Life Ore Death - DC Feruchemy [Young Justice]

If it's an allomantically viable metal, sure. Bad alloys/impure metals can cause the allomancer to be sick or potentially die if they're burnt (metabolised through channeling Preservation's power). If the metal stays in their system they can still get poisoned
 
Compounding is insane, especially given all the metals Renka has access to compared to the Lord Ruler. Nicrosil compounding seems especially terrifying, as it allows compounding of the ability to use allomancy or feruchemy.
 
at what point is an Allomancer able to burn a metal?
when its in the stomach? or can they burn it if they just put it in their mouths?
if its the latter, could an allomancer technically bite through something made out of a metal they can use?
 
at what point is an Allomancer able to burn a metal?
when its in the stomach? or can they burn it if they just put it in their mouths?
if its the latter, could an allomancer technically bite through something made out of a metal they can use?

The describe it as burning it in their stomachs, but they seem able to basically as soon as they've swallowed it.
 
Fun fact! Lerasium can also be theoretically alloyed to give individual Misting powers.

I've already decided most of who will get what, but if anyone wants to debate or guess, go wild. :D


does she permanantly get the ability, or does she have to keep eating it?
Lerasium will permanently give her Allomancy. Using Allomancy (on its own or for Compounding) will require her to swallow more of the normal metals as she burns them.

Compounding is not a permanent power increase it still requires consuming metal like any allomantic ability.
Compounding actively requires new metal. The ability to Compound will be permanent.

Does allomancy render you immune to the issues of swallowing hunks of metal?
Yes, if you burn them properly. If you sleep with unburned metal, you can get metal poisoning, but burning causes it to be harmlessly metabolized/consumed/transmuted/something-something.

Burning impure metals, however, can have other problems.

at what point is an Allomancer able to burn a metal?
when its in the stomach? or can they burn it if they just put it in their mouths?
if its the latter, could an allomancer technically bite through something made out of a metal they can use?
Not just in their mouths, no. No one has located a specific point in the esophagus where they get to start burning or anything, they just swallow and a second later they feel their reserves fill up.
 
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Fun fact: a female allomancer (mistborn or smoker, in this case) could burn a copper IUD.

I feel like Karen and/or Wendy will be likely candidates, more so Karen. Mainly because she's a hero in canon but hasn't hit that point in LOD yet and this might be how she becomes one in this continuity.
 
Oh man oh man oh man this is huge. I admit, I'd absolutely love to see Renka as a full compounder. It's not even crazy OP in DC as it is in her home dimension.

Still...I guess alloying it and passing out abilities to the team is the better story, and I'll probably thank you for it later. I still want Full Compounder Renka though.

Are there plans for Renka to get at least one compound element (brass?)? And could you give someone two Misting abilities using alloyed Lerasium?

Edit: how many Misting can you make with one bead anyway? Also, Renka is a good candidate for all the Enhancement metals.
 
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I'm going to skip the theorycrafting and speculation for now, because I really just want to compliment this chapter. The chat with Death was wonderful in so many ways, especially Renka's casual acceptance of this deity sitting down next to her, and Wally being a lighthearted release / comic relief from an otherwise heavy conversation. I am curious about Destruction, but there are so many pieces in here that could be foreshadowing and I don't know which ones are red herrings or just good worldbuilding. Renka offering her body to Death is perfectly in character, and I love it. I'm fascinated to think of what that might be setting up in the future. Finally, the shift of emotions when Renka examines her gift is so perfectly conveyed. I really bought into her panic at the end, felt sympathy with how overwhelmed she was by the choice in front of her and the apparent trust placed in her by Death.
 
Renka's backstory during Mistborn (with Mistborn spoilers!!)
Someone asked about Renka in Mistborn canon, and I thought the answer deserved cross-posting.

TheMonkeyTypewriter said:
So, I'm a dummy who only just finished Book 3 of Mistborn, and I have some spoilery-questions.
So, based on Renka's descriptions of things, especially relating immediately to the Hero of Ages/Emperor Venture, she very much made it sound like both of them were ruling, or at least had ruled for a time after the end of the world. To put it delicately, that's not the case, and Vin wasn't who Renka labelled her... unless I'm conflating Warrior Ascendant with Hero of Ages as a title.
My questions, I guess, are whether or not Renka more or less has the entire, accurate picture of events, and if she does, is this an AU from Mistborn before her insertion, or have I just massively misread things?

Thanks for your time! And seriously, spoilers, if you haven't read Mistborn don't crack it open.
Renka is from... functionally canon Mistborn. Canon Mistborn Trilogy, but less so when you read Kelsier's novella about his adventures after dying (though she would be in there briefly, because he talked her through her own Sliver experience). I don't believe she actually met Vin or Elend, but she... okay....

Below is a Map of the Final Empire as pre-Catascendre.

Renka hails from the Terris Dominance originally, near the border with the Western Dominance: her home village would probably be under the mountain illustration that's under the "S" in "Terris Dominance," and that's where she was born (her mother Tindwyl is a canon character) and raised for her early life.

She was about 15-16 when the Catascendre happened, and she originally left home around age 12, fleeing to the Western Dominance.

During the course of Mistborn Book 1 (the Final Empire), she had already fled, and she was running across the Western Dominance toward the sea.

Think of her as moving: #15 --> #13 --> #5 --> the coast in this time frame.

She briefly was on a (pirate) ship after that, but she got off at the Southern Islands because she wasn't comfortable with sailing.

