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Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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    • Sirrocco said:
    Possibly Xinya just goes for more than one? I mean, she's the one who's most enthusiastic about this.
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    Well she did stress it was a reusable method and more children improve the standing and power of the Xie family.
    occipitallobe said:
    The children of female Nascents were thus monstrously strong and even rarer than they were strong... and now she had a method to conceive one. A re-usable method! There was a great expenditure, but who cared? This was the sort of thing money was for.
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    Pregnancies back-to-back like that aren't normally either feasible or desirable, and somehow I doubt that this method makes them feasible.
     
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    Honestly, I'm not sure that any notional super-babies will be all that shocking compared to the Kings and Favored/Chosen/Whatever that are already running around.
     
    TheCount said:
    imagine if they naturally have the Blood of Silver though...
    Though, i say we give it to them anyways, just to be sure.
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    I doubt it would be cost-efficient or viable. Remember Manuel has a little bronze-blood as possible for his level. Xie might help with that but at most (unless the dice gods say hold my beer) it'll be average bronze-blood with good talent.
    Silver-blood should be given to those with the best affinity, or proven assets.
    Also, it would be seen as gross nepotism unless they actually had a high affinity. Remember Manuel's marriage to Xie is to curb her nepotistic influence and further tie Manuel to the clan. It could be seen as Xie digging her claws into Old-Gold and trying to make a dynasty.
     
    weeblypanda said:
    I doubt it would be cost-efficient or viable. Remember Manuel has a little bronze-blood as possible for his level. Xie might help with that but at most (unless the dice gods say hold my beer) it'll be average bronze-blood with good talent.
    Silver-blood should be given to those with the best affinity, or proven assets.
    Also, it would be seen as gross nepotism unless they actually had a high affinity. Remember Manuel's marriage to Xie is to curb her nepotistic influence and further tie Manuel to the clan. It could be seen as Xie digging her claws into Old-Gold and trying to make a dynasty.
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    "As little bronze blood as possible" for a Nascent is enough that a single drop of it can turn a mortal into a statue of solid Bronze - and here we are talking about the kid of two Nascents. The thing about the Blood is it thickens as you advance, and the baby's starting point as a "mortal" will be similar to what Manuel / Xinya have at Nascent Soul. By Core? It should be more than enough for the Blood of Silver - if the baby cannot get it, how could anyone else ever hope to, really.

    The baby starts out with Core-level body durability and Foundation-level speed in the first place, and this advantages tapers off as it advances. Now, obviously, most of it isn't even the Blood but keep in mind that it can be infused with as much of it as possible while at Mortal / QC, which is exponentially cheaper to do than bloodline infusions in the later stages.
     
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    Timewarriors said:
    That or the Baby is a scrub and you should just bank on the next one.
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    Well they don't fall from trees, at minimum Xinya has to carry them and xianxia tropes dictate the pregnancy is probably not as short as 9 months, and then of course it costs a fortune per kid - they have a much better shot at unorthodoxies than most but they are not going to be particularly relevant in the quest's timeframe.
     
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    Crunbum said:
    Well they don't fall from trees, at minimum Xinya has to carry them and xianxia tropes dictate the pregnancy is probably not as short as 9 months, and then of course it costs a fortune per kid - they have a much better shot at unorthodoxies than most but they are not going to be particularly relevant in the quest's timeframe.
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    Can't a baby with such a early start tangle with resources well beyond his level and use them to advance? I mean, he got core level durability, does it translate to being able to survive consuming a core level beast? If not, they can still casually coast on eating the best of the best with their own effort alone, without requiring attention from a core formation or something.
     
    Roth963 said:
    Can't a baby with such a early start tangle with resources well beyond his level and use them to advance? I mean, he got core level durability, does it translate to being able to survive consuming a core level beast? If not, they can still casually coast on eating the best of the best with their own effort alone, without requiring attention from a core formation or something.
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    Presumably eating a Core-tier Beast Core and such isn't going to benefit the baby as much as it would another cultivator precisely because it already has a Core/Foundation level physique to begin with. Whereas a normal person would have to grasp insane opportunities and go through hell to reforge their body to that standard ahead of time, the baby is already born with it, but since its a higher baseline its also correspondingly harder to improve any further. The advantage tapers off as it advances and while it doesn't fall off completely, it shouldn't be insane anymore by the time the baby hits Core Formation. Now, are its tribulations going to be easier as a result? Sure, the physical part of them anyway since it doesn't get any more powerful just because it has a ridiculous physique - but it still has to have the will and comprehension to pass them or else its gonna die like any other cultivator and while it should have a more or less guaranteed road to Core Formation, its chance to actually hit Nascent Soul is going to be little greater than that of your average Core.
     
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    Crunbum said:
    but since its a higher baseline its also correspondingly harder to improve any further.
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    Yes, but the baby's cultivation isn't as advanced, just his body, if the baby can pull a blood path style hyper fast progress by eating core beasts as a qi condension, it could be reaching core formation in it's twenties or thirties.

    Pushing to nascent might be significantly more difficult though, assuming he doesn't get some special benefits.
    Crunbum said:
    but it still has to have the will and comprehension to pass them or else its gonna die like any other cultivator.
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    Yes, that's another problem.
     
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    Roth963 said:
    Yes, but the baby's cultivation isn't as advanced, just his body, if the baby can pull a blood path style hyper fast progress by eating core beasts as a qi condension, it could be reaching core formation in it's twenties or thirties.

    Pushing to nascent might be significantly more difficult though, assuming he doesn't get some special benefits.

    Yes, that's another problem.
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    Advancement takes comprehension, its not just about gobbling up energy. This takes time.

    Blood Path cannot advance by eating Beasts, its part of the curse laid out on it by the Heavens after Soup Chief killed the Third Turtle Young... since its a Beast's Heaven we operate under in the first place. As for being able to advance quickly via Blood Path in general... anyone can. There really aren't any limits on that, because what it does in the first place is consume the target down to their cultivation and Dao insights and even memories.
     
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    Crunbum said:
    Blood Path cannot advance by eating Beasts, its part of the curse laid out on it by the Heavens after Soup Chief killed the Third Turtle Young... since its a Beast's Heaven we operate under in the first place. As for being able to advance quickly via Blood Path in general... anyone can. There really aren't any limits on that.
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    I didn't mean by using blood path, but in similar speed, blood path is capable of jumping a qi condension to core in days, the super baby might be capable of pulling off something similar by taking core formation cultivation resources and surviving thanks to his physique.
     
    Changing my vote to this

    [X] Plan: What The Lady Wants, She Gets
    - [X] Keep Manuel hidden in the Yuan, waiting to hunt enemy Nascents. You never know what might be becoming.
    - [X] Redeploy Xinya to the Pass, laying in reserve to jump on the enemy reinforcements that will seek to stop Rina from reopening it.

    Like this plan a tad more.

    And regarding any future child of the two newly weds whose last name will they have? Will the kids get Konstantine last name or inherit Xinyas last name? Or will that be up to us?
     
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