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Libra's Lament, a Magical Girl Quest [Complete]

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justinkal said:
Really, really strange to have personal abilities with the same names as weapon/spell abilities but completely different effects.
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...I made her rather early.
Aside from that, Angels also have a Spell called Judgement. ...in the end, I do not see the need to change the names for someone who is dead.

Additionally... how do people feel about those sheets? Should I take them away from the front page or leave them there for completeness' sake?



Anyway, in regards to Primeval Earth being UD-aligned... you should be careful in assuming why that is. As always.
 
Naron said:
Typos fixed.

...I made her rather early.
Aside from that, Angels also have a Spell called Judgement. ...in the end, I do not see the need to change the names for someone who is dead.

Additionally... how do people feel about those sheets? Should I take them away from the front page or leave them there for completeness' sake?



Anyway, in regards to Primeval Earth being UD-aligned... you should be careful in assuming why that is. As always.
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Keep them there with a Deceased mark at some part of their sheets. Except Abyss Knight. Need to make that a shocker.

As for Primeval Earth, I'll be honest, you could be fucking with us and the UD-aligned one may be dead.
 
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DarkKing98 said:
Yeah, no. From what I may, inaccurately, remember of the beginning, humanity kind of scared off both fronts of UD and UL because of WW 3. And people change allegiances all the time according to their moral code.

So basically, I don't see this as anything necessarily bad.
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Haha, no. Bianca fought in the Eternal War. In the shifting battlelines of the UL and UD.
 
Naron said:
Typos fixed.

...I made her rather early.
Aside from that, Angels also have a Spell called Judgement. ...in the end, I do not see the need to change the names for someone who is dead.

Additionally... how do people feel about those sheets? Should I take them away from the front page or leave them there for completeness' sake?



Anyway, in regards to Primeval Earth being UD-aligned... you should be careful in assuming why that is. As always.
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Spells are a bit different. It's an apples to oranges scenario. This is abilities vs abilities.

I'd say leave them in the front page. If you run out of space later, you can always stick the deceased in a collective spoiler tag.


And yeah, of course be careful about that. I'm just trying to help brainstorm theories that look at things from more angles.
 
OriginalName said:
The optimist in me says "The UD is not necessarily Evil and the UL is not necessarily Good".
However every other part of me says "WW3 was only the beginning."
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Why should it be?

ShadowAngelBeta said:
Primeval Earth was UD aligned. Less of a worry than it could be, but...

UD and UL are seperated by philosophies primarily. UD is... Fuck. I forgot how it was put. One's kind of... "Peace through Power" and the other is "Power through Peace"? The UD conquers and takes and rules because it has power, and the UL includes and allies and builds power from the parts or something.

I'm probably mangling this.
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Demons dont need to be bad and Angels dont need to be good. They are just 2 fractions who oppose each other.


strauss said:
There goes like half of the magical girls left. And with how and when this happens I can't help but think it will create more problems than it solves too.

I will be really amused if it turns out Abyss Knight had the right idea.
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It solves the problem of Yggdrasil. Maybe it isnt the best outcome, but that doesnt made Abyss Knights ideas and plans rightous or right in some way.
I feel somehow sad for Dragon, and the Ruin-Sisters. Poor Eva and Rico when they will learn about it.

And:

justinkal said:
Alternatively, perhaps Primeval Earth has a status similar to the WEAPONs in CWMGQ and was sent to the UD by Gaia as a double agent. Because Gaia dislikes both the UD and the UL.
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The UD and UL are already scared of humanity and we already learned that all of them somewhat fear Bianca. I think it is more like:
Bianca used them to train and gather strength and therefore helped them and most likely got a deal with them. As long as they stay away from Earth they wont interfere within their war anymore. And if they come to Earth Bianca will use her Equalizer.
 
So now that one of main conflicts (Kibo vs Yggdrasil) just got obliterated by an unknown magical girl's rampaging weapon after she was killed(where was it in the fight against Nightmare Child) wheres the plot going? Cause I though the fight against Yggdrasil's planned genocide would take at least another few in game months(weeks at the least). Now we have 1 new plot thread(Bianca) while destroying another(potentially 2 cause Grey Phantasm's dragon is monstrous to all but high end MGs). Anyway I look forward to see where we're going now.

Also an actual question. Are "Avatar of the End" and "A Bringer of the End" the same thing or different? If the former would Grey Phantasm have more plot relevance than being a clean-up tool to use on Yggdrasil if we had gone with Strength? If the latter was there anyway we could have met GP before Nightmare Child killed her?
 
Dragou said:
It solves the problem of Yggdrasil. Maybe it isnt the best outcome, but that doesnt made Abyss Knights ideas and plans rightous or right in some way.
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Let's be honest. Abyss Knight has had it a LONG time coming. You do not make a terrorist organization and get away with it scot free. Probably not the end she was expecting, and definitely not the one she deserved, she deserved a more ego breaking death, but still, what ultimately happened was an inevitability.
 
Dragou said:
Demons dont need to be bad and Angels dont need to be good. They are just 2 fractions who oppose each other.
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Well, yes. That is very well known. UD and UL are far more than just Demons and Angels though.

I think the Dark Star guys are out and out Evil, and evil, though. Saying they are just two factions that oppose each other is friggin silly though when we very well know Why they fight from Crystal. Which I just mangled explaining granted, but I got the point across I hope.
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
Well, yes. That is very well known. UD and UL are far more than just Demons and Angels though.