Renka got her first Hemalurgic spike (steel) by ripping it out of a nobleman she killed in an impromptu slave rebellion on a Southern Island plantation.

The spike - and her then fleeing again when the Inquisitors come after her - should roughly coincide with the Lord Ruler's death, maybe a bit afterward.

During the Course of Mistborn Book 2 (Well of Ascension) and the time offsecreen between 1 & 2, she fled across the South Islands and briefly took to the sea.

Renka made land again right at that corner border between the Southern, Eastern, and Remote Dominances, and she went deeper into Eastern Dominance.

She briefly got led toward the Conventicle of Seran (#7) by Ruin -- and probably picked up her second spike along the way -- before more Inquisitors found her.

She then ran from #7 --> #11 --> ... depending on whether Ruin's perpendicularity is the Black Lake (#18) or in the Pits of Hathsin (#2) can change her path a little, but she had her experience in Ruin's Shardpool with three spikes about a week or so before Vin let Ruin free via the Well of Ascension.

Becoming the Sliver of Entropy left Renka... in really bad shape psychologically, and she couldn't interpret most of what she learned in that time, but she made her way to Luthadel once it was done and arrived about a month or less after the end of Mistborn 2 (Well of Ascension).

Although she arrived at Luthadel, Renka did NOT meet Vin or Elend personally (if I remember my notes right), because they were out doing the war (& scavenger hunt) thing that was still going on at the beginning of Mistborn 3 (Hero of Ages).

Renka did meet Sazed again, then she learned her mother was dead, gave Sazed a garbled account of what had happened plus what she vaguely understood that could corroborate what they knew of Ruin, and then she headed back to Terris Dominance to spread the word and face the music while helping people.

Renka spent most of Mistborn 3 (Hero of Ages) gathering refugees from the Terris Dominance and directing/leading them to safer places, especially back to Luthadel. She was actually on the outskirts of the city when Vin fought with 13 Inquisitors while Ascending to hold the Shard of Preservation, and she was moving to help when Vin did that super-Steelpush that flattened the palace, at which point Renka got knocked out by the rubble.

Some others dragged her under Luthadel to take shelter in the caverns, and that's where she was when Sazed became Harmony and fixed the world.

In the aftermath, for the three years or so between the Catascendre and going to Earth-16, Renka worked pretty closely with Spook and got a lot of psychological counseling from Harmony; people started calling her the Lady Feruchemist, much like Spook was the Lord Mistborn, and you could say that she was the Sazed to his Emperor Elend during that time.



 
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I am curious about Destruction, but there are so many pieces in here that could be foreshadowing and I don't know which ones are red herrings or just good worldbuilding.
I might be wrong as Oblo brings in lots of different comic stories into LOD (and does so brilliantly) but it could be more of an Easter egg of sorts.
Destruction abandoning his post occurs in the comics. Turns out he grew tired of his duties and tried to cultivate the other aspect of his being by working on his creative skills. Those more knowledgeable may be able to provide more details.
 
I might be wrong as Oblo brings in lots of different comic stories into LOD (and does so brilliantly) but it could be more of an Easter egg of sorts.
Destruction abandoning his post occurs in the comics. Turns out he grew tired of his duties and tried to cultivate the other aspect of his being by working on his creative skills. Those more knowledgeable may be able to provide more details.
Yep that's right. Specifically he quit some time between the birth of Christ and ww2
 
Ah pity, for a moment I though Death given a piece of Death Metal - sorry-not-really-sorry :D

On more serious thought, this was sublime - but I had a certain impression that Wally was not exactly all in the head during his experience. Understandable, really.

Good choice with Apathy - wracked my brain in similar vein for some time, but it not exactly fits general theme with known Domains.
 
You could argue Desire's counterpart is Satisfaction. If desire is yearning then scratching that itch could be its opposite. Ruin and Preservation work a little differently as Ruin is the natural fate of things sped up and Preservation is holding that back, progress vs stagnation. Cultivation on the other hand is change in a particular direction, true, but it's in an artificial direction.
 
I might be wrong as Oblo brings in lots of different comic stories into LOD (and does so brilliantly) but it could be more of an Easter egg of sorts.
Destruction abandoning his post occurs in the comics. Turns out he grew tired of his duties and tried to cultivate the other aspect of his being by working on his creative skills. Those more knowledgeable may be able to provide more details.
Which, if I remember correctly, he's just plan bad at. But it doesn't bother him, because he sees value in the attempt itself.
 
Septicimea - part 6
Life Ore Death
* May 10 [Artemis PoV]

I didn't know if Wally's parents' excuses for not visiting this evening – something about his job, her book club, and maintaining normalcy now that Wally had peaked out of the danger zone and should be waking up soon – were valid, or were just reasons for me to be there without needing to worry I'd run into them, but I was beyond caring.

'Other than hating myself for all but chasing them away because I'm too chicken-shit to sit down in the same room as them,' I reflected bitterly. I snarled under my breath, deleted the last two sentences of my essay about The Winter's Tale, and started typing again.

I kept glancing back at Wally, though, and the machines keeping him stable. In particular, the empty space where the one machine wasn't anymore. It was only for five minutes, but Ferris had taken Motherbox with her when she went to the bathroom. I had the call button at hand in case anything happened – not that I needed to be worried, because Wally had started recovering and he'd even woken up once or twice on Monday – but every second that ticked past without that magic computer at hand to help out made me twitchy.

My eyes fell on Wally's face, and I tried to not stare, but I just sort of timed out, watching him, until the door's lock beeped.

