Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Most of the realm is covered in ice. There are absolutely mountains and even seas and deserts and such. I started making some illustrations and comments on this here. It's the civilization I am straining to think about.
Well the culture series or anything Iain M. Banks seems like it would be a place to start. He wrote a lot of immortal gigantic populations.

Now I am imagining the center of studying earth culture. They have the population that every aspect of earth can have been examined. After all we want our away teams to be able to fit in if needed.

Also the fact people are immortal means that there can be some very extreme spots.

Edit: Really we have to decide how much we want the people of our hell to know about earth.
 
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As always, I am eager for feedback.
This is a proper Molly-damned hell. Not that it wasn't before, but each iteration of this you've gone through has improved it. Sliding in vast in this last run really helps push it towards the world shaking glory and terror of the heirs of the primordials.

I'm still very concerned about having an unknown population of prison people who we need to crusade against, but honestly it's tempting despite that.

The only other new thing I'd have to say is that it might be worth accounting for the existence of Akuma in the escape paths you outline. If Molly becomes a baby Yama Queen then I don't see why she couldn't learn to do that, and if people already worship her as a goddess then cutting a deal so that they can explore the rest of the universe and still retain the ability to go home again could be very tempting to the inhabitants.

It might be a little awkward the first time she buys someone's soul, but I'm sure Molly would get used to it eventually. :V

Hope Father Forthill doesn't have a weak heart though, because that would be a very stressful visit to the confessional for everyone involved.
 
As your anima chases away the murk of the dead wizard you guess you see flesh of the thing already decomposition into a foul sludge, though the translucent five foot diameter shell just drifts slowly to the bottom of the lake. So that was a death curse you realize. Nasty. Snapping your shield closed you grab for the thing, it has to be some kind of magic after all. "Mine."

Sort of unrelated at the moment, but the thread's dead right now so this seems as good a time as any to ask.

Do we have any plans for this now that we can actually do some magical crafting? The shell of a powerful fomor flesh sorcerer seems like we could do something neat with.

We've basically only got magical material science, so nothing too active, but maybe we could make it into armor that regenerates itself after damage or something. If anyone in the ordo could work enchantment as a group ritual with us it might also be possible to make it into a real enchanted item, which could be cool.

Or we could ask Lydia reanimate it into Gary the Undead Sorcerous Snail, assuming it retains any worthwhile power as a zombie.
 
Even right now it's a bit straining my imagination to think of how this all works.
I guess the easiest way to do it is to say that everything earth has Molly's hell has a bigger and better version.

Bolshoi Theater we have a bigger and better versions complete with holograms and magical enhancement.

Forget Neyland Stadium with it's capacity of 101,915. Hanha Stadium can seat a million complete with magic allowing anyone in the stands to zoom in on any part of the action they want.

Christ the Redeemer is a statue of Molly expect it's actually a giant mecha perfectly sized for Molly.

The Colosseum expect it's bigger and regularly stages full scale battles only made possible by advances in medicine and the fact that everyone involved will just reborn if they die.

The Great Wall which surround the entire and stops monsters from wondering in. However it's not just stone, but metal with defenses and emplaced weaponry sufficient to resist Kaiju.

Only thing generally missing is giant monuments to ego like the pyramids. Because there is no point when you can just live longer and leave your mark that way.

Our hell has an abundance of prime locations to take Dresden on a date from the deniable to the blatant. Turns out every place has special seat reserved for her.
 
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Do we have any plans for this now that we can actually do some magical crafting? The shell of a powerful fomor flesh sorcerer seems like we could do something neat with.

Or we could ask Lydia reanimate it into Gary the Undead Sorcerous Snail, assuming it retains any worthwhile power as a zombie.
I'd avoid reanimating jack and or shit just on the basis of it providing poor optics. We make a lot of people uncomfortable as-is and, while we can defuse any tension with enough work, I just don't think it would be worth that tension in the first place. Lets make things easier on ourselves and those going to bat for us.

I don't begin to understand enough about Exalted mechanics to know what is possible but, from the Dresden side of things, it's remains seem like they would be the sort of thing used to either pull off something harshly entropy based... doubly so considering the association with water. It seems like a good way to corrode any opposing magical attempts within a boundary. I'm just spitballing though.
 
