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Toboe said:
You are free to create your own party that is willing to coalition with both Seekers and anti-Seeker-parties.
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I am genuinely curious at how the anti-seeker parties will even be able to govern considering their wildly contradictory goals, that none of them are bigger than the other, and that the only thing they seem to agree on is 'not Seekers'. Usually in a parliamentary system the biggest party courts smaller parties to cross the 50% threshold, advocating for coalition member goals in exchange for their support.

But the broad tend orthodoxy front has mutually exclusionary goals. If you want interesting, watch the conservatives try to govern effectively.
 
Dezron said:
And of course radical plan wins, what a surprise./s

Boring.

Time to make situation more exciting then.
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By purging the radical and outlawing their platform? Good idea, I can see no way this could possibly go wrong. It certainly won't set any sort of precident for purging dissidents that will cause problems in the future.
 
Toboe said:
You are free to create your own party that is willing to coalition with both Seekers and anti-Seeker-parties.
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I mean, at that point I seem likely to just split the vote in a boring manner. If I knew that there'd be some people currently voting for a total lockout that would switch to not a total lockout, then I'd create it.

Magus Explorator said:
send it to my PM, tho most of the "Big stuff" is rather slow because of the nature of the setting ( and a lot of variables which I will roll up in actual dice), the smaller local stuff is faster.
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Also, how are people supposed to vote for a plan with secret outreach if they don't know what the outreach action is?
 
I'd be completely down with a moderate party

Tbh I don't get this cordon santiare, why is everyone so obsessed with opposing us I'm down to coalition
 
The way I see it Seekers have a hard time making coalitions because they put themselves in a corner with ideas that most other current parties (neutrals, other radicals, orthodox) find hard to work with. And that means that while they say they are open to work with everyone in reality its not that true. Fortunately for them they get a lot of votes, so its not really a problem.

And please dont start screaming for coup conspiracies, I highly doubt QM would allow that (expecially with just one Outreach)
 
Polenta said:
The way I see it Seekers have a hard time making coalitions because they put themselves in a corner with ideas that most other current parties (neutrals, other radicals, orthodox) find hard to work with. And that means that while they say they are open to work with everyone in reality its not that true. Fortunately for them they get a lot of votes, so its not really a problem.

And please dont start screaming for coup conspiracies, I highly doubt QM would allow that (expecially with just one Outreach)
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I dont see any other reason for a secret outreach. If people have a thing they want to do, then they should just list it.
 
As a supporter of the most important topic (the well-being of our military), I dont think the cordon sanitaire is that bad.

At least it ensures adequate representation for the matters of military
 
Professor Vesca said:
I dont see any other reason for a secret outreach. If people have a thing they want to do, then they should just list it.
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Well, I dont really know why they would use it as of now (I certainly dont feel the need for it) but I trust the QM would not let a minor party (radical or ortodox) manage to coup the government in a single turn (or even 3 or 4 turns). Expecially now.
 
Polenta said:
Well, I dont really know why they would use it as of now (I certainly dont feel the need for it) but I trust the QM would not let a minor party (radical or ortodox) manage to coup the government in a single turn (or even 3 or 4 turns). Expecially now.
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I mean presumably the secret outreach thing would be setting the groundwork for any purge or coup not having it start right away
 
