I just wake up, i was not ready for this ecumanopolis tech i will just see this like in stellaris giving us sweet bonus in everwhere and production going to the moon, we don't need to talk about more people that will be a givenOk for your fishing expedition you unfortunately didn't get a bite
As for you regular spin you got a Full STC for... God I hate all of you fuckers. I need to engineer some kind of Goat plague to wipe those bastards out.
1 Full STC for Ecumanopolis Tech is now yours
Let the fires of industry BURN! a WH40K manufactorum administrator quest
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Yeah the funny thing is that Warhammer, to my limited knowledge, doesn't actually use Ecumanapoli like at all. Hives are old Arcologies but Ecu. are vastly different in size and scope. So yeah a properly constructed Ecumanopolis will have vast benefits
Capacity of an average Hive
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Part One: Capacity of An Average Hive City, Or Just HOW MUCH Room Do I Have To Deal With?!
So, I've been having some thoughts on Hive Cities, based on the pic I posted a couple of pages back.
Now, I've been doing some thinking on this one, actual math (brain hurts, plz stop).
The Empire State Building (my point of reference bc I'm most familiar with it) is 380 meters tall according to google.
Mount Everest is 8848 meters tall according to google.
8848 / 380 = 23.28 (rounded down to 23)
So, 23 levels that each were 380 meters tall (which seems to me a fair amount of room per level for machinery and what not) can fit inside a Hive City the size of Mount Everest. This fits 40K's sense of ridiculous scale, like 1930s mega-architecture had a kid with Gothic Cathedrals, and the kid was put on steroids.
But, the Hive City in the pic above apparently is 4 miles tall (not counting the Spire part). 4 miles = 6437.38 meters, according to google. Which is apparently shorter than Mount Everest, huh. Neat.
If you include the Spire, the point until the Spire become just basically a needle shooting straight up into the sky is about 9 miles, or 14,484.1 meters according to google.
14,484.1 / 380 = 38.12 (rounded down to 38) Empire State Buildings can fit from the base of the Hive all the way to the top of the Spire.
This is not counting room for the spaces between levels/the "floor" of each level. Let's say you need 50 meters of "solid" (ie filled with machinery, adamantium supports, etc) floor per level to hold everything up per level, so 50m x 38 = 1900 meters.
14,484 - 1900 = 12,584 meters of livable height for the levels.
12,584 / 380 = 33.12 (rounded to 33) Empire State Building-sized levels from base to Spire top.
Okay, that takes care of height. That's a fuckton of room just by itself. Now for volume, which means we'll need the base of the "pyramid" (which I'll be using bc GAOT designers would have tried to spread the weight of this megastructure as evenly as possible so the crust of the planet can support it).
"To find the volume of a pyramid, we multiply the area of its base with the height of the pyramid, and divide by 3. We express this product with the formula V=13×B×h, where B is the area of the base of the pyramid, and h is its height."
Height = 14,484m
Area of Base = 4000mx4000m = 16,000,000
14,484 x 16,000,000 = 231,744,000,000 / 3 = 77,248,000,000m3 (total internal volume)
Alright, that's...a huge amount of internal volume. Subtracting out the floors and the volume they take up gets this:
12,584 x 16,000,000 = 201,344,000,000 / 3 = 67,114,666,667m3 (of useable space)
The Empire State Building has 1.04 million cubic meters (1,040,000m3) of volume, according to google.
Thus, 67,114,666,667 / 1,040,000 = 64,533.33 Empire State Buildings can fit inside a 40K Hive City.
For picturing, Manhattan Island only has ~43,000 buildings total on the island, again according to google. So even if every building in Manhattan Island was replaced with Empire State Building duplicates (ignoring differences in size requirements), then they would still spill over that limited size. Wow.
To take into account, well, empty space not physically occupied by structures, let's cut that number in half, so we're assuming every other Empire State Building-sized volume is empty air. That's...32,266.66 Empire State Buildings of, I guess we can call them lot space.
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So, this was an interesting intellectual exercise thinking about the sheer magnitude of physical space that a Hive City occupies. Its not a complete analysis by any means, as I'm not that good at math (and looking up even basics hurt my brain), but I did compensate for some basics, like the floors between levels, and the need for empty space between infrastructure.
Hong Kong slums have 6300 people per square kilometer, according to google, so that would be...
Eh, I'll figure that out later. I have a baby to feed.