[X] Keep investigating the club and try to find out more about the dead DJ, if he had something like this hanging around his former place of work that means he must have been a full shaman and thus more likely to leave clues about what killed him and why
-[X] Activate All Things Betray, and occult excellency
 
Edit: Really we have to decide how much we want the people of our hell to know about earth.
They know something at least - see the section on the Covenant of the Empress to Be. The lore is that summoning was certainly among the magical practices of the Courts, even when they didn't exist. It's probably going to be a bit strange when those pieces of retroactive history slide in somehow and clash against reality. Who and what exactly could Mirror of the Changing Moon have summoned a thousand years before he existed? Does the fae and demonic creatures he called up exist? Did they exist before he existed? Do they suddenly remember interacting with him a thousand years ago?
I'm still very concerned about having an unknown population of prison people who we need to crusade against, but honestly it's tempting despite that.
Well, at least they would be unlikely to actually betray us - that's why I made them universally hostile. Yes, we'll need to subjugate them if we want to reach glories and horrors hidden within, and that's a good practice for leading armies, but they don't have other idols either. They are a piece of our soul that we'll need to master, not a hidden dagger behind our backs, ready to betray.
The only other new thing I'd have to say is that it might be worth accounting for the existence of Akuma in the escape paths you outline. If Molly becomes a baby Yama Queen then I don't see why she couldn't learn to do that, and if people already worship her as a goddess then cutting a deal so that they can explore the rest of the universe and still retain the ability to go home again could be very tempting to the inhabitants.
That's essentially second and fourth paths of escape. Second is explicitely "serve Molly in the outside world, and be released for services rendered". It's fluffed to be about combat, but I am fairly sure that if Molly hires someone to be her enchantment tutor or family doctor on the outside, that would also count. Fourth is a longer one, and it's "learn all you can learn, prepare for everything the world outside can throw at you, master yourself, then go out with the blessing of the realm, as a wandering hero who brings pride to your ancestors". It makes free agents, but it's for people who still want to be able to return, and to be associated with the Courts. It's essentially closest to us making proper Wan Xian, rather than Wan Kuei. Wan Kuei is the third path - you brave the absolute insanity that are the Wastes, and somehow escape. Almost everyone is expected to try and fail it.

If we are talking about purchasing souls... I'll have to think about it. This would probably be some sort of extension of Prayer Eating charm line, wouldn't it? Not quite Unbreakable Soul-Bonds, those are clearly for when we have the whole soul already, but above Prayer Eating. This could probably be fluffed as ensurance. Molly creating a vault of essentially phylacteries - pieces of people's souls held in Jade in the most secure section of her palace, so even if they are completely destroyed on the outside, they'll be restored, if possibly diminished, from those pieces. Yes, it'll grant her access to those souls, but that's an issue of trust. I'll think about writing a piece about "Jade Vault" or something.
Hope Father Forthill doesn't have a weak heart though, because that would be a very stressful visit to the confessional for everyone involved.
I am actually thinking that we'll get a visitation when we make our kingdom. That's a point where Molly is very much not a human anymore, but is definitevely an awakening Primordial, a World of her own. I am fairly sure that the rules for interacting with her would be at least somewhat different than they are for interacting with mortals at that point. Also that Soulgazing her would be... an interesting experience. We should probably make an actual "soulgazing the Abyss: guide to personal safety" guide before that. Because I don't think even saying "Be Not Afraid" would quite do it at that time.
Only thing generally missing is giant monuments to ego like the pyramids. Because there is no point when you can just live longer and leave your mark that way.
Those could be thaumaturgical buildings, designed to focus and shape the magical energies.
Our hell has an abundance of prime locations to take Dresden on a date from the deniable to the blatant. Turn out every place has special seat reserved for her.
I very much look towards sending Dresden on a several months long street-level investigation tour of the realm. Possibly with a Splintered Gale Incarnation clone in tow. He'll probably be able to present himself as a country bumpkin from a low tech community in the Forests somewhere. For him this could be a whole novel worth of adventures.
I'd avoid reanimating jack and or shit just on the basis of it providing poor optics. We make a lot of people uncomfortable as-is and, while we can defuse any tension with enough work, I just don't think it would be worth that tension in the first place. Lets make things easier on ourselves and those going to bat for us.
Reanimating is more Lydia's schtick. We bought her a charm to raise undead via her divine authority.
One thing our hell should certainly have is magic computers that Dresden can use.
Oh, this I have.
 