I spun around, reaching for a weapon, and Ferris stepped tentatively through, smiling.

"Wow," I said as she strode carefully across the tile floor and back to her seat. "It's still weird to see you up. No problems?"

"No problems," she agreed, putting Motherbox back on the bedside table. She wasn't quite up to standing uninterrupted for too long, much less any of the wild athletics involved in heroism, but she was walking on her own with only a cane for support, and that was awesome.

I went back to my essay, got out another four sentences, forgot how to cite in-text, and snapped the screen shut.

"I'm going to get a snack and stretch my legs," I said, too twisty in my stomach to stay here much longer. 'I can't bear to stay, but I don't want to go. That sounds like it should be some song lyric or something.' "Want anything?"

"Coffee, please," Renka said, scribbling a line in her notebook. I knew she was storing something, but it was anyone's guess what.

"Right," I said. I slipped out the door, into the hall, and found a stairwell with almost no one in it (almost everyone preferred the elevators). Hustling up and down a few flights of steps wasn't the worst way to burn of nervous energy, even if it echoed loudly, and I'd gone up twenty and down twenty-two in total before I decided to go down one more and hit the café.

Waiting in line, I got a text message from Motherbox: UNKNOWN METAHUMAN + BASELINE WAITING OUTSIDE DOORWAY.

I had sprinted out and over to the stairwell before even putting my cellphone away. I flew up the five flights of steps, encountering no one, and I had a knife in my hand as I exited into the hallway, slipped into my silent running, and got my breathing under control.

'I don't hear any fighting, so I bet whoever it is just has to wait outside for someone to leave or enter, without the key code.'

My attention on the few reflective surfaces around that could give me away, I slid to a silent stop and peered around the corner.

Both were boys, both were about Wally's age or a year older, and both looked pretty harmless.

One of them was chubby, brunette, and dressed nicely with a sweater vest over his dress shirt and tie. He was fiddling distractedly with some device, and I would've bet money that there was a hacker signal relay stuck somewhere on the door's lock that it interfaced with.

The other one was blonde and lanky, wearing headphones that probably weren't playing any music and an orange tracksuit that would've hidden him in plain sight superbly if it weren't so reminiscent of the prison duds I'd last seen him in.

My vision flashed red as I gripped my knife and realized why Cam and some other Shadows agent would be waiting outside of Wally's hospital room. For a moment, it was so, so easy and appealing to imagine slitting throats and digging blades into eyes.

Then I thought about the blood on my hands, and the red spilled across the hall's floor, and I took a breath.

'They don't know I'm here, Ferris is armed and aware of them, and chance are other Justice League members are on their way,' I reasoned, sliding back around the corner before Cam's wary eyes could turn in my direction. 'I need… I have Robin's Christmas gift,' I realized, hands sliding to the stealth utility belt around my waist, similar to what he'd given half the Team for the holiday. It wasn't filled with a tremendous amount of gears, but it had some foam and shock charge arrowheads along with medical supplies, and other things.

'Right,' I thought. 'I can do this.' But first, I pulled out my phone to text Ferris an update. We needed a plan.
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* May 10 [Icicle Jr. PoV]

I was on watch duty while Winslow – and seriously, I wasn't sure whether it sucked more that the guy was named Winslow, or that he wanted me to call him Toymaker, seriously – tried to hack the locks on our target's door. It wasn't hugely necessary, since we could wait for either a doctor to go inside or for anyone inside to come out, because it had to happen eventually, but he was ostensibly in charge of the operation and he'd bitch about me to my old man and the higher-ups if I jumped the gun, even if we succeeded.

Getting dad mad at me – 'Icicle, I shouldn't rely on family ties on the job, I call him Icicle, or boss.' – was the last thing I wanted, besides ending up back in Belle Reve. I still ached from what'd happened after he found out that fucker posing as Tommy Terror tricked me.

"Dude," I muttered, glancing around the halls again, "it's been a quarter-hour. What's taking you?"

"Whoever this is pretty clearly merits some higher security," Winslow grunted, and it looked like the little piggy was sweating from all that work, sitting there and pressing buttons. "I swear, there's an actual AI in the coding, changing things up on me."

'Whoa. I guess we got sent after someone big after all.' "All that, and no alarms or anything?"

"I'm good at what I do," he boasted, even though he really wasn't.

"Whatever," I muttered, and glanced out the window, because I was bored as fuck. It was sort of cool we got sent after someone important – 'Maybe dad and whoever he works with trust me more than I thought, sweet!' – but killing someone in a hospital bed wasn't exactly impressive. 'Not that I can… Come on, really? A conscience, now? Look, cold blood is supposed to be my thing,' I reminded my head, 'and it's not worse than… I mean, Dad has had to have done this stuff and whatever. I'll do it, I'll get it done, and I can move on to knocking over proper banks or bringing in big names who're cool to take down.' "Any I idea what this guy did to get us after him?" I asked.

There was a rush of wind down the hall from some open window somewhere, and a woman's voice answered me.

"Yeah, he survived," she snarled bitterly.

'Holy shit!' I spun around, creating ice claws and my armor, but a familiar face stopped me cold. "A-Artemis? Dude, wha-?"

"Hey Cam," she commands, "lose the claws or I take your teeth out. One. By. One." She flourished a knife threateningly.

"Artemis," I hissed, "the hell are you doing here? Are you on mission? What happened to Toymaker?" I asked, because he was gone.

She smiled, all teeth, and I abruptly remembered that being two years young, without powers, and a girl never stopped her before.

