fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
If we succeed we are free to come right back and attack them from an unexpected angle.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
- Start date
- Crossover Fantasy
- Location
- Terror Australis
I think it might be slightly better to ask "Why is he working with them" just so we get a complete look at his reasons.
Also remember the "missions" we know the group with the Wan Kuei, "To uncover and make use of more powers like your own/To be free of Emma-O through the auspices of your power", it is quite probable that the second motive is actually J's and there may not be a split in the Vampires.
My objection here is telling her before have a chance to go over the information OOC. Might be that there isn't a good way to tell her, or that we're better off keeping her out of it entirely.
We shouldn't allow it to spring in the first place. -3 DC is a specific and fixed advantage, it can't outweigh every possible disadvantage they could throw at us.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
So we aren't going to the meeting?
I don't think we should as things stand. The point of all this recon work is so that we can balance things in our favor. Just knowing about the issues is barely worth anything if we don't do something with it.
Right now I'm inclined towards firebombing the ritual site before they're done and killing anyone who survives that once we're confident we've wrecked their setup.
With either a specialty in death/dead/undead, or her father's origins in the British Isles.
Having actually thought it over? I agree with Yog that we should talk with Tuzi first.
Typically, in police investigations IRL and their media depictions, you talk to the loved ones about new discoveries because it might jolt memories or recontextualize stuff they didnt think was originally noteworthy. And we're still gathering intel.
For example, if J's death was faked, why?
If he was a willing accomplice, or even a brainwashed one, there would be no reason for it. He'd have just laid low.
And whose body was planted in his place?
What I dont agree with is burning Crown foci.
Its a bugbear of mine that Yog is a little too cavalier about expending foci.
We'll have to ask the QM in the morning, but as things stand, I dont believe supernatural custom and etiquette require that you walk into a meeting given evidence of the other party preparing treachery.
We still might, if we think we can turn it to out advantage.
I dont think there IS a ritual site.
Or rather, that the ritual site is likelty the entire area of Chinatown.
And their hotel address is a hundred apartment 3-star hotel in Chinatown, which is nowhere to start a fight in.
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[X] Tell Bùshì Tùzǐ about J's survival and what the akuma are likely planning for him
[X] Cyberdevils: Hack into Jaslin Hotel computers, with interest in security cameras and every room that has been occupied for the last two weeks, plus the room number(s) the akuma gave us.
RATIONALE
The rationale is straightforward:
-If she isnt informed, it leaves her vulnerable if she gets approached by one of the akuma's minions and surprised with news of his survival, and told she needs to do X to keep him alive
-Telling her might remind her of stuff we should know
He is probably under duress.
Certainly, if he'd been an enthusiastic confederate there would have been no need to draw attention to him by faking his death and moving him elsewhere. But that doesnt mean he didnt have prior dealings with the Thousand Hells, or someone
What her reaction tells us informs what our next set of actions are, and where we should be aiming the Crown at.
We know at least one akuma, if not the entire party is checked in at the Jaslin Hotel:
Hack the computer records, find out which rooms have been occupied since the akuma showed up in town, and get into the security cameras, see if there have been any staff disruptions or anything out of the ordinary,
This is what we got the Cyberdevils Background for.
[X] Tell Bùshì Tùzǐ about J's survival and what the akuma are likely planning for him
[X] Cyberdevils: Hack into Jaslin Hotel computers, with interest in security cameras and every room that has been occupied for the last two weeks, plus the room number(s) the akuma gave us.
RATIONALE
The rationale is straightforward:
-If she isnt informed, it leaves her vulnerable if she gets approached by one of the akuma's minions and surprised with news of his survival, and told she needs to do X to keep him alive
-Telling her might remind her of stuff we should know
He is probably under duress.
Certainly, if he'd been an enthusiastic confederate there would have been no need to draw attention to him by faking his death and moving him elsewhere. But that doesnt mean he didnt have prior dealings with the Thousand Hells, or someone
What her reaction tells us informs what our next set of actions are, and where we should be aiming the Crown at.
We know at least one akuma, if not the entire party is checked in at the Jaslin Hotel:
So tell our Cyberdevils to take a look there.
Hack the computer records, find out which rooms have been occupied since the akuma showed up in town, and get into the security cameras, see if there have been any staff disruptions or anything out of the ordinary,
This is what we got the Cyberdevils Background for.
Still not sold; I'm not saying we shouldn't tell her at all, but at minimum I want to know what it is first so we consider if we actually want to share it all.
They're probably initiating at least part of it somewhere else. I mean Molly saw no evidence of a ritual just looking at the murderers, so presumably part of the machinery of it so to speak is run somewhere else.
There's also the matter of control. We'd have to be pretty stupid to enter Chinatown if the whole thing was glowing with fuck you magic, so they likely want to be able to flip it on pretty precisely.
Even if there isn't I still think we're better off killing them and disrupting their operations before they get a chance shift things their way.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Okay, found this while doing a re-read, and I am really curious how this bit of metaphysics interacts with our Murder is Meat charm. What the heck must that look like from a DF perspective? I guess we'll find out next time we have Harry or another spiritually sensitive person around while we use the charm, and we're almost definitely going to be using the charm against some of the akuma, so it shouldn't be too long to figure out just how weird we are on this particular point.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
"though that is not a good translation because souls aren't meat."
