How to Train Your Endbringer
- Thread starter RavensDagger
- Start date
- Location
- Canada
Lay off her a bit, she didn't grow up learning basic situational handling from actually useful stuff and almost certainly got the standard cannon fodder indoctrination of enduring things and ignoring bullies... no you fool, if someone bullies you and doesn't get bored before you get actually annoyed, STRIKE BACK! I learnt that in goddamned kindergarten... albeit in China which has quite a different child-rearing culture.
For example, I have a set of 6 picture books of the Art of War, covering 13 volumes of that work, which I got as a gift when I was 7 and emigrating to Canada. I'm a year or two older than Taylor, so the era is about right, but such a mentally sophisticated work doesn't strike me as an American liberal arts major mom's sort of thing for the kids. I read all of the six volumes of the picture book version (picking ancient battles as examples for each concept mentioned in the Art of War) through at least ten times in times of boredom.
Plus Americans would surely be scandalized by the renditions of late Shang and early Zhou folks, including concubines and serving girls. In fact I get the feeling (I took a long time to realize that the level of clothes was unusual for a book for children, because I'd shrugged it off as "historical" for many years) they barely squeaked those loincloth-only women (the men would be shrugged off) past the Chinese censors because it's the last case study in IIRC the first volume (the Fall of Xia case study in the end of the last volume had everyone wearing a LOT more clothes, despite it representing a scenario 600 years earlier than the Fall of Shang). Not to mention North American culture tries to insulate children from violence to the point where my sister tells me her classmates from middle school did not know that anything and everything was a (usually blunt) weapon in the event of a fight for your life, so I HIGHLY doubt picture books for the Art of War would catch on in NA cause "think of the children!!!111!!!" i.e. setting their kids up to have a higher chance of being collateral damage
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- Location
- Missouri
Last I heard Butcher was still in Cherish's tomb in the Bay up until GM blasted it.
Also, you make a very interesting point.
Now I want a Canon Start fic where it diverges after Taylor gets Butchered right as the Teeth hit town... and is just fine. All the power, and only like 1% of the insanity.
Once that happens, the Teeth and the Undersiders merge and become an even more powerful organization under Skitter's control. Be interesting to see how things shake out from there.
- Location
- Earth Prime
Ironically, America tends to have a reputation for being far more violence-accepting and confrontational than Asian cultures. And seems to have that reputation both in Asian cultures and in America. (Admittedly, I know more about Japanese views on the US than Chinese, and my knowledge there is limited and heavily based on anime depictions of Americans.)
- Location
- Pale Blue Dot
Well. Looks like Jack is trying for an end run. And whoever ordered Dragon not to tell Taylor why she shouldn't go out for a picknick right now should probably be taken out and shot. At least now we know what's been keeping the PRT busy. But there's no way, no how, they don't have eyes on the situation. Satellites and wondering why their spotters are not returning radio messages, if nothing else. If they give the S9 the chance to talk with Queen Administrator uninterrupted for a while without even trying to interfere they might actually count as less competent than in canon.
- Location
- Canada
That's because all the other Butchers took one look at this nutter and went "lol nope gonna try to fix her, would be much more hilarious... and challenging."
Because I think Taylor's more mentally ill than at least half of them, put together.
Chinese are publicly far more encouraging of girls to stand up violently for themselves if they feel they are in danger. (EDIT: in the past this was to stand up to Traditional China. These days, this is because if you aren't ready enough to shank someone you can easily have kidnapper rings try to drag you off in broad daylight if you're walking alone or without a sufficiently large group. Stabbing the stranger who tries to grab you while pretending it's a domestic dispute might get you in some legal trouble but it's sure as hell better than getting kidnapped and sold.)
They see American men as basically unchanged culturally from when they were busy genociding their way across the great Plains though. So... It's a gender roles difference.
If there's one great thing Mao did, it was to look at the misogyny in China, including foot-binding, and basically kick the table over on that. Sure, it didn't clear away anything near all of it, but it's far more acceptable for a girl in China to physically beat a bully down than in America.
If there's two great things Mao did then the second one is basically wiping out the Chinese opium addiction and being very tough on drugs.
Levi can detect his bullshit like he detected Glory Girl's, don't worry
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Arafell
Verified Cephalon
- Location
- Oregon
If I were him, I'd have had Bonesaw send a civilian with a face mask.
Interesting thought, what happens if hatchet face gets close?
- Location
- Russia
He goes splat before getting close enough for her power to shut off, because this Taylor, despite being a bit of a ditz, seems to be smart enough to set up protections. And one of them is probably ¨Don´t let any active power nullifiers close enough to me to shut off my power¨ or something.
- Location
- Canada
I'm sorry but these words don't seem to fit together. A Taylor Hebert not being Leeroy Jenkins prone is rarer than unicorns.
- Location
- Can't read map
He came to sharpen his silver tongue, for that time he gets chance of speaking to Scion, starting Golden Morning.