"I'm on the other side, moron. Now tell me what Icicle Junior is doing trying to break into my bedbound boyfriend's room, or I get unpleasant." I boggled wondering what the fuck was up, and was she a shape shifter, because the last I'd seen her she was in jail in Star City. "…I mean it," she threatened, closing in and grabbing me despite my ice. "I have had it up to here with the Shadows and assassinations, Cameron. Who the fuck sent you after my boyfriend, and why?" She tightened her grip on me. "Was it Sportsmaster?"

"Wait, you haven't heard?" I asked. "Actually, um, what do you mean 'the other siiiiyyyyyaaaaiiiiiaaaa-!"

She yanked me out of my seat, spun me, dragged me in a whirl, and pinned me to the wall one-handed faster than I could finish. Her face was inches from mine, her eyes were hard, and I couldn't see her other hand and what it was or wasn't holding.

"Star City. Green Arrow's new partner, an archer named Artemis, doofus. Now if you don't want me to personally hunt you down every time you try anything for the rest of your life, much less leave you in a hospital bed yourself, you will answer. My. Questions. Clear?"

"I get it, I get it!" I babbled, heart hammering because damn she was scary. Not the hot kind, either, just flat out terrifying.

"Good," she growled, pushing me harder against the wall. "What are you here to do?"

"It- it's a mission!" I complained, because she had to know what that meant. "No names, we just got a room number here, we-,"

"Who gave you that number? Was it Sportsmaster?!" she demanded.

"No! Haven't you heard? Sportsmaster's all persona non grata," I parroted back, still not certain what it meant. "He's AWOL!"

"He-? What?" she asked, not so angrily.

"He's gone. Whoever broke him out last time wasn't us, and he must've bought off the Shadows or something, because no one's chasing him and there was all this talk of some drugs or something, but he doesn't give us orders anymore 'sfar as I know!"

There was a brief little pause where I could feel my heart hammering while we didn't say anything. I decided not to try fighting.

She might actually kill me. She was good enough to, and mad enough to, and that'd be such a stupid way to go.

"Okay then. Who sent you here?" she asked again.

"Just- Some guy in the Shadows, or working with them. I don't know his name!" I complained. She gave me an inch more space.

"…You know if it was any science guy or anything? Some mad doctor?"

"I don't know," I insisted honestly. "Just got a call, Dad told me where to go, got the briefing, met my partner."

"Who is…?"

"Some robotics specialist called Toymaster. Maker, Toymaker! Said his name was Winslow. He's supposed to lead, but he sucks balls, he's the worst kind of geek. What happened to him, anyway? Hey, wait, did you say boyfr-? Urk!"

"Since you seem to be out of the loop," my old friend purred lowly, "let me enlighten you. I'm out, Cam. My mom got out of jail, Dad hasn't been big in my life since she kicked him to the curb, he got crippled, and I'm running with the Justice League now. Green Arrow." I felt a twinge of jealousy that she got to see her mom again, because mine was dead, had been for years, but more than that… "I have to say, whoever you're working with really doesn't respect you, Cam. This has been out since Roanoke, and they didn't say anything?"

"Roanoke?" I asked. "I've… heard a couple people mention that name. Place. I mean…." 'Vanishing didn't do me much good in my cell....'

"The Disappearance Disaster, Cam. I was part of the Team that stopped it. Killed one of you bosses' co-workers," she added bluntly.

"Oh. How'd the Justice League handle that?" I asked, sounding more mocking than was really safe right not. "They don't like you getting your hands dirty? Do they even know about Sportsmaster and Huntress?"

"They know," she assured me, but I wasn't sure I believed her. "Do you know what's going to happen now?"

My mouth went a little dry. 'Shit, do I risk an escape?' "You put me back in jail?" 'At least the "good guys" don't maim.' "Artemis, if I fail here, they're going to leave me," I half-begged, absolutely certain it was true even if no one had said so, because I got put on a no-stress assassination under a tool like Toymaker and falling from that low a spot would see me buried or whatever they called it. Burned.

Ignored.

"Cam, you came here to murder a good man in his hospital bed," she hissed, suddenly pressing back in. "If you got through that door, someone would've died. You try to tell me that's right, or not fucked up in the head, then I'm through with you. The people I have would never leave me to rot, and if you can't get out of the shitty situation you got yourself into, being used as a fucking pawn-!"

"Shut up!" I snapped, and tried to make more ice.

The world stopped spinning a few seconds later, even if my head didn't stop throbbing so fiercely.

"Thew fit me," I complained weakly.

"Don't be too angry. Artemis probably saved your life," some unfamiliar woman replied. I blinked at her as my eyes focused again.

'Let's see… Black, hair like a princess, and she's probably been stuck in that chair for a while, from her arm muscles.' "Who're you?"

She smiled pleasantly, glancing up from the data-pad screen she was reading. "You can call me Ferris. Hello, Cameron."

"I've heard that name before," I muttered blearily. 'Wait, shit.' "Y-you're that girl, the Justice League… Superman? Doctor Fate?"

"Superman, mostly," she said pleasantly. I looked around.

'I'm still in the same hall. The time… No, I don't remember what it was before. Toymaker is still nowhere, and I'm not arrested yet.' I checked my wrists and neck, but I wasn't restrained. 'I'm not arrested yet. I need to get out of here.' I got up. "Fuck the mission, I'm out."

"Stop," Ferris instructed, before I got two steps. It was accompanied by a mechanical click, and an electric whine, and I froze.

