As a former fgo player who usually get spooked by Stheno and always burns her, I want Taylor to give her an Alexandria experience and punt her in the head with a baton... And since Taylor saw her comrades getting 'mastered' I hope she'll intensify the beatings lol
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As a former fgo player who usually get spooked by Stheno and always burns her, I want Taylor to give her an Alexandria experience and punt her in the head with a baton... And since Taylor saw her comrades getting 'mastered' I hope she'll intensify the beatings lol
The thought of Taylor somehow choking a goddess to death through the use of a gratuitous amount of bugs in front of the twins and servants sounds funny as hell.
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The hypocrisy is strong in Taylor, as expected.
Who is she to fell violated and disgusted when she did the same on a much grander and frankly cruder and more traumatic way. Though in a dark way, I'm sure all her puppets would've wanted her to get a taste of her own medicine.
Who is she to fell violated and disgusted when she did the same on a much grander and frankly cruder and more traumatic way. Though in a dark way, I'm sure all her puppets would've wanted her to get a taste of her own medicine.
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AlexChaos
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In fact, Taylor was exposed to the Master: Jack Slash (influence through Shard) and Velefor (subdues everyone he sees). Jack Slash is a fine-tuning, at the subconscious level, and it's easy to overcome if your Shard is happy with you. The situation with Velefor was similar to what you wrote - Queen Administrator got angry and Taylor, along with her Shard, ate his eyes in a swarm.
I originally thought you want Taytay to see if she can drown an actual God(dess) with bugs, but punting her in the head works too.
Still, here is to hoping this doesn't completely turn Taytay against the Gorgon sisters. The other two are alright (by Greek deity definition). It's merely this one that really takes the cake…
Isiri Pudireach
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And yet Taylor didn't make the Heartbreaker connection. She got close with Alec, but didn't go all the way.
AlexChaos
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Oh, I am sure that the death of all mankind from squabbles and Scion was preferable to several hours of forced submission. Don't take things out of context. Moreover, after defeating the space worm, Taylor let everyone go and allowed herself to be executed. People in the police carry guns and sometimes shoot people, does that make the police hypocrites if they stop others for it?
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I mean, she is, Valefor, and she devours his eyes for it. But yeah, it usually didn't come up.
Part of that is because Master powers that affect humans in that way were relatively rare. The only ones we hear about on that level are Cherie, Heartbreaker and Valefor, and Valefor is dealt with rather ruthlessly before he can even try anything against Taylor, and she never encounters Heartbreaker. She did deal with some of Cherie's emotional control, she had the nasty habit of pushing her emotional reactions into her bugs, and Cherie wasn't focusing on Taylor as she was screwing with everyone at the time.
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Yeaaaah, Stheno is just a massive bitch compared to Medusa and Eurayle. Glad I never got spooked by her, and I'm burning her if she does come, like I did with Fionn. I do hope this doesn't complicate things too much with Eurayle and Asterios later on though.
I wonder if Tamamo Cat is also on the island, like she was in original Septem. Or maybe... tiny Alexander?
I wonder if Tamamo Cat is also on the island, like she was in original Septem. Or maybe... tiny Alexander?
How ironic, considering that Stheno is a god so weak that becoming a Servant makes her stronger.
It occurred to me here that it probably wasn't a great situation to be up against Stheno with so many male Servants around, but Aife is also here, so I guess it doesn't matter.
God, Stheno is such a super bitch, I love her.
I will grant you grander and cruder, but more traumatic... That's hard to sell, is it more traumatic to have your body used as a soldier or pawn or to be used as a toy for another sadistic amusement.
I can understand that it may have been horrifying to a great extent but it really isn't hypocrisy if the situation is completely different, Stheno uses her power for her own enjoyment and it served no real purpose. Taylor on the other hand was backed into a corner and didn't even know what she was doing before she was doing it, as well as the fact that it was done in extreme desperation to not only save her life but the life of all humanity.
And while I agree that her victims would enjoy the catharsis of Taylor being mind controlled comparing the monstrosity of the actions is hard to do when comparing the vast differences in the scenario and motives between the two.
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Huh I'm more familiar with the story she was just some pretty girl who got boned in Athene's temple, so Athene responded the only reasonable way and cursed her.
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Honestly I'm more surprised that Stheno could control Taylor. If I recall correctly, unlike in the case of Mata Hari where the Male-only qualifier in her Charm is limited to gameplay and is far more powerful in lore, Stheno and Euryale are the same in that lorewise, they are the same in that their Authority is limited to charming males and it was only a quirk of gameplay that turned one into a largely useless Insta-death effect and the other a powerful nuke against male bosses.
So Stheno shouldn't have been able to charm Taylor in the first place.
The problem was? Stheno and Euryale were considered so beautiful that sailors and warriors would frequently arrive in the Isle and attempt to abduct them. Acting in their defense, Medusa took down these "heroes", turning them to stone. But over time, the frequency of the invaders and the sisters tendency to drink blood led to Medusa getting more and more corrupted by the people she fought off.
In the beginning, she just petrified the men. Then, she fought them with her brute strength. Then, the injuries she inflicted became less practical and more for getting enjoyment in the act. Then she started eating the invaders, drinking in their blood. More and more, this continued while Stheno and Euryale watched in horror as Medusa slowly began to transform into Gorgon.