So, I've been having some thoughts on Hive Cities, based on the pic I posted a couple of pages back.
Now, I've been doing some thinking on this one, actual math (brain hurts, plz stop).
The Empire State Building (my point of reference bc I'm most familiar with it) is 380 meters tall according to google.
Mount Everest is 8848 meters tall according to google.
8848 / 380 = 23.28 (rounded down to 23)
So, 23 levels that each were 380 meters tall (which seems to me a fair amount of room per level for machinery and what not) can fit inside a Hive City the size of Mount Everest. This fits 40K's sense of ridiculous scale, like 1930s mega-architecture had a kid with Gothic Cathedrals, and the kid was put on steroids.
But, the Hive City in the pic above apparently is 4 miles tall (not counting the Spire part). 4 miles = 6437.38 meters, according to google. Which is apparently shorter than Mount Everest, huh. Neat.
If you include the Spire, the point until the Spire become just basically a needle shooting straight up into the sky is about 9 miles, or 14,484.1 meters according to google.
14,484.1 / 380 = 38.12 (rounded down to 38) Empire State Buildings can fit from the base of the Hive all the way to the top of the Spire.
This is not counting room for the spaces between levels/the "floor" of each level. Let's say you need 50 meters of "solid" (ie filled with machinery, adamantium supports, etc) floor per level to hold everything up per level, so 50m x 38 = 1900 meters.
14,484 - 1900 = 12,584 meters of livable height for the levels.
12,584 / 380 = 33.12 (rounded to 33) Empire State Building-sized levels from base to Spire top.
Okay, that takes care of height. That's a fuckton of room just by itself. Now for volume, which means we'll need the base of the "pyramid" (which I'll be using bc GAOT designers would have tried to spread the weight of this megastructure as evenly as possible so the crust of the planet can support it).
"To find the volume of a pyramid, we multiply the area of its base with the height of the pyramid, and divide by 3. We express this product with the formula V=13×B×h, where B is the area of the base of the pyramid, and h is its height."
Height = 14,484m
Area of Base = 4000mx4000m = 16,000,000
14,484 x 16,000,000 = 231,744,000,000 / 3 = 77,248,000,000m3 (total internal volume)
Alright, that's...a huge amount of internal volume. Subtracting out the floors and the volume they take up gets this:
12,584 x 16,000,000 = 201,344,000,000 / 3 = 67,114,666,667m3 (of useable space)
The Empire State Building has 1.04 million cubic meters (1,040,000m3) of volume, according to google.
Thus, 67,114,666,667 / 1,040,000 = 64,533.33 Empire State Buildings can fit inside a 40K Hive City.
For picturing, Manhattan Island only has ~43,000 buildings total on the island, again according to google. So even if every building in Manhattan Island was replaced with Empire State Building duplicates (ignoring differences in size requirements), then they would still spill over that limited size. Wow.
To take into account, well, empty space not physically occupied by structures, let's cut that number in half, so we're assuming every other Empire State Building-sized volume is empty air. That's...32,266.66 Empire State Buildings of, I guess we can call them lot space.
***
So, this was an interesting intellectual exercise thinking about the sheer magnitude of physical space that a Hive City occupies. Its not a complete analysis by any means, as I'm not that good at math (and looking up even basics hurt my brain), but I did compensate for some basics, like the floors between levels, and the need for empty space between infrastructure.
Hong Kong slums have 6300 people per square kilometer, according to google, so that would be...
Eh, I'll figure that out later. I have a baby to feed.
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So it's a hive but different
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I should be more specific, the timeline of the omake is when we already are in our new sector in our capital, i don't really know about the ins and out (don't know shit) of colonization and exploration but i can see the Ecclesiarchy launching a squad too this new Saint that is a Sector Lord too, like the interest lines up for them to have a base in this new Sector that don't know the Imperial Truth and see this new Saint because they aren't saintified by them ? like i don't know how the Imperium make Saint this is out of any knowledge i have, i did extrapolate in the reaction that i'm sorry don't really know how to make the crazy zealots not crazy when any saint is alive and all that
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Ecumenopolis = CIty planet
Like terra
But this one is probably self sustainable
I will select the 2) rep with them will be a pain to raise so any is good here
QM give this man a reward he did the worst thing possible to himself this is almost as bad as torture for knowledge, poor brain i hope that he survive this war that is calculus
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VERY different in both size and scale
Not really, it will need a lot of food and minerals but it will have a housing capacity of tens of trillions and a manufacturing sector to shame even Mars.