Soldraconis
(Verified Sun Dragon(s) on Fire)
- Location
- Suns 1 through 84. Sometimes Sun 85 or higher
The Queen Administrator is not that easy to convince. Especially after someone ruined her picnic.
She will likely just ignore him.
Levi can detect his bullshit like he detected Glory Girl's, don't worry
Well, that depends on Jack's shard actually. It is capable of influencing other shards - WoG that it influenced Imp's shard during her attempt on him and influenced S9's shards all the way... So if it does not stop mastering Taylor immediately Jack is done.
Problem is, it still capable to passively feed information about shard-host connection of QA to Jack and let Jack brainwash Taylor with words and deeds.
Also, let's remember this Wildbow's post:
Wildbow
56 points·3 years ago
Jack beats Citrine, Siberian, Grey Boy (until interfered with by outside sources), Number Man and arguably Contessa.
So canon Jack can't be taken out by QA - only by Unit 02 before he convinces QA to order Unit 02 not ot harm him.
Akasha
The Only Truth
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- 「̛̛́́ ͏̨҉̕͏ ͏̶̴」
That's an exaggeration. He certainly didn't manage to keep Harbinger, arguably his only friend, on the team. He also failed to convince Panacea, and her entire world was practically in shambles at the time. It doesn't matter what he says, if the person he's speaking to simply refuses to listen. I'm pretty sure the only reason he's been anywhere near as successful was the fact that his power subtly nudged people into listening him, instead of splattering him on the spot. That is not an option here, because Shards are not cunning, creative or proactive enough to completely alter their own action pattern (feed info + brainwash -> just feed info) on the fly. The Shard will see a Shard like any other Shard, and it will act like it did on all other occasions - it will try to influence, and it will be detected. Thus, its host will be splattered.
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- Location
- Existance
There might be a problem with that idea.
Taylor already gave Leviathan orders:
- Secure Taylor
- Follow any other orders she gives him
- Don't hurt anyone unless he has to to secure Taylor
We know that Leviathan considers outside influences to be something he has to secure Taylor from:
We've also seen that Leviathan just straight up knows what everyone's shards are and what they can do.
If Jack's shard convinces Taylor to do something, it's likely that Leviathan will take steps to stop the influence as per his primary directive. If Taylor orders him not to? Well, that's not the first thing in Leviathan's priority list.
We'll see how it ends up, I guess.
Communicator: Hey, QA, mind telling me what's the deal with your host?
QA: Well, I gave her control over * UNIT02 SMASH!!!! *... first chance to talk with someone, damn!
Or
Communicator: Hey, QA, mind telling me what's the deal with your host?
QA: Well, I gave her control over * UNIT02 SMASH!!!! but Wild Siberian appears * this guy who *UNIT02 vaporizes all the water from Manton* just killed * UNIT02 SMASH MORE!!!! * your and Projection's hosts...
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- Existance
What I'm really interested in is whether or not Jack's shard can influence things at all. Because if you look at the way things have been said it's a little ambiguous as to how, exactly, Taylor's controlling things.
To me, it looks like QA is what's set Leviathan up to take orders from Taylor, but QA isn't itself necessarily the thing controlling Leviathan.
Leviathan said it himself, Taylor doesn't control him specifically, he's just been set to take her directives as his own. Taylor tells him what she wants him to do, and that becomes what he does/changes how he acts.
Which means Jacks shard might tell QA it wants Jack to stay alive, and QA turns around and just shrugs because it's out of QA's hands.
RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
- Location
- Australia
Is it just fanon that Jack Slash's shard is called Broadcast?
- Location
- Existance
It doesn't really matter. Anything from an Entity is just a translation of their idea of what the shard is for, a description of function, rather than name.
- Location
- Oceanside
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- Mi
Depends on the cheese, hard cheeses like Parmesan, Assiago, or even Sharp Cheddar, not much lactose. Softer cheeses like Cream Cheese, Ricotta, Brie, or Mozzarella, can actually have a fair amount of lactose.
- Location
- Canada
Those are made with new milk or cream mixed in, so yeah, lactose...
- Location
- Mi
You said cheese had had negligible amounts of lactose, I merely pointed out that that is not the case for soft cheeses (generally, I'm sure there are exceptions).
- Location
- Canada
I am aware.
I should have made the distinction between aged cheeses and soft cheeses.
RavensDagger
Officially Infracted Speceist since 2019!
- Location
- Someplace Cold, Canada
So, I was going to post the next chapter next Monday, but after talking to ChoaticSky on Discord and bouncing ideas I accidentally the entire chapter. I think I might post it tomorrow instead on account of it being rather short.
Unfortunately that means less time for me to figure out the chapter that comes after that, so I might need all of your help idea bouncing afterwards!
Unfortunately that means less time for me to figure out the chapter that comes after that, so I might need all of your help idea bouncing afterwards!