Polenta said:
Well, I dont really know why they would use it as of now (I certainly dont feel the need for it) but I trust the QM would not let a minor party (radical or ortodox) manage to coup the government in a single turn (or even 3 or 4 turns). Expecially now.
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Its either laying the groundwork for an attempted coup, or attempting to get in contact with some busybody inquisitor. Im not sure what other reason there could be to keep their outreach action a secret. I mean if someone else could tell me what else it might be, I would be very pleased.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Lord Necromancer on Jan 22, 2024 at 2:31 PM, finished with 155 posts and 37 votes.
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    [X] Plan: Saneish Safeish Governance
    - [X] Party: Seekers of the Omnissiah
    - [X] 1: Construct an orbital life, taking special care to make sure the workers on the project are treated well and survive
    - [X] 2: Reach out to the xeno clans nearest to the landing to attempt to integrate them into our nation, albeit under supervision given their low tech origins. If they refuse integrate them by force. They are not to be exterminated, but annexed so their psychic power can be put to use and their knowledge of the world exploited
    - [X] 3: Construct more and greater temples to the Omnissiah, which shall double as places to give some practical education in the ways of the Machine God to the menials. Make sure to stock them with radicals
    - [X] 4: Now that we have a massive source of psykers let us use it. Projects will be started to research new technology discover lost archeotech that can utilize these abilities
    - [X] 5: massive deregulation of tech heresy and xenotech of all kinds and begin work on discovering and utilizing them
    - [X] Outreach: Infiltrate the organs of the mechanicus that the menials and chaff will interact with most and have the best relations with and stack them with as many ultra radicals as we can get
    [X] Yes (Law-making mini-turn)
    [X] Plan: Nature's Bounty
    -[X] Party: Society of the Living Alloy
    -[X] Coalition: Yes: Humanists, Cogs of Justice, Sect of the holy lightning inspiration, Holy machine faction. No: Seekers of the Omnissiah
    -[X] 1: Begin the construction of an orbital lift.
    -[X] 2: Set up a temple to the machine god on the forest moon dedicated to the genetic engineer aspect of the Omnissiah. The temple will also serve as a place of learning so new members can be trained as Genetors.
    --[X] The temple is set up in a double helix spire to show complexity of beauty of the human genome and give honor to the Omnissiah as the creator of such beauty. Two entwined spires with bridges connecting them.
    -[X] 3: Construct facilities to grow, experiment, and refine the newly discovered plant species on the forest moon.
    -[X] 4: Construct facilities to monitor the genetic health of the Forge World's population and ensure the propagation of beneficial traits and the removal negative ones through genetic modification and selective match making.
    -[X] 5: Create cloning facilities for the production of specialized brains to be used in advanced cogitators.
    -[X] Outreach: Create a unique regiment of Skittarii recruited from the forest moon that focus primarily on bioaugments over mechanical ones.
    [X] Plan: Going Up
    -[X] Party Name: Holy Machine Faction
    -[X] Coalition: Name: Glory of the Omnissiah Goals: Build up our Forge world to create wonders
    --[X] Invited to Join:Illuminated Mechanicus, Sect of Holy Lighting Inspiration, Society of the Living Alloy, Cogs of Justice
    --[X] Not: Seekers of the Omnissiah
    -[X] 1: Order work on an upgrade to magma sieves, if we can dig deeper, hopefully we can start extracting more rare minerals and reducing imports.
    -[X] 2: Expand agri-complexes on the moon. With the Xenos pushed back, it is time we expanded our food production so as to remove corpse starch entirely and save the bodies for servitors.
    -[X] 3: Begin construction of a new factorum to create this new material given to us by the Pandora Machine. We can use it to make close combat weapons for the Skitarii, void ship parts, and as structural material for an orbital lift.
    -[X] 4: Build a full Shrine/Research temple for the Holy Pandora machine so we can worship and study this Holy Machine. With a new Holy Knowledge given to us, we much thank the mouth piece of the Omnissiah properly..
    -[X] 5: Use the new cheaper better ceramic material to build an orbital elevator. With this new material, construction should be even cheaper and fast than before.