I turned back around. "Wh- who the hell let you bring one of those into a hospital?" I asked, eyeing the laser gun.

Ferris shrugged, keeping it aimed vaguely at me. "Justice League. It's not like our bodies and powers aren't deadly weapons."

"Okay, right," I agreed, because she had a gun trained on me. "So, I'm just going to-,"

"Do nothing unless I tell you to," she finished confidently. "I will shoot you, Cameron."

"You're bluffing. The Justice League doesn't kill people," I babbled, because that laser gun looked dangerous. I still didn't move.

"I quote: 'A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another, or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.' I am a wheelchair-bound woman protecting the life of a bedbound emergency responder volunteer who is also a minor. You are a known felon, you escaped from prison, and you have by your own admission come here to kill someone."

"O-okay, so it's legal, but so is execution and the League doesn't do that," I protested, trying to remember if everything she said fit.

Ferris – who was supposed to be associated with Superman, living icon of liberty, truth, and the American way – raised an eyebrow.

'This is a re~ally bad time for me to be remembering lectures on the American way being imperialist suppression of others,' I thought.

"I committed my first murder when I was twelve, Cameron Mahkent," she said. I tried to make sense of that. "In the years since, I have amassed a three-digit kill count, culminating most recently, I think, with Klarion the Witch Boy, who was considered a peer and equal by Ra's al Ghul himself. Ra's al Ghul, in case you were unaware," she added sardonically, "is currently under arrest after a raid by the Justice League, and awaiting trial. Mm. The Batman has said that Ra's al Ghul argues in favor of stricter measures, like assassination and blackmail, to bring world order." She shook her head despairingly. "I cannot understand how he and you find it difficult to realize what happens when we use such 'stricter measures' on you."

"Uhh…" She let me just stand there for a while. Finally I slumped. 'Gotta see where this goes.' "What do you want me to do?"

"Walk with me, Cameron," she invited. "Better yet, push my chair, please. We are going to walk the halls and talk about your life choices." To my surprise, she deactivated the blaster and put it in a holster on her wheelchair. "At the end, I am going to offer you a choice."

<Bleepleep, > chimed some device on her person, but she didn't check it for a message. She just waved me closer.

"What, seriously?" I asked, stepping over cautiously. She let me get behind her without a problem. 'I can just attack her.'

"We will talk, and I will explain why the best option you have – the one that will make you the most happy, the most successful in life – is to take my offer at the end. Spurn my generosity, and you will harm yourself most of all, I think. It costs you nothing but time."

"Yeah. Time for the Justice League to get here." When I said that, she turned and rolled her eyes at me. 'Drama queen,' I thought.

"Cameron, we picked up your attempts to penetrate our security more than half an hour ago. The Flash can run very quickly; both the Doctor Fate and the Martian Manhunter are based in Chicago," she corrected, and suddenly I was nervous again. "If you imagine we need to wait to take you into custody, then you have not thought about what had happened to Winslow."

That got to me. 'How the fuck did she know that name?' I gripped her wheelchair's handles tighter. "What's happening to him?"

"He will be getting a talk similar to what you are getting, I think, but from someone else," Ferris dismissed. "Mm. Push, please."

Uncertainly, I started to push her down the hall.

She indicated for me to turn right at the end, and I did, because why not? "So," I asked, "what's happening?" Her device beeped.

"Cameron Mahkent," Ferris recited, uninterested. "Son of Joar Mahkent, AKA Icicle Senior, and Denise Mahkent neé Jameson, AKA Akimbo. The former is loose and wanted after escaping during the mass breakout from Belle Reve; the latter was killed as part of League of Shadows in-fighting in 2004, despite having been largely inactive for the prior decade."

"Wait, what?" I stopped and leaned over her, demanding, "I was told my mom was in a crash with a drunk driver! What do you mean, in-fighting?" Ferris tilted her head back up, her weird eyes meeting mine without blinking.

"You did not know that Artemis helped to save the world on Roanoke. You did not know that you were being sent to assassinate a Justice League sidekick, earning the utter enmity of the League if you succeeded. You did not know that your mother was murdered by your father's co-workers because they worried he was becoming too successful. Cameron, why do you work for people who do not respect you?"

"They respect me fine!" I snapped. Ferris shrugged, and went back to occasionally tapping at her pad. "Is there a point to this?"

"The League of Shadows is full of traitors who will double-cross you for glory. Whatever you want in life, they will not give to you."

"Respect," I answered. "Power. They'll get me that."

"The moment you fail, they will turn on you," she said, twisting to meet my eyes despite the humming of the device in her pocket. "And, Cameron?" she finished softly. "You Can Always Fail."

I shivered slightly as her words washed over me, remembering all the times I wasn't good enough.

How I would never be good enough.

'Fuck that.'

"Yeah, and you've never failed?" I challenged aggressively. 'Don't grow ice claws, don't grow ice claws, not if Flash isn't gone yet.'

"Mm. The Justice League can fail, yes. When we fail, we support each other. When criminals fail, they betray each other."

"It's a dog-eat-dog world, and anyone pretending otherwise or trusting people is stupid," I spat, having heard it a million times.

"Do you trust your father? Did he trust your mother? Is that what happened?" she inquired. I tried to unravel that. "Mm. Left here."

"'Kay," I muttered only just realizing I'd started walking again at some point. 'What she said...' "Of course I trust my father." 'Moron.'

"Why? You are intelligent," she asserted, which made me flush a bit, "and you say that trusting people is stupid."

"That's people. He's family," I told her.