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You know what, That's the fucking truth right there.
Yo @avatar11792 do you want 2 spins for your BIG BRAIN calculation post?
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Big thing is, Terra is or was, an Ecumanapoli. It's just 15k+ years or no maintained and unwise urban planning that made it hell.
I would rather our Ecu self-sufficiency btw. That means hanging gardens, water recycle, fusion reactors, oxygen generators,... many things.
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An ecumenopolis technically is the same kind of technology that a hive arcology would, ie a self-sustaining self-contained artificial ecosystem combined with the city built to the size of mountains. However an ecumenopolis just expands this to cover the vast majority of or even an entire planet. Examples of ecumenopolises involve Trantor from the foundation series by Isaac asimov, or more famously these days Coruscant from Star wars.
The origins of the concept of ecumenopolis are not necessarily tied to Arcologies historically however. It started out as imagining what if the city kept growing and growing and growing and never stopped? Adding elements of Arcologies and Hive cities to it makes logical sense however, because we know the trantor and coruscant and other examples like that are immensely huge structures that are essentially a new layer of crust on the planet that they come from, with populations at their peak potentially in the quadrillions. That level of population and the resources required to build it would require most of the technologies of an arcology just to recycle enough resources to keep people alive and from eating each other.
Yes please!
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Prepare the GOATS!!!
BTW, here are a link to some minor terraform equipments if they made it to the list.
Terraforming
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You already have an STC for terraforming tho?
You my good NEEEEEEERD have received
1 Full STC for a mobile land Factory (This will help with Colonization and/or remote construction)
1 Moderatly Scrambled (1850/2500) STC for 3-D Printing (Large-scale)
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
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Literally an MCV or perhaps... This.
I don't even know when we would even build an city planet.
That would require such a large population that it could take centuries to build and populate. Unless we get a rundown Hive World that we can bulldoze, that would be considered a marginal improvement
Sounds like another example of awesome, yet impractical. Not that I expect much from the Imperium in the first place.
That would require such a large population that it could take centuries to build and populate. Unless we get a rundown Hive World that we can bulldoze, that would be considered a marginal improvement
Sounds like another example of awesome, yet impractical. Not that I expect much from the Imperium in the first place.
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I imagine an Ecumenopolis STC would, as you put it, be best applied after 1000 years of pop expansion by any means necessary, whether by economic incentives for large families, cultural incentives for large families, very broad (yet thorough inspection/review) immigration protocols, accepting of refugees (after thorough screening/review), and also cloning. LOTS of cloning.
This would allow us, if the Imperium hypothetically fell, to have us establish our own civ, with cloning allowing us CLONE ARMIES OF THE
Well, the Aerostat Platforms he linked to are similar to the orbital platform tech from StarCraft, and would be useful to export the more polluting industry into low orbit, or just expand our pop base and have our Sector build vertically. Not necessarily useful for terraforming, but its a flexible platform to build off of.
Yay!
The Mobile Land Factory, is that the one from StarCraft? That's hella useful, especially when combined with Large-Scale 3D Printing integrated into it. We could feasibly be churning out large vehicles like tanks, mechs and such, or even replacement parts for Titans (not whole Titans, but critical components for a body part like a leg or arm, or possibly a weapons platform to mount on it so our Titan could be weapons-swapped at the Factory only a short distance away from the battlefield!
Hmm...lots of possibilities...I'd say we should finish the Large-Scale 3d Printing STC, then we could integrate both and build our first Mobile Integrated Land Factory (MILF for short). Very useful for radically expanding our production of any vehicle, pretty much. And certainly MILFs love churning out the goods to the masses...
Ooh, we could set up Recon Companies, churn out mass produced Hoverbikes (I think somebody already unlocked/discovered those?), and their mobility will be great to use down here!
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Just saying here but Mechanicus boner is high 2 full STCs and another broken one, kek QM how high is lets say the fervor of the Mechanicus religion, like on ck2 where you conquer a important religion place and the fervor go up but in 40k the places are STCs ? i say it is 1000% in the fires of the Machine God
I have finally caught up after i stopped reading at the end of turn 1 to let those sweet updates stack up. All i can say is wow... That uh... I expected there to be loot but that much STCs? I am now curious why all those were there besides the OOC reasons. Was this area of the underhive built on top of some some secret scientific outpost that was lost? Maybe the AI has a part to play with why that stuff was present and in such good condition?