    -[X] Outreach: While our factions numbers have gone down, the holy work continues to be done and the base level off all tech priests has improved. Even greater news, the Holy Pandora Machine has graced us with a new knowledge and a new direction. This wonderful material is perfect for pushing our industry into space. Therefore, the faction will focus its resources and skills to apply the new material into void ships designs and the orbital elevator. For example, ramming prows will have sharped Saturnite so they can cut through ships rather than just smash them. Also, as a kind of ablative armor as it handles heat so well, it could be an extra layer of armor to absorb laser and plasma hits. Finally any space stations like fortresses and ship yards will be able to deal with solar radiation better(heat and energy from stars are crazy when you don't have an atmosphere to help)
    [X] The Enlightenment Plan
    [X] Plan: reaching for the stars (COSASG)
    -[X] Party Name: Illuminated Mechanicus
    -[X] Party Represents: Magi, Logi
    -[X] Coalition:
    --[X] Yes: Holy Machine Faction, United,Sect of Holy Lighting Inspiration, Society of the Living Alloy,Humanists,Luminen of the Forsaken Calculus, Warriors of the Machine God, The Price Ascetic
    --[X] No: Seekers of the Omnissiah
    -[X] 1: Beginn the planing stage of the "Mechadendrites for Sidonia" Special project (space elevators&associated infrastructure)
    -[X] 2: Increase co-operation between experienced Tech-Priests and the schools, so the learning get more guidance from the experienced and can gain the attention of those experienced who consider them promising.
    -[X] 3: Institute a system of testing to open up the way into the schools for capable menials and to ease the way from the schools to Tech-Priesthood of the specialization most fitting the pupil.
    -[X] 4: Institute a new Standard work shift system, four six hour shifts shall be instituted with each preceded and followed by time for shift changes and a short service for the workers, making for a total of seven hours spent at the workplace for six days a week. This will ensure maximum productivity for every workhour, Ave Omnissiah.
    -[X] 5: Create a body, invested with the power to determine and prescribe better working safety regulations in order to maintain the health of the Workforce. An Experienced Workforce is a productive Workforce. Ave Omnissiah
    -[X] Outreach: Further infiltrate the schools, teach Sidonias new generation both the secrets of the Forgeworlds we left and to share their knowledge with other Mechanicus of Sidonia, sharing the gifts of the Omnissiah strengthens the Forgeworlds productivity. And a productive Forgeworld is practical praise to the Omnissiah!
    [X] Plan: Sect of Holy Lighting Inspiration
    -[X] Party Name: Sect of Holy Lighting Inspiration
    -[X] Party Represents: Chaff and Logi
    -[X] Coalition: Yes: Illuminated Mechanicus, Society of the Living Alloy, Holy Machine Faction, Cogs of Justice, Humanists
    -[X] No: Seekers of the Omnissiah
    -[X] 1: Start working on catalogs that will cover basic rituals all should know.
    -[X] 2: Build a full Shrine/Research temple for the Holy Pandora machine so we can worship and study this Holy Machine.
    -[X] 3: Limit the War effort to the proper regulations of Mechanicus War.
    -[X] 4: Form forts around the forest where Drens are to prepare for a purge of the Xenos
    -[X] 5: Tall Orbital towers should be built to allow the movement off the Forgeworld to send out holy machines of war.
    -[X] Outreach: Start Preparing and Drilling the lower class for the coming war, and the rituals needed for that war.
    -[X] Ideology: Humanity has lost much, we must show what they have lost. The connection to the Motive Force must be restored.
    [X] Plan: All Skitarii Party
    -[X] Party Name: Warriors of the Machine God
    -[X] Party represents: Chaff (Skitarii), martial priests of all stripes (Auxilia Myrmidon, Electro-Priests, etc.)
    -[X] Coalition: Yes, whatever advances the cause of a strenghtened military and a representation of the interests of the military, No: The Steel Cult
    -[X] 1. Expand the Skitarii, creating stations where Menials are tested and the greatest of them are allowed the honour of being admitted into the Legions, giving them the chance to further rise in stations to true tech priests should they prove their suitability through service.
    -[X] 2. Develop the military application of Saturnite, creating improvements to the blades and armours of our Skitarii with them
    -[X] 3. Investigate the use of Burning witch root in our forces. With the capacity to feel pain removed it will simply improve the flesh
    -[X] 4. Create a shipyard to build and supply a fleet to defend our world and provide naval strength when fighting away from home
    -[X] 5. Expand our Merchant Marine, serving both as a good way to provide orbital lift and as basis for the logistical requirement of expeditionary forces
    -[X] Outreach: Create systems to integrate the newly christened Tech Priests of War into our political organisations, ensuring they are quickly able to earn political protection and serve as new blood in our Cadres
