."
And frankly she doesn't need to be Vandals daughter for that to be a threat, any random mercenary who was in her place could try and sell that information.
As far as I know, the comics only show her once during her pre-Six life. Action Comics 895, for one page. We don't know who her mother is, what her real name is or what she usually does with herself.
 
Slightly more on-topic, I wonder if Renka tapping sufficient Connection would allow her to communicate with Jericho in sign language. In theory, there's no reason why it shouldn't, but on the other hand, it's never been tested on a sign language before as far as I know.
Jericho doesn't know sign language well enough for that to work yet. Eventually it could, if she found a way to either Connect just with him instead of the surroundings, or found a neutral area where the predominant local language wouldn't usurp that connection.

If she was in a place where sign language was the predominant mode of communication - like a school for the deaf - she could theoretically tap into that local connection for it.

Is she pretty high tier or is her family relations the reason that obloquy thought that we'd be freaking out.
Nothing that extreme. I was just wondering why it seemed like no one had noticed that the daughter of the Light's Founder - aka, the heiress to the head of the Big Bad Ensemble - was in the room without anyone on the League or Team being the wiser.

Her combat skills are respectable - I imagine she'd stand better than even odds of beating Kaldur in a fair fight, and she rarely fights fair - but combat lethality is only a part of what could qualify her as dangerous in these circumstances.
 
Nothing that extreme. I was just wondering why it seemed like no one had noticed that the daughter of the Light's Founder - aka, the heiress to the head of the Big Bad Ensemble - was in the room without anyone on the League or Team being the wiser.
I think I looked her up when I was trying keep the two couples straight.
Nobody else seemed particularly bothered or curious who this was so I kinda shrugged it off. Having read precisely 0% of the Secret 6 or anything about her except her bizarre relationships my impression was that she was trying to distance herself from her father somewhat. Not that she's trying to get away from crime more that she's trying to establish independence.
Well I'd be more worried if she answered the phone call, due to traceability if nothing else.
Now that I think about it, damn good reception on that phone to penetrate deep into an underground bunker with metal all that metal and stuff.
 
Nothing that extreme. I was just wondering why it seemed like no one had noticed that the daughter of the Light's Founder - aka, the heiress to the head of the Big Bad Ensemble - was in the room without anyone on the League or Team being the wiser.
Heiress is kinda a misnomer tho. At best he doesn't have the slightest intent on ever dying or giving up any power ever, at worst, his immortality is flawed and any descendants are merely walking replacement organ freezers.

So while I noticed her, I see her more as a potential kink on the Light's armor more than a foe. Kinda like Jade, but with higher likelihood of actually knowing shit instead of being a peon.

Now that I think about it, damn good reception on that phone to penetrate deep into an underground bunker with metal all that metal and stuff.
There's probably a repeater inside.

Granted, that also means that all phone calls are monitored by Batman. It also probably scrambles the location data so it comes up as being elsewhere.
 
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Having read precisely 0% of the Secret 6 or anything about her except her bizarre relationships my impression was that she was trying to distance herself from her father somewhat. Not that she's trying to get away from crime more that she's trying to establish independence.

I'd be surprised if they have a close relationship here.

In the comics he threatened her if she didn't start spewing out grandkids, and once tried to eat her to prolong his own life when his cancer was finally catching up with him.

Father of the year material he isn't.
 
Jericho doesn't know sign language well enough for that to work yet. Eventually it could, if she found a way to either Connect just with him instead of the surroundings, or found a neutral area where the predominant local language wouldn't usurp that connection.

If she was in a place where sign language was the predominant mode of communication - like a school for the deaf - she could theoretically tap into that local connection for it.
If Renka's ability to Connect operates on a local scale, does that mean she picks up regional accents when she travels? I find the idea of Renka speaking in a thick Boston accent, or a southern twang to be infinitely amusing.
 
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I'd be surprised if they have a close relationship here.

In the comics he threatened her if she didn't start spewing out grandkids, and once tried to eat her to prolong his own life when his cancer was finally catching up with him.

Father of the year material he isn't.
I didn't say close. We haven't exactly had her on screen for long before Vandal called her. I'm not saying that they talk every day, just that if they only speak once in a blue moon this was a major statistical anomaly.
 
I didn't say close. We haven't exactly had her on screen for long before Vandal called her. I'm not saying that they talk every day, just that if they only speak once in a blue moon this was a major statistical anomaly.
Or he keeps tabs on her and isn't amused she went awol.

