Life Ore Death - DC Feruchemy [Young Justice]

You know, I'm just saying, but... it's a little weird that the sword used by/named for the guy who murdered a monster and its mother in their own den to be powered by compassion, of all things. >.>

I don't even remember if he had a good reason other than monster-hunting, though it's likely, I do remember that Beowolf was a king and was probably defending his people. But. Still.

As if it matters what the legendary Beowulf was like.

DC has its own versions.

Pre-Flashpoint, he ate of the zumak fruit which makes him strong enough to fight Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter at the same time.

Post Flashpoint there's a Beowulf who is a time traveller from the future, but I presume he's just named after the legendary figure, instead of DC claiming that the legend of Beowulf is actually about a supersoldier from a post apocalyptic future. Although with DC one can't exactly discount the possibility.
 
Right so when Kaldur tried to draw it, he made himself think/remember of pulling a Shall not pass moment against Ocean Master, and act of determination, and got green electricity. Also, perhaps the sword is not about morality, but about drive and purpose, useful traits of a warrior. Meaning any doubts what so ever, and it cannot be used.
 
The writing in this chapter is really well done. The voice/tone noticably shifts when Renka taps and stores different mental attributes, and the feel of the narration conveys just as well as the descriptions that she is clearly hacking her own brain.

Also, if it was anyone besides Batman I would yell at Ferris for making up a covert sign language on the fly and expecting someone else to not only understand but implement her message tactically. Seriously, "tapping my armrest once" means "I've got everything handled except for the hostages, relying on you for extraction" ? I don't see how that could possibly communicate what she's trying to say.
 
I presume that the tapping had the effect of pointing at the hostages on the floor. Even if the exact purpose isn't clear it should be enough to draw Bat's attention to them.
 
*THWOOOM!*
{Piercing One To Another}
Boom tubes made by a Fatherbox sound like they use similar methods to Travelling with saidin. (the male half of the One Power from the Wheel of Time). I'm not sure what Motherbox tubes will be like though, saidin Gateways work by pinching the Pattern together and boring a hole through whereas saidar Gateways work by creating a similarity in the Pattern on each side and stepping through to your destination. Perhaps {Linking The Paths Together} (but less clunky sounding)
 
Boom tubes made by a Fatherbox sound like they use similar methods to Travelling with saidin. (the male half of the One Power from the Wheel of Time). I'm not sure what Motherbox tubes will be like though, saidin Gateways work by pinching the Pattern together and boring a hole through whereas saidar Gateways work by creating a similarity in the Pattern on each side and stepping through to your destination. Perhaps {Linking The Paths Together} (but less clunky sounding)

If they are different, it's Oblo being imaginative.

Boom tubes aren't parallel inventions by both the New Gods of Apokalips and New Genesis, but an invention of Metron, who doesn't actually feel loyalty to either faction.

He traded the technology to Darkseid.

Or at least in New Earth continuity.
 
The writing in this chapter is really well done. The voice/tone noticably shifts when Renka taps and stores different mental attributes, and the feel of the narration conveys just as well as the descriptions that she is clearly hacking her own brain.
Yes! Thank you for confirmation, I was hoping I'd get that right.

Showing off that it was affecting her thoughts was a trick-and-a-half, so I am glad someone noticed it.

This is also going to be one big reason why she doesn't end up using the Sword of Beowulf again.

She should have been able to finish that fight in three seconds and cut them down. She was too busy feeling compassion to do that.

So while it served it's purpose here, she's writing it off as both damaging to her recovery and an unpleasant mind-screw.

This was amazing. I have loved this fic, but I have somewhat been losing interest because we see so little of Renka. This chapter really renewed my enthusiasm. Thanks.
This. This is a very important comment for me to hear. Thank you! Don't hold back about this stuff in the future; I'm hard to offend.

A word of warning: there's going to be an episode or two where she's very scarcely present, to focus on Team interactions without her. So while I wouldn't say you should take a hiatus, you might not like mid-December all that much.

Personally, I prescribe writing some omake as a cure for Renka withdrawal. ;) They may not be canonized, but that doesn't mean they aren't nice for everyone, and I will happily thread-mark them for easy access.