In the end, Stheno and Euryale were forced to make a choice. To try and leave their Isle, leave Medusa behind and fare the outside world, or... meet Medusa for the last time, as Gorgon, before their inevitable end. And though Stheno and Euryale were bullies to their younger sister Medusa, in the core of their hearts, they still loved her. They couldn't bear to abandon her.
And so, holding each other's hands, they walked towards the coiled serpent that their sister had become, surrounded by corpses, and met their grisly fate as one of Gorgon's last meals.
So Stheno shouldn't have been able to charm Taylor in the first place.
In Fate, the tale of the sisters is pretty different. Basically, the three of them were goddesses, minor goddesses of the Shapeless Isle. Stheno and Euryale were the "idols of eternal beauty", but unlike them, Medusa was different in that there was something about her that let her mature instead of staying childlike, gaining strength and physical might while Stheno and Euryale remained as weak but pretty as ever.
The problem was? Stheno and Euryale were considered so beautiful that sailors and warriors would frequently arrive in the Isle and attempt to abduct them. Acting in their defense, Medusa took down these "heroes", turning them to stone. But over time, the frequency of the invaders and the sisters tendency to drink blood led to Medusa getting more and more corrupted by the people she fought off.
In the beginning, she just petrified the men. Then, she fought them with her brute strength. Then, the injuries she inflicted became less practical and more for getting enjoyment in the act. Then she started eating the invaders, drinking in their blood. More and more, this continued while Stheno and Euryale watched in horror as Medusa slowly began to transform into Gorgon.
In the end, Stheno and Euryale were forced to make a choice. To try and leave their Isle, leave Medusa behind and fare the outside world, or... meet Medusa for the last time, as Gorgon, before their inevitable end. And though Stheno and Euryale were bullies to their younger sister Medusa, in the core of their hearts, they still loved her. They couldn't bear to abandon her.
And so, holding each other's hands, they walked towards the coiled serpent that their sister had become, surrounded by corpses, and met their grisly fate as one of Gorgon's last meals.
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It seems the female servants weren't affected but the female masters of the group were, which is weird. Like it makes sense for it to work on Ritsuka but I don't get why it worked on Taylor or Rika.
Isiri Pudireach
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From what I remember, when she uses it in either an interlude or an event, it affects the player character no mater what gender you picked. It might just be that as humans, they are more susceptible than Servants.
I'm sorry, I understand the words "there's a limit" and "Taylor", but I just don't see how they fit together.
xbox432
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You might want to reword this. The line "we don't have any of the Noble Phantasms used to defeat her" is incorrect. They have one, Harpe. Which Mash mentions shortly after this line.
It's similar ends but different methods. Taylor did body jacking, overriding people's direct body control but they were still conscious just prisoners in their bodies. Though to be fair she did make a point to pick people from the yangban, teacher's pets and the people still in the birdcage so people who were bad enough to be in the birdcage without being trusted enough to join the fighting effort and 2 groups of people who did mental control or where under it but had been interfering with the fight scion effort by more than not participating actively causing problems by atking and stealing supplies and people from all over including the fight scion bases.
Though she did pick up others that's how she padded the numbers quickly. As a matter of fact because they were fully conscious and in their right minds the whole time they were being puppeted into fighting Scion they were freaking out and since one had a stroke with a few others not far off she used Canary's power to make them all be calm to keep them alive. Overall though while it wasn't like she knew the result when she spoke to Amy about the corona altering as some people would have you believe instead of desperate flailing it was the best chance they had against Scion who would have killed everyone so it was, while regrettable and horrible, arguably necessary and she directed it to as many bad people as she could.
On the other hand Stheno is doing it because she thinks it's her natural right and is twisting their minds to make them want to serve her and fight their comrades by making them feel inferior and that she is superior along with what seems to be hazy thinking in general. In the process of doing so they are also going against the effort to save humanity. While the ends are the same which is more traumatic is debatable. Taylor is also making these comments right after it's happened and the emotions are at their highest and rawest she may very well reflect on it later but I would still argue it's a horrible thing to experience regardless just because one of the people Stheno chose to do it to happened to have done something similar to others in the past does not change that or excuse that.
So this didn't actually happen Valefor never lost his eyes but once he was taken down which I believe involved using bug clones as decoys while he was down since 2 pretty powerful members of Haven were there and being rude along with causing problems as soon as they found out they'd beaten Valefor they started demanding he be turned over including a threat of crushing them under a car. Taylor chose to blind him so he didn't get away without consequence so she did it by having bugs grab his eyelid to lift it while another wormed its way into the gap and did something that blinded him without obvious cause so people would freak that she could somehow do that.
It is as already covered tho I'd note that not all of the Athena's temple one has it be voluntary on Medusa's part. It is also worth noting that I've heard from people deeper into Nasu lore she has Pegasus because he was a gift to her from Poseidon while she was alive and Nasu Athena was supposedly jealous of Medusa's beauty so some people claim there was a curse involved but most do say she spread if not created the tale of the wicked man eating monster Medusa keeping the 2 goddesses prisoner.
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I could swear she was hit by Cherish during the S9 arc.
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That why I said it happened to her rather than saying she did it.
The Ancient Greeks apathy towards consent makes it pretty hard to trust nearly any pairing thats happening.