"Is he? You are relatives, but are you family?" Ferris challenged. "What will he do if you return after you failed. What did he do, after you failed at the attempted breakout from Belle Reve?" Her tone suggested she already knew a bit about it.

"I- that's different. I got tricked by that no good Tommy lookalike! Besides, it still got Strange into the Warden position and he broke us all out after ward," I spat, unwilling to have her think badly of me. I wasn't sure why I cared about her opinion of me, but I did.

Ferris inhaled, her left eye twitching. "Icicle Junior," she said slowly. "Did he give you that name, or did you make it?"

"I- he always called me junior, that's all." I muttered, because the answer was awkward.

"Junior, instead of your name. Mm. Cameron, how does your father feel about you?" she asked calmly.

"My father loves me. Even if I should be better," I admitted, uncertain why, but I felt like I could trust her. 'She won't laugh at me.'

"Sportsmaster loves Artemis. That did not stop him from abusing and abandoning her."

"He didn't abuse her!"

"Tell that to her scars," Ferris replied flatly, "and the nightmares of when he left her alone with a pedophile for a test."

'What the fuck?!' My stomach squirmed uncomfortably. 'That... That's bullshit, right? Or maybe it was not so long a... wait, back when....'

"Is she really on the other- on your side now, with the Justice League?"

"She is. She is happy, I think. She is doing well, and she is doing good. She would like you to make the same choices."

"Oh, like that'll ever happen," I scoffed, uncomfortable with the thought of it. "I'm a criminal, you know?" 'No turning back from that.'

"So is the Plastic Man," Ferris countered, and I vaguely remembered something about him being added to the Justice League. "The Justice League does not kill because people can change. You can reform. Mm. In particular, you are still a minor."

"Not where the law's concerned," I sighed. 'I thought Juvie sucked, but Belle Reve was waaaay worse. By a mile.' "Tried as an adult."

"Under coercion from your father and his criminal associates," she asserted. "You are lucky. Your birthday is in a month, and then you will be an adult. But. If you return now, you can still petition to be tried and sentenced as a minor, having been coerced by adults to be tried as an adult. If you co-operate, you may receive a light sentence and in a year or two at worst, you will be free again, I think."

"Who the hell would be stupid enough to believe that? 'Sides, the Shadows would kill me," I reminded her, twitching.

"Would your father let them?" Ferris asked. She touched my hand to stop me, in the middle of some empty hall, and she met my eyes again. "Mm. I am craning my neck, and it aches. Come around to my eye level, please," she invited. Anxiously, I did, crouching down.

"Now what?" I asked half-miserably. Which I shouldn't be, but I was. 'Would he let them hurt me? After all... After everything...?'

"If you had the life you wanted, what would it look like?" Ferris asked me.

'…Huh?' "Huh?"

"You want things, Cameron: power, respect, riches. What does your life look like, what do you imagine, when you have them?"

I bit my lip, closed my eyes, and obligingly dredged up my dreams of a better world. She had her hand on my shoulder; it felt steady.

"I want kids, and a wife," I said, omitting the 'hot' part. "Maybe my old man moving in with me; he's biologically fifty now, so if I get a sprog when I'm thirty he'll be in his sixties, right? He could stay back at the house, watch my kids, while I go out and get work done."

"What work? What do you want for a job?" she inquired.

I shrugged weakly. "Something cool? Security for a secret base, breaking into a secret base, fighting off the Justice League…."

"You are not interested in murdering other children's parents, kidnapping kids, trafficking other meta-humans, or making gruesome examples of people who refuse blackmail, then?" Ferris pressed. "Of their families?"

"Ew, no. That stuff sucks," I admitted, hoping I didn't sound like a wimp.

"Those are all crimes your father and Sportsmaster have committed," she informed me easily, and I cringed.

"My dad's too cool for that," I said weakly, looking away. 'No way. Come on! He wouldn't… would he?'

"Cameron." Gently, her fingertips touched my chin, and Ferris turned my head back to face her. "What I'm asking you to do is incredibly difficult. Thinking painful thoughts always makes me want to ignore them, or lash out. But. Your teenage years are the best time to re-evaluate your life and choices, and to decide who do you want to be as a person. Artemis speaks well of you, and I have faith."

I puffed up. "Of course she does, I'm awesome. Uhh… what are you asking me to do again?"

"Mm. I believe that you want to be like your father, so that you can earn his respect and affection, yes?"

"Yeah." I squared my shoulders and looked her dead in the eyes. "Screw that, I'll be better than him." 'Then he'll be proud of me.'

"I will not tell you that you are wrong to want him to care for you. However. Do you believe that he is proud of you now, or do you want him to become proud of you?" she inquired. "As an outsider, I can see you making a mistake that will sabotage getting his attention."

"Oh y-yeah," I challenged, trying to sound pissed and threatening. 'But she's had points so far... She seems trustworthy...' "What's that?"

"Imitating him."

I blinked. She didn't let me moved my head away.

"How does that make any sense?" 'How will he respect me if I don't prove that I'm tough like him?'

"What do you know about your grandfather, Cameron? Because I know Joar Mahkent never followed in his father's footsteps."

"I- Well, maybe my gramps was a tool," I said. 'Dad was on ice for like, thirty years, right? Grandpa would be way in the past.'

"That is emphatically not my point." She shook her head, and for a second I felt like I could breathe again. "Joar Mahkent created Icicle Senior. He defined it, and he will be better at it. He broke the mold, defied expectations, and did what he wanted. I may object to what it was that he wanted to do, but as Ollivander said in Harry Potter, he is great. Terrible, but great."