So I gather that after Molly gets her kingdom her wealth will be greater than the total wealth of the earth. Of course it's not that liquid, but Molly will be able to slap down a gold bar every time she wants to buy something without it ever effecting her finances.

Which is very much fitting the theme devils never seem to be short of cash for bribes.
 
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If anyone else is interested, I'm curious what people would make of the 'enlightening hell' I propose, where the hazard that makes it dangerous for people outside points of safety is that it makes it very easy to become enlightened/achieve theosis/nirvana. It's essentially such asqcted place that just by witnessing it people surpass their worldly desires and pass on to a better place/state of existence.

That combines very well with both the reincarnation and heavenly traits, and would also seem to fit with her being devout and having no desire to imprison souls, but instead to help them.
 
That's essentially second and fourth paths of escape. Second is explicitely "serve Molly in the outside world, and be released for services rendered". It's fluffed to be about combat, but I am fairly sure that if Molly hires someone to be her enchantment tutor or family doctor on the outside, that would also count. Fourth is a longer one, and it's "learn all you can learn, prepare for everything the world outside can throw at you, master yourself, then go out with the blessing of the realm, as a wandering hero who brings pride to your ancestors". It makes free agents, but it's for people who still want to be able to return, and to be associated with the Courts. It's essentially closest to us making proper Wan Xian, rather than Wan Kuei. Wan Kuei is the third path - you brave the absolute insanity that are the Wastes, and somehow escape. Almost everyone is expected to try and fail it.

If we are talking about purchasing souls... I'll have to think about it. This would probably be some sort of extension of Prayer Eating charm line, wouldn't it? Not quite Unbreakable Soul-Bonds, those are clearly for when we have the whole soul already, but above Prayer Eating. This could probably be fluffed as ensurance. Molly creating a vault of essentially phylacteries - pieces of people's souls held in Jade in the most secure section of her palace, so even if they are completely destroyed on the outside, they'll be restored, if possibly diminished, from those pieces. Yes, it'll grant her access to those souls, but that's an issue of trust. I'll think about writing a piece about "Jade Vault" or something.
I think that people born in hell that escape it would have different powers and requirements because they aren't dead sinners possessing their own bodies, they're people who made it to the mortal world intact and without having died a true death.

I don't think it'd be a prayer eating thing, it seems more like it should be its own technique. Buying and selling parts of souls is distinct from receiving worship even if they're something you can mix.

I also think there's an argument to be made for it being simple and cheap to break into, since it seems like half the idiots in the nevernever can do it if you're unwise enough to sign on the dotted line. By the time we have a hell open for business seems like it should be a natural progression.

As an aside, I sort of think you've added too many ways to get out.

One of the undersold bits of lore on the Yama Kings is that their hells started leaking souls when they attempted to dam them up to keep people forever.

If we make it possible to escape one way or better, hook up a mechanism to theoretically fulfill the role of a hell in the flow of souls, then it follows that it should be as easy get out of by other means. Even setting that aside, the other hells basically only have the "get out past the defenses" option, that's evidently all that's needed.

I also think it'd be worth considering what precisely should theoretically get people damned to the hell when discussing how they get out. So that we cover the basic functions that make it an afterlife rather than 'simply' a spirit world.
 
Reanimating is more Lydia's schtick. We bought her a charm to raise undead via her divine authority.
I'm not convinced that part particularly matters. Anything that happens within eyeshot of us is going to be blamed on us whether it was us, was even our idea, or not. Just like how not all the fires are Harry's fault.
 
One of the undersold bits of lore on the Yama Kings is that their hells started leaking souls when they attempted to dam them up to keep people forever.

I thought it was mentioned/ implies that it's also relevant that the Yama Kings started stealing pieces of the other spiritual realms, including the testing/ascension grounds to become a Wan Xian and incorporated them into Yomi Wan.

I'd like to build on the fact that the spiritual machinery that makes mortals into Wan Xian/Kuei are part of the Hells, including our Hell.

That's why I like making the hazards of our hell being 'involuntary' enlightenment.
 
We bought the Charm, now we are going to use it.

What a waste of XP that would be otherwise.
I think the ticket here is to make whatever we do really strange so it doesn't tick the same boxes. The wooden statues are one option that doesn't cause us issues, and if the snail thing works then it should as well.