If Renka's ability to Connect operates on a local scale, does that mean she picks up regional accents when she travels? I find the idea of Renka speaking in a thick Boston accent, or a southern twang to be infinitely amusing.
I always imagined it to be something like with myself: spend more than 5 minutes talking with someone, and my accent will morph to match. Be in a room with many people from different places, and my accent will jump every time I turn to talk with someone else by the third sentence.
 
If Renka's ability to Connect operates on a local scale, does that mean she picks up regional accents when she travels? I find the idea of Renka speaking in a thick Boston accent, or a southern twang to be infinitely amusing.
Actually, she largely speaks with a Scadrese accent, just less thick and more fluent than her usual English accent, because her Identity and Connection still remember that she originated on Scadrial.

If she went somewhere with two major language, like Canada, she might speak with English and French accents mixed in, but unless an accent is prominent enough to be its own dialect or sub-language, that's probably not happening.

I'd be surprised if they have a close relationship here.

In the comics he threatened her if she didn't start spewing out grandkids, and once tried to eat her to prolong his own life when his cancer was finally catching up with him.

Father of the year material he isn't.

Nobody else seemed particularly bothered or curious who this was so I kinda shrugged it off. Having read precisely 0% of the Secret 6 or anything about her except her bizarre relationships my impression was that she was trying to distance herself from her father somewhat. Not that she's trying to get away from crime more that she's trying to establish independence.
Well, this is a totally different universe/continuity. Truth be told, I haven't actually read any of the Secret 6 stuff either beyond what's available on the DC wiki. Since there's no Earth-3 Luthor (WTH, anyway?) the Secret Six aren't an extant thing on Earth-16 anyway (yet).

And yes, as will be mentioned later, there are some big grudges between Scandal (not actually the name on her birth certificate, but this isn't the first time she's used it,) and Vandal Savage - she tried to kill him more than once in an earlier part of her life - but things have recently simmered down to a belligerent, exasperated, semi-grateful cooperativeness on her part ever since the formation of the Light and Vandal pulling a few strings on her behalf (as a change of pace).

She is to him a lot like what Talia is to Ra's al Ghul now: not just an 'heir' in the sense of inheriting if he dies, but an organizational major domo who keeps track of his general schedule, communicates between members of his inner circle, receives reports from underlings too unimportant to meet Vandal personally, explains how to handle all the newfangled gizmos that've come out, and generally fits him into the modern era more efficiently.

Fun Fact: Scandal does his wardrobe shopping, and has subtly exerted her resistance by occasionally convincing him of otherwise ridiculous claims, such as tie-dye shirts being a marker of rich-guy-slumming-it due to "the incredibly expensive and complicated method of making them," a red heart shape representing martial prowess instead of romantic love, and differently colored hems on clothing (such as the red hemming down the front of his jacket) being symbolic of self-made wealth.

(I'm eventually going to put this stuff in a series of Light Fun Facts entries, I promise, but I'm having trouble writing ones that won't be plot spoilers.)

Is there anyone wondering about how, exactly, Scandal and Knockout are supposed to have met in Earth-16? That's the thing I was really expecting someone to mention.

Female Fury and Savage's daughter... Well, it's not like Apokolips and The Light know each other or have an alliance or anything, right? Scandal certainly never suggested that she might have need help involving a "diplomatic incident" or anything, after all.
"Some thugs from Apokolips, and one guy in particular, once tried something and got stabbed for their trouble. Knockout was in the group that got sent out in reply. We… ended up together, after."
 
Really good episode( group of chapters)

When she is feeling better and restored her reserves I will love seeing her heavily tapping connection and the god speaking her mantle to either a new good from either planet.

Has her deep meld with fate affected her in a simular manner as the well of Ascension. Entropy + fate = renka.

Hmmm to suggestions for heamalurgic spikes, copper spike to take knowledge and memories from a mad genius who she deems needs to die, and atium spike to a god/goddess .or to take away either savages regeneration, or a copper spike on reach scarab taking their knowledge base.