I think the Dark Star guys are out and out Evil, and evil, though. Saying they are just two factions that oppose each other is friggin silly though when we very well know Why they fight from Crystal. Which I just mangled explaining granted, but I got the point across I hope.
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I mean, consider that Naron genocided the two factions who actually started the war and made it something other than the old Angels vs Demons thing. As backstory.
 
DarkKing98 said:
she deserved a more ego breaking death,
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Do you remember how she awoke to being an MG, cause if you do my only response to this is "What the fuck is wrong with you."
LostDeviljho said:
I mean, consider that Naron genocided the two factions who actually started the war and made it something other than the old Angels vs Demons thing. As backstory.
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He did? ... You're right. This spin-off does get a little head-tilty at times.
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
Do you remember how she awoke to being an MG, cause if you do my only response to this is "What the fuck is wrong with you."
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If you are REALLY trying to justify attempted genocide by 'Something horrible happened to me and I view all humans as scum for how Magical Girls are treated' then I also have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with you as well.
 
Please keep it civil. And what i wanted to say was: Just because Bianca fought together with the UD (which she isnt part of in this point of time) doesnt mean something bad will arise because of that. It is even possible that something really good will happen because of this and in the same way something bad can happen if she would have been part of the UL.

That is basically her past, nothing more and nothing less. But somehow nearly all of you think know that Bianca is a bad person and something bad will happen. Despite that it was stated that she want to do what is best for the world (humans AND MG).
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
... Read the specific part I quoted of your statement. -_-
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Yes, I said she deserved a more ego breaking death. I see how I fucked up a tiny detail. I do not fully believe she deserved death. But fucking hell if that over glorified temper tantrum wasn't fueled partially by ego. There's a reason why Bianca called it a temper tantrum in the first place.

Is what happened to Abyss Knight horrible? Yes. Is the treatment of Magical Girls bad? Yes. BUT. But, that did not justify her methods. Did not justify all those lives lost. All those she has hurt and killed with no sense of guilt. The woman went to fucking far the moment she killed innocent people out of that spite.

I am saying, if she were to get killed, her death should have had her realized just what she truly did. But what happened, was that she died scared. Scared, powerless, and her only regrets were probably not finishing the job, and getting killed.

Dragou said:
Please keep it civil. And what i wanted to say was: Just because Bianca fought together with the UD (which she isnt part of in this point of time) doesnt mean something bad will arise because of that. It is even possible that something really good will happen because of this and in the same way something bad can happen if she would have been part of the UL.

That is basically her past, nothing more and nothing less. But somehow nearly all of you think know that Bianca is a bad person and something bad will happen. Despite that it was stated that she want to do what is best for the world (humans AND MG).
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You raise a VERY good point. Along with the fact that Bianca is aligned as an ally to us. And considering how the girls are? We know that she'd be removed if she didn't have the best intentions for everyone she can help. After all,

She tried many times to save Abyss before.
 
DarkKing98 said:
But fucking hell if that over glorified temper tantrum wasn't fueled partially by ego. There's a reason why Bianca called it a temper tantrum in the first place.

Is what happened to Abyss Knight horrible? Yes. Is the treatment of Magical Girls bad? Yes. BUT. But, that did not justify her methods. Did not justify all those lives lost. All those she has hurt and killed with no sense of guilt. The woman went to fucking far the moment she killed innocent people out of that spite.
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I never even said anything about this part, so you're just shouting at the wind honestly.
 
nkd1325 said:
So now that one of main conflicts (Kibo vs Yggdrasil) just got obliterated by an unknown magical girl's rampaging weapon after she was killed(where was it in the fight against Nightmare Child) wheres the plot going? Cause I though the fight against Yggdrasil's planned genocide would take at least another few in game months(weeks at the least). Now we have 1 new plot thread(Bianca) while destroying another(potentially 2 cause Grey Phantasm's dragon is monstrous to all but high end MGs). Anyway I look forward to see where we're going now.

Also an actual question. Are "Avatar of the End" and "A Bringer of the End" the same thing or different? If the former would Grey Phantasm have more plot relevance than being a clean-up tool to use on Yggdrasil if we had gone with Strength? If the latter was there anyway we could have met GP before Nightmare Child killed her?
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So... I am not entirely sure why you think going directly against Yggdrasil would have been that important. The faction got along well with Kibo, even though they disagreed on their methods.

That aside, if you look at Grey Phantasm's sheet, you will notice something very important.
She is immortal for as long as her dragon lives. And it revives after half a day if killed.

In other words, keeping her weapon far, far away from herself is actually the better strategy. Anyone but Nightmare Child she could have swarmed with her Dark Spawn.

Point is, Grey Phantasm was a final boss. Not necessarily your final boss, though. She was there and her plan was detrimental to humanity, so Gaia and Bianca had her removed.


Keep in mind, everyone: not every occurence is a part of your story. You just went into the perspectives of three people that had little to do with the twins' journey.
 
Jrin said:
Is this humanity worth in the end?
Not happy about what happened.
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I am not that happy either, because I liked the Ruin-Sisters somehow. It is done now and we need to live with it.
What happened to Abyss Knight is something that would have happened anyway someday. Naturally she wasnt beyond the point of saving, but to do that wasnt enough time and therefore we couldnt do it. Saving lives isnt something we should judge if it is worth or not.
Bianca reached the conclusion that Abyss Knight needed to die. She couldnt save Abyss Knight and she felt really bad about it. Normally you cant save everyone and everything. But to try is always worth it.
 
I wonder what will happen to the remaining Yggdrasil girls. There should be 4 remaining right? The 2 momento's, Igni and Soul Queller (who i think wasnt actually part of that organisation?).

EDIT: Funny enough they are all girls that got on well with the twins.
 
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