We should just avoid reanimating anything that looks to much like a human or any classic bit of necromancy if we can at all avoid it.
I thought it was mentioned/ implies that it's also relevant that the Yama Kings started stealing pieces of the other spiritual realms, including the testing/ascension grounds to become a Wan Xian and incorporated them into Yomi Wan.

I'd like to build on the fact that the spiritual machinery that makes mortals into Wan Xian/Kuei are part of the Hells, including our Hell.

That's why I like making the hazards of our hell being 'involuntary' enlightenment.
They might have gotten some other spiritual worlds, but the proving grounds thing isn't how they got the jade vampires. I think that was pretty explicitly a mix of heaven's curse and hell's hubris.

I'm not opposed to having the capability. I just don't like having four additional mechanisms for getting out on top of the one the other hells are all obligated to take.
 
So, people asked for illustrations of how the court looks. I am not an artist at all. I did some work with midjourney, because it's actually awesome for making a "quick and dirty" images and inspiring imagination. These images are to be treated as "secondary canon" for the courts - they fit into the mood for me, but they are obviously limited. For example, I obviously couldn't reliably reproduce non-human inhabitants of the Court - those are too exotic for a neural net to generate reliably. If people feel they are dissonant or of insufficient quality and dectract from the setting, I'll get rid of them. SV has 20 images per post limit, so, if people like what they see, I'll make several posts. I have tons of images generated in the process of trying to make illustrations. I haven't figured out how to share MIdjourney galleries. If I do, I'll add the links.

I also added illustrations to "Sutras of Technology and Magic" post.

The towers of each city rise high indeed. So high, in fact, that the streets can barely be seen below. The red tint doesn't necessarily indicate the actual lighting of the city.

The monastery-forges of Mars City can be huge, technologically advanced complexes that nevertheless trace their style and ancestry back to before industrial age began. They are marvels of technology clad in the robes of tradition. In the actual Court, there are probably no mountains in the background, or, if they are, they are likely to be artificial.

The arts practiced in the neon-lit dojos range from unarmed combat...

to magical martial arts...

and more esoteric practices.

Mediation is also an important part of a life of a monk. There are those who meditate in the forges in order to perfect their craft,

And some who meditate in more serene places, where fountains of magic-rich water cascade endlessly.
The forge in "forge-monastery" is not just for show. Just like how monks on Earth traditionally brew bear, grow tea, produce clothes, the monks of Red City forge weapons, develop Sutras, enchant marvels.


The prompts I generally used had "cybernetic eastern monks" and "demonic eastern monks" in them. I know that Molly is not eastern, but the taint on her exaltation is strong, and she has been studying under a nepalese monk.

What I definitely wanted to show was that for all their ancient history and millenia long traditions, the monasteries are not stuck in the past as Earth understands the past. Augmentations are common, including some pretty extreme ones. Monks work with metal, and with advanced technology. They make sutras to house machine spirits, and enchantments for law enforcement. They seek enlightenment in understanding how the world works and improving it.

As might be noticed, a lot of monks have at least some cybernetics, including quite radical ones. Obvious tattoos and mystical enchantments are also present. That's deliberate. "reforging your body on the path to enlightenment" is a lot more literal for a number of monastic orders of the Courts than it is for Earthly practices. Many of the augmentations are supposed to be hand crafted by the monks themselves.

Overall, I aimed to make them be "industrial monks". It also connect to how modern War, and the city is supposed to be inspired by Mars, who is War, is very much a completion of now just people, but of industries.

Infinite Library is old. Older, likely, than any being currently actively interacting with the Court society at large. The records kept in it are equally old, if not even more ancient. Not all of them come in the form of books, or scrolls. Some are carved or biomantically grown into snake exoskeletons or kept in even more exotic forms. Most ancient ones, however, are preserved in the forms of circular stone tables, with a complex spiral notations. Kept preserved by spells and technology, they carry the knowledge of the ancients through millenia.


Infinite library is not called such in a mere self-aggrandizing feat of vanity. It is truly massive, and it would be easy for an unwary soul to get lost in its long passages. In order to find something in such a vast collection of knowledge, one needs catalogues. In modern times, computer terminals allow a user to easily navigate the expanses of the treasury of knowledge

The process of digitization of all knowledge held within in still ongoing, and is likely to take thousands cycles yet, but even now many a record is already kept in the electronic form. Some knowledge can be accessed through nooshperic connections. Some, which is more dangerous, requires a physical visit into the library and access to one of its terminals.