Also I wonder what are the odds of renka and maybe a few if not the whole team getting banished to somewhere in the Cosmere. Lol Robin with biochroma or Artemis with a spren. Though I would actually love to see them in something like the stormlight archives
 
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Target Demographic - part 6
Life Ore Death
* November 9 [Wally PoV]

"Nope, Ah'm not planning on dying for Darkseid, and if his stone-face-ness has any problems with that, he's welcome to lean over and kiss my a- ahh, ahh!" The knockout beauty named Knockout began yelping, because her hottie lesbian lover had just reached over, pinched her ear, and twisted. "Noone'skissinganypartofme! Noone'skissinganypartofmewithoutyourpermission! NomoreDeadshots! NomoreDeadshots!" she yelped.

"Good girl," Scandal decided, and let her go. I would have bet money that she was smiling faintly under that mask of hers.

"Yeah, that," Barda grumbled morosely, and I turned back to the other scantily clad, super-hot woman in the Mountain. "Spooky."

'Stay on task,' I reminded myself sternly. 'They just tried to kill Renka, so I shouldn't be oggling them, no matter how- Ugh! Stupid teen hormones!'

"Mm. Look as my mind," Ferris murmured at Barda, and I slid to stand almost between them as Barda turned back to look at my friend who she was willing to murder, since Ferris had barely spoken the past half-hour.

'Granted, Ferris isn't taking it all that personally, but she also said she'd take it personally if we were targeted, so… Well, there are things that being hot doesn't get you out of,' I grumbled mentally. I didn't feel any better about Barda being unimpressed at my stink-eye, sadly.

"Ferris comes from a world with less advanced technology, and a smaller diversity of powers," I summarized shortly for Barda, "so whenever she comes up against stuff like teleportation, nanotechnology, or Atlantean biomancy, trying to work it out makes her head hurt."

"Oh. …Yes, that's pretty accurate. I mean," Barda admitted with a grimace, "it's breaking my brain right now just to figure out which is supposed to be weirder, how easily Kay said that when I still have a bit of trouble trying to vocalize my disrespect, or how easily she got reigned in by her beau. Add on the woman holding Anti-Life with no connection to Apokolips and sure it's making my head hurt."

I glanced down at Ferris in her wheelchair, assessed, and then conveyed, "She's sending you her sympathies, since she knows what that's like."

"Thanks," Barda grunted, and I knew it had just made her head hurt a bit more. I smirked, appreciating why Ferris liked to do this.

"What did you mean by, 'No more Deadshots,' just now?" Superman asked. "Are you referring to the mercenary, Deadshot?"

"Yup," Scandal said shortly, popping the p-sound behind her mask. "Long story: through a headache-inducing series of events in another jurisdiction, Kay once got in bed with him despite us being together, and then she had no idea why I was upset when I found out."

I crushed off my little twinge of hormones wondering what that'd be like if it'd happened to me, since these guys almost killed Ferris, but part of me did sigh at the way creeps like Deadshot got all the perks while we superheroes got left holding the bill.

"Aw c'monnn, Ah already apologized out the wazoo," Knockout whined. "Captain, back me up here, it happens all the time for us!"

Barda shrugged her shoulders, and Scandal turned to her. 'Huh. Maybe she's as curious about it as I am,' I wondered.

"Actually, that's a good point," the masked brunette decided. "My chances to encounter any New Gods other than Kay are… well." 'Yeah, she's married-or-whatever to a turncoat, so she can't really go visit the in-laws,' I considered, leaning over the back of the wheelchair a bit. "Since the Justice League is asking about Apokolips anyway-," Her eyes flicked toward where Kaldur and Uncle Barry were talking to Vykin and Scott Free. "-would it be too much trouble to tell me a bit more about this? If you don't mind?" she added to Superman.

"Well, we're not on a time-limit right now," he decided, eyes flicking towards Ferris to see that she was also interested, which was agreement.

"So, if Apokolips is Planet Hellhole," I asked, "does it even have things like marriage, or is it just a free for all, or what?"

"It… depends a lot on caste," Barda said slowly, "but mostly the idea of love marriages… the idea exists, but I think Darkseid just lets it spread to perpetuate the misery of everyone who finds love and is denied it. Among the nobility, marriages are arranged, either for political gain or by Darkseid personally, perhaps because he thinks it's funny." She scowled. "Among the lowlies, you can find things like love marriages and commitment, if only because no one cares enough to regulate them. Even then it's rare, and they can get ripped apart easily."

"Ick, talk about a disturbing disaster of a dystopian world. It's like that across the entire planet?" Rob asked vaulting over a couch to join us.