I was sort of assuming it's because her aura is just that strong, especially with her having deliberately tapped it earlier to break the firewalls in the Zeta system.
In point of fact, her aura is weaker now than earlier. She used up the energy it consisted of in breaking that stuff, and has yet to replenish it.

You know, I'm just saying, but... it's a little weird that the sword used by/named for the guy who murdered a monster and its mother in their own den to be powered by compassion, of all things. >.>

I don't even remember if he had a good reason other than monster-hunting, though it's likely, I do remember that Beowolf was a king and was probably defending his people. But. Still.
It's not about compassion. It's about having a 'pure heart.' Not a good heart, Harm was pure evil. A untroubled laser focused heart.
It's not powered by compassion, or greed, or hate, or love... not in the sense that it feeds off of them, or anything.

Those are just prerequisites to potentially be "pure of heart" enough to activate it.

Think "car key to fit the ignition" rather than the gasoline that the engine runs on.

Also, if it was anyone besides Batman I would yell at Ferris for making up a covert sign language on the fly and expecting someone else to not only understand but implement her message tactically. Seriously, "tapping my armrest once" means "I've got everything handled except for the hostages, relying on you for extraction" ? I don't see how that could possibly communicate what she's trying to say.
It was the the same hand she had just signaled "incomplete plan" with, immediately following that signal, meaning he would still be watching for any other hand gestures about this incomplete plan.

She wasn't sure, but given that she didn't have any way he could see she'd be able to grab the hostages, she was trusting Batman to figure out 'Ferris has some fight or distraction handled, but is hesitating because the hostages are in the way'.

Boom tubes made by a Fatherbox sound like they use similar methods to Travelling with saidin. (the male half of the One Power from the Wheel of Time). I'm not sure what Motherbox tubes will be like though, saidin Gateways work by pinching the Pattern together and boring a hole through whereas saidar Gateways work by creating a similarity in the Pattern on each side and stepping through to your destination. Perhaps {Linking The Paths Together} (but less clunky sounding)
If they are different, it's Oblo being imaginative.

Boom tubes aren't parallel inventions by both the New Gods of Apokalips and New Genesis, but an invention of Metron, who doesn't actually feel loyalty to either faction.

He traded the technology to Darkseid.

Or at least in New Earth continuity.
I will say that Boom Tubes are comparatively new as far as New God technology goes. Like, less than a thousand years old.

Maybe even only two or three centuries old. I remain undecided.
 
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Speaking of Mother boxes

So is Halo going to appear in this fic?
 
It's not powered by compassion, or greed, or hate, or love... not in the sense that it feeds off of them, or anything.

Those are just prerequisites to potentially be "pure of heart" enough to activate it.

Think "car key to fit the ignition" rather than the gasoline that the engine runs on.
So, apologies if I misunderstand, to use the sword clarity of purpose/drive is needed. i.e. Pure.
 
This. This is a very important comment for me to hear. Thank you! Don't hold back about this stuff in the future; I'm hard to offend.

A word of warning: there's going to be an episode or two where she's very scarcely present, to focus on Team interactions without her. So while I wouldn't say you should take a hiatus, you might not like mid-December all that much.

Personally, I prescribe writing some omake as a cure for Renka withdrawal. ;) They may not be canonized, but that doesn't mean they aren't nice for everyone, and I will happily thread-mark them for easy access.

I should mention that, while I prefer stories that focus on a central character, as opposed to an ensemble cast, that does not mean that my preference is 'better' in some way. I happen to not enjoy the Song of Ice and Fire novels because they constantly shift focus and go on tangents which I don't care about. This does not make the books any less well written, and George Martin shouldn't shift his focus. It is just personal preference.

So I will say, please write what you are inspired to write. I enjoy your story, I just vastly prefer it when it is from Renka's point of view. She is a truly interesting, unique character, and I already know all of the other characters in the story (or, at least, some versions of them).

On the omake note; I may do something with it, but I am terrible at ever following through on ideas that I have, so we'll see.
 
Honestly I trend towards the other side of things. Compared to the other young justice fics I read having multiple perspectives in this one is refreshing.
 