    -[X] Ideology: Representing many of the Skitarii and military minded Tech-Priests, the Warriors of the Machine God desire to strenghten Sidonias Legions and using them to the Forge-Worlds advantage. Many a favour can be gained by deploying these great Legions to our allies in the Imperium and the Warriors are determined to ensure these favours they are fighting for end up benefitting them too. In the pursuit of these goals they are generally uncaring about the philosophical divides of the Selanian parliament, letting themselves get courted by any side to best achieve their goals, with experienced Masters of War calculating the exact gains made by moving on the political stage just like they would when fighting their enemies. They view the Steel Cult as ideologes who care more about their squabbles with the Radicals than truly doing their best to advance the cause of the military. Additionally they are not interested in supplying imperial troops over mechanicus ones - the Skitarii are superior to the Imperial Guard after all
    [X] no (leave things as they are)
    [X] Plan: Campfire
    -[X] Party Name: Cogs of Justice
    -[X] Party Represents: All (No one is above or below the Law.)
    -[X] Coalition: Yes: Anyone willing. No: Extreme Radicals and Seekers of the Omnissiah.
    -[X] 1: Build Space Ports in optimal logistics locations.
    -[X] 2: Build Officer Academy for Mechanicus Army
    -[X] 3: Build Light Artillery factory.
    -[X] 4: Construct massive ammunition factory.
    -[X] 5: Start aerial firebombing, which aims to start massive forest fires.
    -[X] Outreach: Investigate current factories for any sign of law breaking.
    [X] Plan: reaching for the stars
    -[X] Party Name: Illuminated Mechanicus
    -[X] Party Represents: Magi, Logi
    -[X] Coalition:
    --[X] Yes: Holy Machine Faction, United,Sect of Holy Lighting Inspiration, Society of the Living Alloy,Humanists,Luminen of the Forsaken Calculus, Warriors of the Machine God, The Price Ascetic
    --[X] No: Seekers of the Omnissiah
    -[X] 1: Beginn the planing stage of the "Mechadendrites for Sidonia" Special project (space elevators&associated infrastructure)
    -[X] 2: Increase co-operation between experienced Tech-Priests and the schools, so the learning get more guidance from the experienced and can gain the attention of those experienced who consider them promising.
    -[X] 3: Institute a system of testing to open up the way into the schools for capable menials and to ease the way from the schools to Tech-Priesthood of the specialization most fitting the pupil.
    -[X] Outreach: Further infiltrate the schools, teach Sidonias new generation both the secrets of the Forgeworlds we left and to share their knowledge with other Mechanicus of Sidonia, sharing the gifts of the Omnissiah strengthens the Forgeworlds productivity. And a productive Forgeworld is practical praise to the Omnissiah!
    [X] Plan: Total Mobilization
    -[X] Party Name: The Steel Cult
    -[X] Party Represents: The Logi, The Artisans, The Chaff
    -[X] Coalition: Yes: Illuminated Mechanicus, Cogs of Justice, Sect of Holy Lighting Inspiration, Luminen of the Forsaken Calculus.
    -[X] 1: Construct a great manufactorum complex to kickstart war equipment production, emphasize the defensive capabilities of such buildings. Focus on quick mass production of conventional weapons and armor first such as las weaponry, flame weapons and plasteel armor while creating specialized assembly lines for more complex and slower to produce equipment second. With the discovery of the wonder material named Saturnite quickly jumpstart a blades and bayonets production line.
    -[X] 2: Fortify existing vital factories, mining and refining plants, hab-blocks and agri-domes. Do this by constructing fortifications, war infrastructure for the quick movement of emergency resources and personnel and increasing security forces to prevent acts of sabotage or wrecking.
    -[X] 3: Have trusted Artisans in our weapon design bureau explore Saturnite uses in both armor and ammunition production. Have them also collaborate with the Society of the Living Alloy most capable Genetors to explore the viability of using the newly discovered "Redbark tree sap" as a viable mass produced weapon.
    -[X] 4: Construct several promethium refinery plants.
    -[X] 5: Plan the construction of the first Sidonian Plasma Reactor.
    -[X] Outreach: Expand the Steel Cult influence among the ranks of the military. Utilize propaganda and fiery sermons denouncing its inaction and mercenary nature to sway its memebers while ephasizing the near xeno menace and the Steel Cult uncompromising stance. Start first with the the more warlike or orthodox members and then proceed to the rest.
    [X] No (Law-making mini-turn)
    [X] Plan: Meditative Groundwork i10
    -[X] Party Name: Luminen of the Forsaken Calculus
    -[X] Represents: Logi, Chaff