The machinus are going to annihilate who ever kills us
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Yep, too bad so many people will be trying to do just that
Yeah but that's warhammer for you it could be worse
Part Two: Hypothetical Socio-Political Analysis of Hive Cities
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Part Two: Hypothetical Socio-Political Analysis of Hive Cities
So, the first part of my analysis covered just how large the internal (useable) volume of a Hive City can be. The model I'm using is one the size of the Hive City from the pic I've referenced before, which is 9 miles (14,484 meters) tall. There are, assuming 380 meters (the height of the Empire State Building) in between levels, and assuming level heights remain constant all the way up for simplified construction purposes, 33 levels from the Underhive to the top of the Spire. The shape of the Hive City is a massive Great Pyramid-esque shape to help distribute as much weight as possible across the broadest part of the crust (like ended up done in Egypt, which has some of the thickest bedrock closest to the surface on the planet, so its uniquely suited to titanic pyramids being built there), combined with a super-sized Empire State Building/Chrysler Building-esque super-skyscraper coming out of the top of the Pyramid, going to the top, narrowing into the familiar Hive City pointy needle at the top (which I'm 9/10 sure is meant to be a space elevator anchor according to original specs, just the elevator part broke off a long time ago).
While calculating the internal volume of the Hive City took a (LONG) time to do, I concluded, eventually, that 32,267 Empire State Buildings can fit inside the outer shell of a Hive City of the proposed physical dimensions. I subtracted room for 50 meter thick floors between each level earlier, as well as cutting the number of buildings in half for empty space/breathing room/lack of structures.
I had ended on speculating on population density. I will now quote the Empire State Building wiki:
"According to official fact sheets, the Empire State Building weighs 365,000 short tons (331,122 t) and has an internal volume of 37 million cubic feet (1,000,000 m3).[51] The interior required 1,172 miles (1,886 km) of elevator cable and 2 million feet (609,600 m) of electrical wires.[75] It has a total floor area of 2,768,591 sq ft (257,211 m2), and each of the floors in the base cover 2 acres (1 ha).[76] This gives the building capacity for 20,000 tenants and 15,000 visitors.[47]"
So, a building with 1,000,000m3 meters of volume can, compensating for needed internal infrastructure, support/maintain up to 35,000 people.
35,000 x 32,267 = 1,129,345,000 people per Hive City.
However, it should be noted at the ESB (not typing that out every bloody time) is not residential, more of an office/business building. And 40K has ludicrously higher pop densities than modern Western offices normally have.
Suitable for 40k, Macao in China apparently has the current world record for population density, at 19,493km2 people per square kilometer (51.3 per square meter). To convert from square to cubic meters, determine the height of the area. Multiply the meters squared by the height.
51.3 x 380m x 33 levels = 643,302 people per cubic meter.
67,114,666,667m3 / 2 (bc of needed empty space/inefficiencies/etc) = 33,557,333,334m3 of usable space
33,557,333,334m3 x 643,302 people per cubic meter = 21,587,499,648,428,870 people that could be fit in a Hive City, assuming Macao-level population density.
We're not done yet. We'll need to cut that number in half to account for space for bulky industrial machines and such, so that's...10,793,749,824,214,430 people.
Okay, that's 10.79+ QUADRILLION people, just for one Hive City.
Okay, but what about rich people wanting their space, because poor people are yucky? They occupy the top... *eyeballs the pic* Let's say 1/5 of the entire Hive City. So they'll need room for their ballrooms, vast parks and gardens, orgy dens to the horizon, and enough gold-plated Versailles duplicates to make King Solomon and Mansa Musa jealous.
10793749824214430 - 2,158,749,964,842,887 (1/5 of total) = 8,634,999,859,371,543 people
Okay, given ALL THAT...we're still dealing with 8.6 quadrillion people in an entire Hive City, fully populated. Which leads us to the next stage of my speculation.
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Okay, we now have established that the total population of a fully functioning, STC-made, optimal on all thrusters Hive City should be 8,634,999,859,371,543 people. But, as we all know, 40K is far from optimal; the Age of Strife and multiple genocides/massacres/invasions/etc took care of that. So its a tenth of that, maybe even a hundredth of that, that could be living now, or have enough infrastructure to handle it anyways considering how much stuff is broken or in ruins in modern 40K that nobody knows how to fix.