Barda nodded, and I wondered again… 'Well, it is a really advanced civilization – in terms of technology, at least, but they're pretty barbaric about everything else – so them being that homogenous, having wrecked their ecosystem with industrial pollution, having really brutal 1984 practices and being an actual ecumenopolis isn't totally unthinkable. Just look at what the 'good guys' were willing to do earlier.'

"Darkseid has turned Apokolips into an extension, expression, and reflection of his own will. Fire pits, ghettos, factories, chemical labs, and a few vast expanses where all life was scoured away by something or other. Misery is the basic state of being for most of Apokolips, and death is a mercy and a release. But they all revere Darkseid as a god, and most of them are almost totally subservient to his will."

"Is it some kind of planet-wide brainwashing effect?" Scandal asked carefully. Barda shrugged.

"Maybe. I was a soldier, and even if I was high on the totem pole I was never the best at tech-work or mantling theory. Darkseid's ultimate goal is to attain the Anti-Life Equation in its entirety, at which point he'll be able to wipe out free will and utterly control all of existence by his word alone." Ferris snorted at that. "Given how big the universe is, I wouldn't be surprised if whatever parts he's already obtained are enough to let him create a planet-wide brainwashing effect, especially an imperfect one, given what it does in person."

"What position of authority did you have on Apokolips?" Superman asked. Knockout perked up, but Scandal quieted her.

"I was Captain of Darkseid's royal guard, leader of the Female Furies. There were male furies too," she added, "but they usually went by a different term, got different assignments, or were cycled off to join another Corps, largely because Granny preferred females."

"That's Granny Goodness, head and founder of the Furies; she was pretty much the only one above Captain," Knockout chimed.

"Granny Goodness? This is totally one of those ironic name things, and she's super evil, right?" Rob checked. Ferris grunted a bit.

"Oh hell yes it's ironic. Granny Goodness is one of Darkseid's inner circle, and she's… I think the best translation of her mantle in your language would be to call her the New God of Child Abuse," Barda answered, and that dropped my jaw a bit. Because really?

"New God of Child Abuse? What the heck does that even mean, and- okay, sure, we get it, Apokolips is really, really evil, but come on, really?" I asked. Rob bent over to put his ear by Ferris's mouth as she said something under her breath.

"Really. She's in charge of the orphanage and educational services; Scott wasn't kidding when he compared being raised by her to a childhood of torture. She's a master of physical and emotional suffering, and the expert at breaking young minds into becoming loyal soldiers willing to 'die for Darkseid'. That's literally a quote of their rallying call and ideals," Barda added.

"How can a place so horrible even continue to exist?" Superman wondered, which I was thinking too. Barda had a short answer.

"Different people suffer in different ways, castes who have even small privileges love to lord it over everyone lower, putting most of the weapons in the hands of the soldier caste members, the disparity in technology between everyone, education, and indoctrination."

"Can you tell me some more about the castes? Knockout was never very specific about Apokolips society," Scandal said carefully.

"Hey, I just knew who was above me: who I had to obey, and who I didn't. Simple as that," the redhead complained with a shrug.

"You would think so, Kay," Barda said with a little laugh. "There are… a whole bunch of complicated strata, but the main thing to know is that all power on Apokolips comes from Darkseid. If Darkseid declares a Dog Soldier to be in his inner circle, then all the nobles are going to bow their heads; supposedly, that's exactly what happened with Granny Goodness, but it was early in his reign, a while ago."

"So given that a lot of courts are nest of vipers, how much actual back-stabbing and insubordination can we expect there?" I asked.

"Thing is, any power that doesn't come directly from Darkseid is the result of personal power. In view of anyone major, it's usual to obey court protocol. I've seen Darkseid let people get away with things because the laws are what he says they are, but risking that the god of Tyranny will let you get away with insubordination is not a good gamble. Backstabbing and plotting is basically a matter of how well you can hurt someone out of sight without being caught. Plenty of people would undercut Granny obliquely, like Desaad, but not obviously."

"Power equals power," Ferris said. Rob settled into her lap – 'I guess that's what she asked him? But why that? Maybe something else, or a gambit?' I wondered – and I leaned over to wrap my arms around her shoulders, since she wasn't looking any less beat up than before.

"That's shorthand for a talk she has about how any amount of power can usually be translated into another currency," I explained.

"Another… currency?" Barda asked, eyes narrowing.