"Yeah," I said, a little moved. "That he is."

"Artemis followed her father's order for years. The first time he respected her was when she defied him, and fought back," Ferris told me, and I was a little happy that Arty had moved on and up in life. "There," she said sharply. "That feeling? That she has done well for herself, and you are impressed? That is what I mean. You will never inspire that feeling as long as you follow in your father's footsteps, because he did not become who he is by following in anyone's footsteps. You can do the same things he does even better, but he did them first."

"What am I supposed to do, then?!" I snapped, angry and miserable and 'God dammit I am not going to cry.'

I didn't even notice that my ice had spread out and crawled onto her, and she didn't react.

In hindsight, I would be very glad that the hallway was deserted.

"The man whom you were sent here to murder in his bed," she said, soft and threatening enough to inspire a jolt of fear and shame in me, "once told me about a word, 'gadara'. It is in a language where they have almost thirty words that mean 'enemy,' each with a different connotation. 'Gadara' is an honorable enemy, and it is among the highest of compliments. A father who has opposed his has son in some matter will greet the boy as an honored enemy before acknowledging their bond as father and son, because the former is greater praise.

"Any two fools can be related by blood, Cameron, but it takes a strong man to raise a son who is strong enough to rebel successfully, instead of following meekly and hiding in the father's shadow. If you want your father's respect, Cameron Mahkent – if you want your child to idolize you, rather than scoff at you and idolize your father – then you should not earn that respect, but take it. Rebel, and demand it."

"What, by joining the heroes?" I scoffed, but part of it was sounding appealing. Dad had hit me in the past, and I was scared to hit back… but I had seen him and Sportsmaster fight, like, lightly, for dominance, and they were pretty close friends as well as opponents. 'Rivals….'

"I do not know. However, you will, I think, have time to decide. It will be boring, at first, yes, but once you go through with that, then you will be free to see the world and to grow as you wish, and until you may meet your father's eyes as his equal. Perhaps you will even find that he must come to you, and seek your respect, because you have outgrown him."

'That… I kinda like the sound of that.' "What are you telling me?" I asked uncertainly. She shifted, and the ice on her cracked.

For a moment, she felt incredibly warm, and I pulled away, as though I were melting. Her hand chased after me, and grabbed me, and pulled me back to face her. The heat had been weird, but then it got weirder: I was already cold because of my powers, but to me she still felt colder than ice, and I shivered, chilled by her touch.

"I told you that I would offer you a choice, Cameron Mahkent. Here it is. You have two options before you, unless you choose to disregard me entirely and try to fight, or improvise. The first option is simple:

"I will let you go," she claimed. I blinked at her. "Despite your crimes, I will let you leave this building unmolested, and for twelve hours, no law enforcement will pursue you, provided you commit no other offenses. I will ignore and forget what brought you here, and that you came to kill a defenseless hero who is my friend on your father's orders. You will be free to go.

"What you do after that, and how you explain yourself to the Shadows, in your decision," she warned me.

"Cripes. Like that's not a scary thought," I moaned. Even so, I trusted her, despite all my shitty lessons saying not to. "…Or?" I asked.

"Or, you can roll me outside, and I will make a phone call," Ferris offered. "The law enforcement will come for you, and you will surrender gracefully, and you will co-operate. I will see that you receive a competent attorney, who will not be biased because you have powers, and you will tell xir everything. You will be tried as a minor," she promised, " and we will protect you from retribution by the Shadows.

"When you have served your shorter sentence you will be free to forge your own path in life. Artemis and I," she continued, "will even visit you at times, to ensure that you are not targeted and to give you time to talk over what you want to achieve when you are free."

"Freedom and vulnerability, or time and security. Mm. Perhaps it is a counterintuitive offer, considering the English saying about sacrificing freedom for security and ending with neither, but your freedom will be returned to you," Ferris said. "Going straight and serving your sentence – cooperating – is something your father never managed. You may do it, and then you will have your chance to grow, yes?"

"I-? I need to think about it." 'Fucking hell, going back to juvie? But I've been there, and its better than Belle Reve, and I'll age out….'

"Take all the time you need, provided you do not leave without answering me, please," Ferris said. She stroked her fingers along my face, across my lips, and I drew back at the chill.

"How are you doing that, anyway?" I wondered out loud. In my head, part of me was snarling, 'How would you stop me?'

"Mm. I am in a wheelchair, but I am the woman who killed Klarion the Witch Boy {Wicked}, peer to Ra's al Ghul. Right now, I am the most dangerous person in a two-mile radius. That is why I am not scared; you cannot possibly hurt me."

'Oh, now that sounds like a challenge.' "Oh, really?" I asked getting to my feet. My ice armor regrew; I wasn't going to hurt her, I knew I sort of owed her for even offering, but it made me feel more secure, and 'I think she needs a warning about getting cocky, like I did.'

"Really."

A wave of heat hit me, like rolling off from a furnace, and my ice armor sloshed into water. I staggered back as water hissed to steam, and then it was gone. When I looked, she was cold again, and frost was even forming on her clothes.

"Right, right, no fighting!" I pleaded, taking the hint. 'Holy fucking shit how did she do that? I need to know more about her ASAP.'

She smiled, hummed, and said nothing.

'Right. Right, she made me an offer, and she wants an answer. Shit.' I bit my lip, and I thought.

I paced around a little and I almost slipped in the water on the floor three times.

I muttered to myself about all of it.

I weighed my options.