But knowing how many people our theoretical infrastructure could handle, once restored is immensely important. NOW they're living in shitholes eating radiation gruel, but they won't be after our FIXING all the Hive's issues, or trying to via some minimal reforms at least.
Even operating from a mindset that nobles have about "peasants = yucky", you can get more work out of a even moderately well fed, minimally educated work force than you can out of a filthy slime covered illiterate lunatic with guns and knives everywhere on them. Gangers by definition are useless to the Hive City society in question, performing only crimes and contributing no economic profit. They do not aid in defense of the Hive City, they do not grow food, they do not perform any meaningful mechanical or industrial work. They are, quite literally, a waste of space, except they're even worse than that, they represent an active and dangerous threat to those in a Hive City who DO contribute to the economy.
Our PC is all about the numbers, with minimal noble bias aside from "yucky". But by focusing on the numbers, it makes all the sense in the world to spend even 1% more of the Hive City's total GDP to uplift the native population, bc the economic returns are MUCH greater than 1% in exchange. By effectively - via our reforms, STCs, and overall just building basic infrastructure - uplifting the ENTIRETY of the Underhives to becoming just another section of the Lower Hives, you are taking every resident desperately fighting for survival and turning them into a productive member of society. They will have food, water, minimal electrical rations, jobs, and something resembling a future. And that's not factoring in more extreme reforms that could be done in the future once things settle down, like an actual EDUCATION (gasp), which alone would massively balloon every individual's potential far beyond what it is now.
Don't push the poorest of the poor into a corner, and they won't fight like rats when they find themselves trapped. Every rich idiot should be aware of this.
TLDR: Games Workshop doesn't know math from a hole in the ground. What else is new.
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Oh, and apparently, even fucking air is pumped in from filtration units from the Upper Spire, meaning it gets worse and worse as it goes down, until by the lowest Underhives and the Sump levels its barely breathable filled with toxins and lords know what else. We should build some large air filtration generators for us down here, it will benefit literally everybody down here including us, and vastly improve health conditions in the most passive of ways.
So, the first part of my analysis covered just how large the internal (useable) volume of a Hive City can be. The model I'm using is one the size of the Hive City from the pic I've referenced before, which is 9 miles (14,484 meters) tall. There are, assuming 380 meters (the height of the Empire State Building) in between levels, and assuming level heights remain constant all the way up for simplified construction purposes, 33 levels from the Underhive to the top of the Spire. The shape of the Hive City is a massive Great Pyramid-esque shape to help distribute as much weight as possible across the broadest part of the crust (like ended up done in Egypt, which has some of the thickest bedrock closest to the surface on the planet, so its uniquely suited to titanic pyramids being built there), combined with a super-sized Empire State Building/Chrysler Building-esque super-skyscraper coming out of the top of the Pyramid, going to the top, narrowing into the familiar Hive City pointy needle at the top (which I'm 9/10 sure is meant to be a space elevator anchor according to original specs, just the elevator part broke off a long time ago).
While calculating the internal volume of the Hive City took a (LONG) time to do, I concluded, eventually, that 32,267 Empire State Buildings can fit inside the outer shell of a Hive City of the proposed physical dimensions. I subtracted room for 50 meter thick floors between each level earlier, as well as cutting the number of buildings in half for empty space/breathing room/lack of structures.
I had ended on speculating on population density. I will now quote the Empire State Building wiki:
"According to official fact sheets, the Empire State Building weighs 365,000 short tons (331,122 t) and has an internal volume of 37 million cubic feet (1,000,000 m3).[51] The interior required 1,172 miles (1,886 km) of elevator cable and 2 million feet (609,600 m) of electrical wires.[75] It has a total floor area of 2,768,591 sq ft (257,211 m2), and each of the floors in the base cover 2 acres (1 ha).[76] This gives the building capacity for 20,000 tenants and 15,000 visitors.[47]"
So, a building with 1,000,000m3 meters of volume can, compensating for needed internal infrastructure, support/maintain up to 35,000 people.
35,000 x 32,267 = 1,129,345,000 people per Hive City.
However, it should be noted at the ESB (not typing that out every bloody time) is not residential, more of an office/business building. And 40K has ludicrously higher pop densities than modern Western offices normally have.