So I noticed, on a reread of the most recent installment, that Renka didn't just tap compassion when she hacked the sword, she also stored identity. Which leaves me wondering if the hack would have worked if she had only been tapping compassion.
 
I should mention that, while I prefer stories that focus on a central character, as opposed to an ensemble cast, that does not mean that my preference is 'better' in some way. I happen to not enjoy the Song of Ice and Fire novels because they constantly shift focus and go on tangents which I don't care about. This does not make the books any less well written, and George Martin shouldn't shift his focus. It is just personal preference.

So I will say, please write what you are inspired to write. I enjoy your story, I just vastly prefer it when it is from Renka's point of view. She is a truly interesting, unique character, and I already know all of the other characters in the story (or, at least, some versions of them).

On the omake note; I may do something with it, but I am terrible at ever following through on ideas that I have, so we'll see.
Oh, don't worry, I will. But her being less directly active is going to be a thing, and there's a balance I'm trying to hit.

It's my balance, not yours, but opinions on how well I'm hitting it may sway me in that direction a bit, because juggling everyone is tough but so is just showing what she'd know.

Are they even finished with the beta testing? It would explain the bugs. :p
Not to New God standards of "finished," which is why the Light was experimenting with their ally's new delivery system.

New Genesis is more advanced than Apokolips, although only by a bit.

Speaking of Mother boxes

So is Halo going to appear in this fic?
Maybe, because I like what little I've seen of her, but not in the same way/as the same iteration.

I will say that New God & human hybrids are not too uncommon on Earth, and we will be meeting several people like that.

So, apologies if I misunderstand, to use the sword clarity of purpose/drive is needed. i.e. Pure.
A little more than that, but essentially.

So I noticed, on a reread of the most recent installment, that Renka didn't just tap compassion when she hacked the sword, she also stored identity. Which leaves me wondering if the hack would have worked if she had only been tapping compassion.
Renka doesn't know, and rather wanted to not risk it.
 
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Well, Ruin is known for being pretty single-minded. Does that count as purity of purpose, for the sword's magic system?
 
I will say that New God & human hybrids are not too uncommon on Earth, and we will be meeting several people like that.

If you want some of the lesser known examples- Wyldheart. Found on Earth as a baby, ala Superman, raised by an evil genetics company that wants to usher in transhumanity to cure their genetic disease that is funded by Vandal Savage, but is both ignorant of their evil and was raised lovingly by the evilutionary biologists. Knows she's an alien but not what species until she encounters a motherbox.

Sister Sunlight. Basically a faith healer, thanks to her power to heal people. Essentially a saint in behavior, despite being from Apokalips.

Twilight. Her mother escaped with her from Apokalips centuries ago, became a naytheist when her sister died, her sister was reincarnated as basically one of the DC equivalent to the Spice Girls. Ironically also a healer, so that's two healers from Apokalips that live on Earth.

And if you want New God hybrids to be common, there's always Aurakles, Earth's first superhero. Was never specifically said to have been turned into a New God, but he got his powers from the New Gods, was given his own fatherbox, and his powers are superhuman strength, resistance to injury, and immortality, ie powers that are supposed to be extremely common among the New Gods. And Bulleteer is his great to the Nth power descendant. So it seems to me that making him a neanderthal turned New God isn't really much of a leap, especially since more than one New God was born human.
 
Even A Man - part 15
Life Ore Death
* December 6 [Overview]

It was past midnight in the surface world, and Ocean Master felt it unwise to remain much longer.

"Begin lowering the Cordon, and prepare to depart," he instructed a handful of oceanic sprites he had conjured. 'This mission has failed,' he did not say out loud, but only in his head. It was important to never imply failure before any underlings. He remained in the mountain base's main room, off the Zeta Tube bay that he was unable to utilize, and he activated his communicator, waiting.

The Cordon – a set of linked sorceries used to encircle an area and raise wards that would isolate it – had the unfortunate effect of severing all communications, including his own. The late and unmourned abomination's chaos magic might have pierced through, but Ocean Master was at least slightly pleased that no other caster the Light could recruit had that efficacy, as yet; Atlantean magic remained supreme.