I tried to imagine things.

I asked Ferris a few questions, but I didn't listen to her answers. I didn't even pay attention to the questions, not really.

Finally, I said, "Okay. Take me to the car, or make the call, or whatever. But I don't want to be there too long."

"That way," she instructed. "Elevator."

I pushed the wheelchair over, I pushed the button to go down, and I pushed her out the front door. Ferris had been tapping out a message on her data-pad the whole way, and getting responses, and as I squinted in the afternoon sunlight, a freaking limousine pulled up.

"Your ride," she said cheerfully.

"What, really?" I asked, and pushed her closer. 'How the fuck did this happen? I mean, what? Really, what?'

"Yes." She took the wheels in her hands again, and I walked around to hang uncertainly by the car door. "Cameron."

"Yeah?"

"It is going to be hard, but few things in life are easy. The more difficulty you have getting through this, the more impressive it is to succeed. You will have support. I don't know if you will stay, mm, stay 'reformed' after this, but you will have the choice," she told me.

"That's important?" I mumbled, and even I knew it came out petulantly. "...s'rry," I mumbled, because I cared about her opinion, I guess.

"It is the desire of Harmony to allow the most people possible to make the most choices possible. That said, you also have the choice to double-cross me, and to either flee or start fighting." She smiled pleasantly, without all that many teeth, which was encouraging, weirdly. "I do not make threats, Cameron. I don't know what I will do, if you betray my deal. I may not do anything.

"I may not need to," she finished. "Either way, only you can decide. Good fortune to you." She nodded, wheeled around, and went in.

When sliding doors closed behind her, I opened the door to the limo and got in.

"About time," said an irate and familiar voice. I swallowed hard. Across from me, Amanda fucking Waller sat waiting. Glowering.

'What the hell kind of pull does she have to get the Wall to come meet me?' I wondered nervously. "Uh. Hi, Warden?"

"Boy, I am not impressed. In fact, I am rightly pissed off to be seeing you here, but I've been told you have some information for me. Now listen up, because the lady in the chair is right: you get one chance. I am fat, black, and post-menopausal, and if you are in my way instead on board I will steamroller on over you. When the Belle Reve breakout happened, we caught three of the crooks within a few blocks of my house, where my kids live. I want to flay everyone involved in that fiasco, and you ain't seen scary 'til you seen me mad.

"You say Professor Strange organized the breakout at New Year's? I want to know when, why, and how," she demanded. "Start talking."

I stared.

I swallowed once, because my throat was hella dry.

The car started to move.

She folded her arms and eyed me.

I nodded.

"Right," I began. "Here's- Here's what I heard."

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This chapter (and a chunk this episode in general) was highly inspired by a scene in the Spitfire-focused fic From Beginning to End of the Middle, by bettercrazythanboring, which I will not link to because (WARNING) it breaks the two-clicks rule for explicit material.

If you're of age/okay with a T-rated story that connects to a side story with Mature content, take a look and give kudos or a comment, because it deserve a lot more love IMHO.


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It's still showing up fine on my page. Is it possibly your device or browser?

Well, if you click the link in Feruchemist in my footnotes/signature below, it'll take you to a wiki where you can find the Final Empire Map through a few links or a search pretty easily.
 
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Hooray, Amanda is back! And there she goes, in style.

I'm glad Toymaker didn't do anything too dumb, like plant bombs in the hospital "in case he had to make a quick getaway" or something. Artemis doesn't need that sort of hard decision on her mind right now (and Death doesn't need any extra work).

What else... Akimbo is a cool villain/assassin name. It'd be cute if Cameron here took that name as a new hero. Poor guy, I don't think he had a normal childhood at all.

And lastly I reckon that Renka had planned out her use of Anti-Life with her Motherbox. Renka respects her robo-buddy, and wouldn't spring something terrible on her like that. Hmm. It'd be terrific if Cameron echoed Renka's words in the future while (nervously) meeting Kid Flash for the first time.
 
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Great chapter, both for the Artemis POV and for the awesome "offer." I've also been hoping to see Amanda back again, so the quick cameo here was welcome, along with the hints that she and Renka continue to be on good terms.
'This is a re~ally bad time for me to be remembering lectures on the American way being imperialist suppression of others,' I thought.
This was brilliant, and I kind of want someone to voice that interpretation of Superman around Clark and get his response.

"He didn't abuse her!"
"Tell that to her scars," Ferris replied flatly, "and the nightmares of when he left her alone with a pedophile for a test."
Wow, Ferris. That was exactly correct, but gives a very different impression of what the test was about. I'm not sure if the misdirection was the point, or if she was taking an ambiguous approach since she didn't know how much Cam knew about Artemis' life, but it was a very Renka way to handle the conversation.

I am particularly curious about whether Renka used duralumin connection to facilitate this conversation. His compliance and his desire for her good opinion could be evidence of that, or they could just be a manifestation of his emotional need for approval and for Renka's natural charisma. I'm kind of hoping it's the latter and she didn't need Feruchemy to make the offer go smoothly, but I also can't see her neglecting an obvious tool at her disposal.
 
It's still showing up fine on my page. Is it possibly your device or browser?

Well, if you click the link in Feruchemist in my footnotes/signature below, it'll take you to a wiki where you can find the Final Empire Map through a few links or a search pretty easily.
I don't think so. Link I get when I click on it is:
and I get Error 404 - Page not found.

Are you getting another link, or is that one working for you?
I know how to find the map, it's just odd to go "map down below", and below is a broken link, i you know?
 
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