"Ah. I remember when we had this talk, along the rooftops," Superman recalled.

Knockout snorted. "Is there anything worth having other than fighting power? Ah can't think of it," she grumbled irately.

"Plenty, but the point is that you can turn other things into fighting power, or back, right?" Scandal guessed a bit more astutely.

"Bingo," I said, giving a charming grin on reflex before I remembered she'd come here to help strangers kill my friend. 'I need to keep that more in focus. Seriously.' "She said violence is the smallest, uh, she talked around it a bit because she didn't have quite the right word…."

"Denomination," Superman volunteered. "Power is the ability to change the world, and violent force is the smallest denomination or unit of power, she believes, because it's what we can fall back on when other methods – reasoned debate, monetary trade, peer pressure, or other courses of action – fail. We use violence after every other option has failed. 'Ultima Ratio Regeum.' A King Louis in France had that phrase carved on his cannons as a symbol of the royal ability to enforce their will through force. Violence as 'the last argument of kings'."

"And the first argument of super-powered people everywhere," I pointed out drily, because it seemed like all we did was fighting.

Ferris whined softly, to almost everyone's alarm, and Rob twisted around in her lap, to listen.

"Huh? Yeah, Kid Flash, we think you're forgetting our cunning sting operation on Eiling, her work on the grafts in Atlantis, all the charity work done by pretty much everyone in the Justice League, and, oh yeah, the time she talked down a genocidal robot with no fighting."

I had to stifle a guffaw, because, 'Okay, okay, they've definitely got me.'

"She what? Really?" Scandal asked, starting up. "Seriously: When was a robot about to commit genocide, how did it pull that off without anything on the news, and what did she say to talk it down? Don't tell me that Star Trek speeches about the value of life actually work in real life."

Ferris just chuckled softly; Rob and me laughed with her at the good memories. Scandal's phone rang, but she quickly silenced it.
 
"Seriously: When was a robot about to commit genocide, how did it pull that off without anything on the news, and what did she say to talk it down? Don't tell me that Star Trek speeches about the value of life actually work in real life."
Does the world know how close Yellowstone came to erupting, even if they don't know Red Volcano was behind it?
 
If Barda wants to hang out with more New Gods, there are some hanging out on Earth.

Wyldheart, adopted daughter ala Superman of people trying to crack the metagene as a step towards transhumanity. Sister Sunlight, faith healer from Apokalips. Twilight, woman who can heal and attack with darkness who has hated God since her adopted sister died from the Black Plague.

Probably too early for Little Barda and Powerboy.

And probably wouldn't want to hang out with the Black Racer or the more Apokalips aligned like Riproar or Dr Impossible.
 
@Obloquy Just read through this story and I have to say I really enjoy it. Not too familiar with DC in general, but the Mistborn crossover element is what drew me in. I'm a huge fan of Sanderson's work, as my sig will attest. There really is a startling lack of Mistborn or wider Cosmere fanfiction out there, so it's nice to find anything, let alone anything this good. Renka is a really interesting character, and the rest of the Team are fleshed-out and complex as well. Some of the formatting in the earlier stages was a little wonky, especially the Shardic font color shifts, but it's sort of become less obtrusive as it goes on.

Some brief questions:
  1. Early on I think you mention Renka being sent to DC Earth by Daddy Sazed Harmony about three years after the Catacendre, and her memories hinted that she'd been experimenting in Hemalurgy with Spook at some point. How aware is she of the events of Secret History?
  2. Do you have any plans for "Trell" or the godmetal trellium to show up at all? I understand Renka was sent to Earth centuries before the Wax & Wayne era, but we know that whatever Shard's Investiture forms trellium is interfering on Scadrial, and any shard interested enough to interfere in another Shard's planet is likely going to be interested in seeing what they wanted from that other universe.
  3. How much of Renka's fluctuating English proficiency is due to her not always tapping Connection so she can learn on her own, and how much is her playing dumb in order to get away with things/mess with people?
 
Early on I think you mention Renka being sent to DC Earth by Daddy Sazed Harmony about three years after the Catacendre, and her memories hinted that she'd been experimenting in Hemalurgy with Spook at some point. How aware is she of the events of Secret History?

She mentioned that Kelsier was a Sliver a while back, if memory serves, so I'm reasonably certain she's aware of pretty much everything in Secret History thanks to her dip in Ruin's Shardpool.
 
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