Suitable for 40k, Macao in China apparently has the current world record for population density, at 19,493km2 people per square kilometer (51.3 per square meter). To convert from square to cubic meters, determine the height of the area. Multiply the meters squared by the height.
51.3 x 380m x 33 levels = 643,302 people per cubic meter.
67,114,666,667m3 / 2 (bc of needed empty space/inefficiencies/etc) = 33,557,333,334m3 of usable space
33,557,333,334m3 x 643,302 people per cubic meter = 21,587,499,648,428,870 people that could be fit in a Hive City, assuming Macao-level population density.
We're not done yet. We'll need to cut that number in half to account for space for bulky industrial machines and such, so that's...10,793,749,824,214,430 people.
Okay, that's 10.79+ QUADRILLION people, just for one Hive City.
Okay, but what about rich people wanting their space, because poor people are yucky? They occupy the top... *eyeballs the pic* Let's say 1/5 of the entire Hive City. So they'll need room for their ballrooms, vast parks and gardens, orgy dens to the horizon, and enough gold-plated Versailles duplicates to make King Solomon and Mansa Musa jealous.
10793749824214430 - 2,158,749,964,842,887 (1/5 of total) = 8,634,999,859,371,543 people
Okay, given ALL THAT...we're still dealing with 8.6 quadrillion people in an entire Hive City, fully populated. Which leads us to the next stage of my speculation.
***
Okay, we now have established that the total population of a fully functioning, STC-made, optimal on all thrusters Hive City should be 8,634,999,859,371,543 people. But, as we all know, 40K is far from optimal; the Age of Strife and multiple genocides/massacres/invasions/etc took care of that. So its a tenth of that, maybe even a hundredth of that, that could be living now, or have enough infrastructure to handle it anyways considering how much stuff is broken or in ruins in modern 40K that nobody knows how to fix.
But knowing how many people our theoretical infrastructure could handle, once restored is immensely important. NOW they're living in shitholes eating radiation gruel, but they won't be after our FIXING all the Hive's issues, or trying to via some minimal reforms at least.
Even operating from a mindset that nobles have about "peasants = yucky", you can get more work out of a even moderately well fed, minimally educated work force than you can out of a filthy slime covered illiterate lunatic with guns and knives everywhere on them. Gangers by definition are useless to the Hive City society in question, performing only crimes and contributing no economic profit. They do not aid in defense of the Hive City, they do not grow food, they do not perform any meaningful mechanical or industrial work. They are, quite literally, a waste of space, except they're even worse than that, they represent an active and dangerous threat to those in a Hive City who DO contribute to the economy.
Our PC is all about the numbers, with minimal noble bias aside from "yucky". But by focusing on the numbers, it makes all the sense in the world to spend even 1% more of the Hive City's total GDP to uplift the native population, bc the economic returns are MUCH greater than 1% in exchange. By effectively - via our reforms, STCs, and overall just building basic infrastructure - uplifting the ENTIRETY of the Underhives to becoming just another section of the Lower Hives, you are taking every resident desperately fighting for survival and turning them into a productive member of society. They will have food, water, minimal electrical rations, jobs, and something resembling a future. And that's not factoring in more extreme reforms that could be done in the future once things settle down, like an actual EDUCATION (gasp), which alone would massively balloon every individual's potential far beyond what it is now.
Don't push the poorest of the poor into a corner, and they won't fight like rats when they find themselves trapped. Every rich idiot should be aware of this.
TLDR: Games Workshop doesn't know math from a hole in the ground. What else is new.
***
Oh, and apparently, even fucking air is pumped in from filtration units from the Upper Spire, meaning it gets worse and worse as it goes down, until by the lowest Underhives and the Sump levels its barely breathable filled with toxins and lords know what else. We should build some large air filtration generators for us down here, it will benefit literally everybody down here including us, and vastly improve health conditions in the most passive of ways.
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That's why the link I posted above, while the content was the platform; there are categories at the end of the page for references. Even if we successfully terraformed a world, with blue skies and fresh air; there is no guarantee that all of them will be used up in 1 or 2 centuries.
Essentially, the purpose of terraforming is to make the world more habitable for human. Temperature, pressure, oxygen, water. What if they all ran out? We get Terra, a shithole dependent on external supplies from surrounding sectors.
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SHEEEEESH! God Damn man.
The math you just spat out is insane, my guy. Do you want another reward?