<Status? >

Ocean Master was rather annoyed that the caveman would use such a tone with him, but deigned to not display it.

"The woman appears to have departed from the mountain prior to our arrival." Ocean Master met Savage's frown with his own.

<…Unexpected. That does not fit her projected pattern of activity. Did your wards tip her off? >

"Unthinkable," Ocean Master declared. In truth, the Cordon had been set to restrict communications first, because their data from Project Shaft indicated that she was less than competent with surface technology – an excusable and exploitable weakness in an otherwise valuable well of knowledge, inferior though her breeding may be, given the clumsy complexity of surface designs – and would more likely interpret the dropped signals as her own mistake, rather than the precursor to an attack.

He had, of course, known all along that this was a possible outcome, but Ocean Master had allowed the others to sway him in his approach, to the loss of this valuable scholar. 'For the moment. In time, I expect she will see the Light,' he resolved, 'and serve my aims well.'

<What of our secondary goals? >

"The security records and blueprints are downloaded to Brain's device," Ocean Master said, emphasizing his ostensible partner's name slightly.

<Good. >

Despite what he had repor- what Ocean Master had informed Savage of, he was privately annoyed at his uncertainty. Surface world technology was clumsy, and in spite of following the instructions exactly, he was less than certain that the download had functioned as intended.

"My men could not locate too great a number of other valuables-," 'No doubt because truly powerful artifacts are stored elsewhere, as I could have told you, were you willing to listen.' "-but I retrieved one example that matches the described characteristics of her magic."

<…Very well. This was only an attack of opportunity, for the most part. You had best pull out. >

Behind his regal mask, Ocean Master raised one eyebrow at the caveman's audacity, ordering him to do exactly what he already was doing. He let the comment slide, however, generously writing it off to L1's advanced age.

The communication ended. Ocean Master slid the device back into his belt, and then turned to walk away, back to the good water.

When he was close to his escape, however, heard the sound of an explosion, and shouts of combat from his men.

'Clearly,' he realized with frustration, 'Sportsmaster and Ivo were insufficient to delay and distract the children. Pitiful.' He dipped the prongs of Neptune's Trident into the ocean waters, and felt it flow with the hum of thrumming power. Circulating the magic force, he stood ready.

With a crash, the three servants who had accompanied him into this place were through the doorway, sealed door and all. Luthor's bloviated Project Kr followed, fists clenched, and Ocean Master caught him in the chest with a bolt of the Blue's power turned to lightning.

The clone flew through the door he had entered by in a way that would have been satisfying, were Ocean Master not seething over the incompetence of his men. "Idiots! Do not allow children to so inconvenience you," he roared. Nearby items of machinery floated into the air, and then threw themselves upon him, but with a shockwave from the Lord Earthshaker's stave he rent them apart.

"Ocean Master!" Young Kaldur'ahm's shout was accompanied by a water whip, which was easily disintegrated.

"Very good, gill-child," he deadpanned. "You know how to recognize your superiors. Now if only you would obey them. Begone!"

He called forth a roiling wave from water at his back – a mere shadow of the Trident's power, but enough for this. It crashed forward toward the children and – more importantly – over his own men. Seizing control of the currents, Ocean Master pulled his subordinates into the ocean's waters and led the egress to their waiting conveyance, freezing the water behind them to inhibit pursuit.

Inside a sealed container beside the communicator on his belt, a metal earring in a vial of blood clinked softly as he moved.
 
Ah the classic "you thought the bad guys were bullshit before? Well now they are even more bullshit but the hero is still crippled" trope.
 
On reflection, this is not quite as awful as it first appears. The trait in this spike is atium allomancy, and Renka still has a monopoly on Earth 16's very limited atium supply. There is still the horror of people learning more about hemalurgy, and the horrid loss this is for Renka, but the most likely thing for someone to gain by actually using the earring is psychic vulnerability, making telepathic attacks more potent.

Silver linings, I guess? Depending on how things play out it's possible that whoever tries to use her magic against her will be handing Renka the exact opportunity she needs to take them down.
 
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