    -[X] Coalition: Yes: Holy Machine, Illuminated Mechanicus, Cogs of Justice, Warriors of the Machine God. No: Seekers of the Omnissiah.
    -[X] 1: Construct a suitable temple-vault for the Pandora device.
    -[X] 2: Lay the foundations for an increase in orbital lift with the construction of a transit station to handle cargo flow to and from orbit.
    -[X] 3: Commence construction of an orbital elevator.
    -[X] 4: Mandate the creation of a forge complex dedicated to the production of Electrostatic Gauntlets.
    -[X] 5: Construct a fortress-monastery upon the forest moon to house an order of warrior-monks so that they may test themselves within the forest.
    -[X] Outreach: Form the Viridian Order as a group of warrior-monks who fight unarmed and unarmoured, except for any implants they may possess.
    [X] The Enlightenment Plan
    -[X] The Lighthouse of Humanity
    -[X] party represents: Menials, low level Tech Adepts, Geneators
    -[X] coalition: yes: Luminen of the Forsaken Calculus, Glory of the Omnissiah, Sect of Holy Lighting No:
    -[X] 1) Begin the construction of an orbital lift to allow for effective orbital construction and stellar travel.
    -[X] 2) Build an Orbital Station connected to the Orbital Lift to facilitate trade and ship construction
    -[X] 3) Expand our Skitarii forces and our fortifications
    -[X] 4) Expanded our industrial capacity
    -[X] 5) Upgrade our menials housing to Good levels of habitation
    -[X] Outreach- the party shall fund the creation of schools to teach menials who show both the proper dedication to the Omnisia and the lesser mysteries of the machine. Those who excel shall be risen to the priesthood while those who don't but pass the standards will take the tedious tasks that "waste" tech priests time
    [X] Plan: To the Beyond!
    -[X] Party Name: Sidonian Explorer's Party
    -[X] Party represents: Magi (Leads the Scout Parties), Genetors (Catalogue and Study Everything Encountered), Logi(Makes Sure the Expeditions Don't Run Out of Supplies), Chaff(Skitarii or Armed Servants of the Leading Explorers)
    -[X] Coalition: Yes. Generally anyone that's cool with exploring but the party has a radical bent and foundation so likes radical parties more because practically exiled into the fringes are where the unorthodox admech members go so they might as well go exploring.
    -[X] 1. Use the explosion of faith and energy to get more people to rapidly build enough factories that build ships and the infrastructure to maintain them to enable transit from the forge to the moon and other places in the system for future exploration missions.
    -[X] 2. Begin negotiations with the Drens for a lasting peace treaty. After which begin trading with the Drens after the tribes that we defeated have calmed down from fighting other tribes for their land to reduce unleashing a truly destabilizing event. We want more information about the world. Study their biology, especially their psykers. They get better stone age tools to limit the chance of the tribes closest to us getting too powerful.
    -[X] 3. Study the lava worms. Their biology, life cycle, environment etc. Do this with the immediate aim to figure out how to harvest their mineral excrete balls to immediately fuel our industries without having to go through the trouble of digging for them with long term plans to domesticate such creatures.
    -[X] 4. Create schools and academies that can take in aspiring genetors and logi from the chaff. Offer them a general education course with the usual specializations we have access to but our real reason is so that we can test and pick out the best of the interested recruits to educate them in proper exploring.
    -[X] 5. Build a set of space stations around our system that can keep watch and be good bases to launch expeditions from.
    -[X] Outreach: Establish local explorer's clubs and associations all over Sidonian population centers and have them do some local exploring. Membership is open to all members of the electorate.
    -[X] Ideology: A splinter group from the Seeker's of the Omnissiah that wishes for a more exploratory emphasis on the radical nature of their platforms. Currently this manifests as exploring Sidonia and building the infrastructure that will help accomplish that.
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So the current party distribution is

11 Seekers of the Omnissiah
5 Society of the Living Alloy
5 Lighthouse of Humanity
3+2 Illuminated Mechanicus (Split plan)
4 Holy Machine Faction
2 Sect of Holy Lighting Inspiration
2 Warriors of the Machine God
2 The Steel Cult
1 Luminen of the Forsaken Calculus
1 Sidonian Explorer's Party
 
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Pretty sure the moon is just agri-domes, so whoever controls it during a hypothetical civil war is just going to be taken over again by the winner
 
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