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I like Plan for Next Year, but there's one problem with it:

[ ] ...Dreselin, are you there? You were touched by divinity in Ganz, and poor luck, poor judgement, or lack of skill ruined every attempt at pewter casting you made, so the brush of the divine left you, tinged with disappointment. How do you apologize to a god except by praying?
Cost: 0. Difficulty: ??. Pray to the goddess of crafts.

How do you apologize indeed. I think the best way to apologize is to finish those damn castings. We should try praying to Dreselin AFTER we manage that.
 
[X] Mill now
-[X] Exercise with Sasha!
-[X] The Watermill, Part 1.
The busy season modifier is gone so now the workers are free to work on it delaying it might mean that we are building it during the harvest when all will be busy again
with our stewardship and the survey applying i do not think we need a model first
-[X] [FREE]More Horse Collars.
We need to raise more money to both pay for the mill and pay our taxes, doing this now means it will pay out before we need to pay the taxes
-[X] [FREE] Forgework
more money and with a good roll there might be time to work on sand casting
-[X] Call for Casting.
cast iron plows will be a good source of profit and help the town produce more grain for the mill.
-[X] Beekeeping Outline.
Beekeeping is something we can get working fast enough to profit from later this year and does not have a high cost to start(you need some wood and beehives)
-[X] Correspondence.
with spending all money on the mill and horse collars this is the only option we can take
-[X] Audit Preparation, sneaky
we have the time to try it sneaky at least once more, the next harvest is still months away.
-[X] Signs of evil.
We had undead in the woods lets learn more about them before they return, we might add a chapter on undead to our monster manual if we study undead first
-[X] Cast the die of friendship.
while working in the forge on cast iron plows we can work on our friendship with greens as well.
 
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Superticus said:
[X] Exercise with Sasha!
[X] Forgework.
[X] [Free] Start four-field crop rotation (convince).
[X] Call for Casting.
[X] Vodka Brewing outline.
[X] Mill prototype demo.
[X] [Free] Correspondence.
[X] Audit Preparation, sneaky.
[X] ...Dreselin, are you there?
[X] Cast the die of friendship.
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You need to add a plan name and then put "-" in front of the subvotes so that they show up as one vote under the vote tally.

@Elder Haman, you've got a space right before the ending bracket of your Codex Outline vote so it's not showing up in the vote tally.

I don't want to do vodka brewing when we have an assistant that's dealing with alcoholism so I'll start a new plan with standard measurements instead. I'll also go with blatant audit preparation in hopes that people will be less upset than if we fail the sneaky roll and people realize what we were doing. I'm hoping that the horse collars will improve the town's opinion of us by boosting the local economy to offset the blatant audit preparation and earn us some money.

[X]Plan Standard & Blatant
-[X] Exercise with Sasha!
-[X] Forgework.
-[X] Call for Casting.
-[X] More Horse Collars.-Free action
-[X] Standard Weights and Measures outline.
-[X] Correspondence.
-[X] Mill prototype demo.-Free action
-[X] Audit Preparation, blatant.
-[X] ...Dreselin, are you there?
-[X] Cast the die of friendship.

Edit: Also, we improve the mine to make it easier for people to make money so I'm hoping that the town will take that into account when weighing their "losses" to the audit.
 
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If were doing the mill prototype wouldn't praying to Ordnil be a better option? The update about visiting the churches (the one where we got a divine go ahead) pointed to how Ordnil is as much a god of teamwork as much as a god of defense. If I remember right the speaker had us pushing a boulder together as a group. Moving heavy equipment around and several people working together sounds right up his alley if this is the case.

Dreselin meanwhile is more focused on innovation, work safety and craftsmanship. While I can see the argument for picking her, the purpose of the model is to rouse support for building the mill. We can pray to her when were actually building the mill, else she might get bored again if we can't convince the people of Nesiwald.
 
cooldude888 said:
If were doing the mill prototype wouldn't praying to Ordnil be a better option? The update about visiting the churches (the one where we got a divine go ahead) pointed to how Ordnil is as much a god of teamwork as much as a god of defense. If I remember right the speaker had us pushing a boulder together as a group. Moving heavy equipment around and several people working together sounds right up his alley if this is the case.

Dreselin meanwhile is more focused on innovation, work safety and craftsmanship. While I can see the argument for picking her, the purpose of the model is to rouse support for building the mill. We can pray to her when were actually building the mill, else she might get bored again if we can't convince the people of Nesiwald.
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The prototype is so small as to be powered by a bucket of water poured into a trough. Not exactly the most impressive act.
 