Basically the charm says 'I beg to differ'.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Yog
Ok, fair point. How would you formulate the question exactly? I'll modify it to "what is the full detailed motivation"?
He almost certainly started working with them under duress (cake or die was probably his situation). Whether he's actually a motivated co-conspirator who wants to get infinite cosmic power, or a prisoner still is a question. Essentially, whether he's a collaborator, or an unwilling test subject. Basically what we need to know is "do we have to treat J as an enemy combatant, or will he take the first opportunity to escape, if given a chance and free of mind-control?". Ie if he's likely to be actively hostile.
[X] Plan gathering intelligence before a confrontation v. 2.0
-[X] Using your copy of Big Book of Yomi Wan, ask "what do the forces talked about in this book know about the type of object referred to by servants of Emma-O as Black Seed?" Pre-activate Occult Excellency to understand the answer better
-[X] Using the online page of Jaslin Hotel as the focus, ask "what are the plans the akuma staying in this hotel have for winning a confrontation with Molly and her allies?"
-[X] Cyberdevils: Hack into Jaslin Hotel computers, with interest in security cameras and every room that has been occupied for the last two weeks, plus the room number(s) the akuma gave us.
-[X] Drive by Pink Swan, and use the Crown to ask "What is the full detailed motivation of a former DJ of this club, known as J, for working with Wan Kuei?"
-[X] Recover essence by spending time in a bottle of bleach which your father will carry while moving between locations.
-[X] Tell Bùshì Tùzǐ about J's survival and what the akuma are likely planning for him
--[X] Empathy excellency and All Things Betray to manage and read her reaction
Thing is, CCC doesn't care how you're *trying to escape*, only that you're restrained and doing something about it, so trying to kill them will absolutely activate it, after all, we can escape more easily if they're not there to stop us.
Remember, CCC encourages you to use the most long and convoluted possible method to get out of the situation if you want milk it for all its worth.
Update might be a little late today, I got a headache and there's no way to know how long it is going to stick around.
Hmm... not a lot of votes. I think I'll leave this up for now, maybe until tomorrow we'll see.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[x]Yog
I'm curious to see what the secondary mode implies on top of the immortal killing bit in the context.
The bolded is a separate clause from the rest, so if we assume the homebrew modification to the charm is directly replacing the bit about sending qualifing spirits to hell with eating them for essence then we're still getting something out of killing anything sentient.
Are we taking a bite without actually destroying them? If so does that do lasting harm, or are we just slurping off some of the loose life energy/recoverable bits of their soul? Do they experience true death as well, but are too light a snack to give essence back?
I'm inclined to think it's just temporary damage rather than spiritual maiming, but even in that case it sounds highly unpleasant.
Not a real difference mechanically since permanently dead things can't act on the mortal world either way, and the original soul isn't actually involved in a DF ghost in the first place so destroying it doesn't necessarily impact that aspect of things either.
Still interesting to speculate on though.
[x]Yog
- Location
- Germany
As seen from Soulfire in DF, souls are a regenerating ressource.
Some parts of them are, I don't think it's completely homogenous. See Bob talking about how Harry was walking around with the core of his soul exposed in ghost story.
I could be misremembering things, but I think that scene implied the soul had sections of varying importance and properties.
If we're taking anything in that case it's probably from thaf section, but it's worth noting that it's likely not all the same.
Looking at the plans as they are right now @Yog you might want to consider what to do if the Akuma are not all staying where you expect them to stay. I mean you are using the hotel to divine their minds, but all you know is that they used to stay at the hotel. Things may have changed especially as you and your companions have been poking around Chinatown quite openly. Basically assume the enemy has his own plans and eyes it can see you guys with as well.
Ok, that's a good point, and thanks for that. Would the change from "staying" to "stayed in the last two weeks" work?
[X] Plan gathering intelligence before a confrontation v. 2.0
-[X] Using your copy of Big Book of Yomi Wan, ask "what do the forces talked about in this book know about the type of object referred to by servants of Emma-O as Black Seed?" Pre-activate Occult Excellency to understand the answer better
-[X] Using the online page of Jaslin Hotel as the focus, ask "what are the plans the akuma that stayed in this hotel over the last two weeks have for winning a confrontation with Molly and her allies?"
-[X] Cyberdevils: Hack into Jaslin Hotel computers, with interest in security cameras and every room that has been occupied for the last two weeks, plus the room number(s) the akuma gave us.
-[X] Drive by Pink Swan, and use the Crown to ask "What is the full detailed motivation of a former DJ of this club, known as J, for working with Wan Kuei?"
-[X] Recover essence by spending time in a bottle of bleach which your father will carry while moving between locations.
-[X] Tell Bùshì Tùzǐ about J's survival and what the akuma are likely planning for him
--[X] Empathy excellency and All Things Betray to manage and read her reaction