[X]Plan Standard & Blatant
-[X] Exercise with Sasha!
-[X] Forgework.
-[X] Call for Casting.
-[X] More Horse Collars.-Free action
-[X] Standard Weights and Measures outline.
-[X] Correspondence.
-[X] Mill prototype demo.-Free action
-[X] Audit Preparation, blatant.
-[X] ...Dreselin, are you there?
-[X] Cast the die of friendship.
 
Chopak said:
I like Plan for Next Year, but there's one problem with it:

[ ] ...Dreselin, are you there? You were touched by divinity in Ganz, and poor luck, poor judgement, or lack of skill ruined every attempt at pewter casting you made, so the brush of the divine left you, tinged with disappointment. How do you apologize to a god except by praying?
Cost: 0. Difficulty: ??. Pray to the goddess of crafts.

How do you apologize indeed. I think the best way to apologize is to finish those damn castings. We should try praying to Dreselin AFTER we manage that.
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as long as we're taking the actions to continue the work this turn I think it's fine if we pray now. It's simple sinergy

[X]Plan Standard & Blatant

our efforts HAVE to be worth something, and i expect that, even if we don't recover the blessing bonus for this attempt, a success would immediately get the god's attention back.

"Dreselin, please, look! I succeeded!" "I'm surprised. Well done!"
 
On the one hand I'd like to keep working on standard weights and measures (we grabbed cast iron plows as a quick thing to start making us cash - following it up with more quick things to make us cash just smacks of never actually investing in long term benefits rather than the next low-hanging fruit), but on the other hand I don't want to piss off the locals with blatant audits.
 
Rockeye said:
[ ] Beekeeping Outline. Honey is a deliciously sweet delicacy, a rare treat. Nobles love the stuff, and you would know! Given that you have to get it by tromping through forests looking for wax balls of angry and then poking them with a stick... It's understandable that few want the job of collecting honey. But the Codex Crystal has ideas about bees, and has been showing you ways to - you think - attract bees to specially made hives and collect the honey without being stung as much. A reliably source of honey could be very profitable.
Cost: 0. Progress: 0/[??300-500??]
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Wait, Beekeeping isn't already a thing in this setting? How? It has been araound since Ancient Egypt IRL!
 
me.me.here said:
On the one hand I'd like to keep working on standard weights and measures (we grabbed cast iron plows as a quick thing to start making us cash - following it up with more quick things to make us cash just smacks of never actually investing in long term benefits rather than the next low-hanging fruit), but on the other hand I don't want to piss off the locals with blatant audits.
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Don't get me wrong. I want it, too, but I want a second long-term profit machine to guarantee we get through the first three years of fines alive. Standardization is helpful for a lot of things, but it doesn't pay off fast enough to cover our costs in the short term, like bee-keeping or vodka brewing will. Once either of them is done, I'm perfectly happy to go standardized, because we'll have a well and truly solid quarterly to work with (I'm suspecting minimum 6-8 profit/quarter with either of the luxury good businesses+the mill+our current assets, averaging close to 11/quarter), that should get us over the yearly profit humps of 15 and 20 without starving our progression.

I'm only really avoiding beekeeping because I'm concerned it will be a slower and lower profit start-up (taking ~a year to scale into a reasonably good profit), if probably lower cost, than vodka brewing, which we can expect to be kind of similar in complexity and effort to the one-stage mill project. I think our next big profit-generator needs to be on the quick-and-dirty side of the scale, so we can have it up at full production before the end of year 2.
 
me.me.here said:
On the one hand I'd like to keep working on standard weights and measures (we grabbed cast iron plows as a quick thing to start making us cash - following it up with more quick things to make us cash just smacks of never actually investing in long term benefits rather than the next low-hanging fruit), but on the other hand I don't want to piss off the locals with blatant audits.
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Consider that the subtle audit has a DC of 70 and the description of our failure last time said something like, "You failed, but you rolled high enough that people didn't catch on to what you were doing." I'm worried that failing the subtle audit badly enough that the locals catch on would be worse than doing a blatant audit. People aren't likely to be happy about it, but the MC is doing his job AND improving the area so that people should make more money anyway. It's a lot easier to work in the mine for one thing.

Also, if we fail the subtle audit, we're NOT catching the people cheating the local governor who already hates us. Genenieve seems very good at her job, and I wouldn't put it past the governor to order his people to make sure we're not shorting him of his due. Hopefully, the mill prototype will help prove that we're aiming to increase the local wealth instead of give it all to the government.
 
[X] Plan For Next Year
-[X] Exercise with Sasha!
-[X] Forgework.
-[X] [Free] More Horse Collars.
-[X] Call for Casting.
-[X] Vodka Brewing outline.
-[X] Mill prototype demo.
-[X] [FREE] Correspondence.
-[X] Audit Preparation, sneaky.
-[X] ...Dreselin, are you there?
-[X] Cast the die of friendship.
 
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