It is no wonder that Infinite Library has many machine spirits among its keepers. Ancient possessed tomes held in the deep vaults and lost underground corridors of the library are the first known SUTRAs, and it is from them than modern Machine Spirit civilization traces its origins.


Infinite Library welcomes students, researchers, explorers and any who holds interest in knolwedge ancient and modern, in fiction and non-fiction. Despite tens of thousands of people who visit it each day. there are always private rooms where a seeker of knowledge can work for many an hour undisturbed. Many researchers are quite messy, however.
 
I think that people born in hell that escape it would have different powers and requirements because they aren't dead sinners possessing their own bodies, they're people who made it to the mortal world intact and without having died a true death.
Probably closer to Wan Xian than Wan Kuei, yeah. It would fit with Molly having, in principle, her own heavenly authority.
I don't think it'd be a prayer eating thing, it seems more like it should be its own technique. Buying and selling parts of souls is distinct from receiving worship even if they're something you can mix.
That's arguable. Unbreakable Soul Bonds is very much "claim a soul of your follower as yours":
The Exalt can bond the heart and soul of a worshiper
to herself, allowing her to forever command that being's
unfailing loyalty. No torture, no drug, no blackmail can
force the target to betray the Exalt; if necessary, he will
bite off his tongue and die first. Nor will he ever cease to
love, protect, and worship the Exalt as his incarnate god.
System: This Charm can only be directed at some-
one who is a true, willing, and fervent worshiper of the
Exalt, and whose prayers the Exalt has consumed at
least 10 times with Prayer-Eating.
The Exalt comes upon her target in the midst of
devotions to her, spends 1 Essence, and makes a Will-
power roll against difficulty 4. If she accumulates three
or more successes, the target's soul is bound to her. He
now loves her unconditionally and forever; no other
power can overwrite this bond. This Charm is capable
of shattering and replacing existing powers of slavery
and obligation such as vampiric blood bonds. It lasts
for as long as the target lives, and perhaps even longer
if he lingers as a worshipful ghost.
As an aside, I sort of think you've added too many ways to get out.
Realistically, there are three ways that I described that actually lead to escape:
1) Serve Molly and she might release you
2) Physically escape - that's normal Wan Kuei method, and it's not easy with how Courts are set up
3) Go through a long period of training and enlightenment and be released. That's pretty much how "hell as rehabilitation" should work.

The other two are "die the final death" and "be hard enough that you are either a celestial exalt already, or should be" secret bonus stage. So, overall, despite flavoring, that's pretty much normal amount of ways out for a functioning rehabilitative correctional realm (i.e. hell how it should work).
One of the undersold bits of lore on the Yama Kings is that their hells started leaking souls when they attempted to dam them up to keep people forever.
Yeah, we shouldn't be doing that. There should be ways for souls to move on.
I also think it'd be worth considering what precisely should theoretically get people damned to the hell when discussing how they get out. So that we cover the basic functions that make it an afterlife rather than 'simply' a spirit world.
That's a good question. Obvious ways to get sent there after death would probably be:
1) Be Molly's worshipper- in this sense it's probably not just hell, but a general afterlife. Like Kakuri is also a paradise.
2) Be killed by Molly and deliberately sent there - that's up to us to decide with charms
When and if it starts functioning as a proper hell / afterlife integrated into reality... Well, that's a question.
I'm not convinced that part particularly matters. Anything that happens within eyeshot of us is going to be blamed on us whether it was us, was even our idea, or not. Just like how not all the fires are Harry's fault.
Odin uses undead all the time. Yes, they are sapient undead, but they are undead still. He faces no problems with anyone that we see. And Lydia does have her god father as a background on her charsheet, so I wouldn't be so sure we'll get blamed. Yes, we are the celestial exalt in the room, but she's also a semi-divine existence, who has her own thing going on.

Plus, as others have mentioned, she could also be animating wood statues.
We should just avoid reanimating anything that looks to much like a human or any classic bit of necromancy if we can at all avoid it.
I still say that we have to get the body of the Dragon our father slew. That would be a very good "big red button" for Lydia to have.
 
That's arguable. Unbreakable Soul Bonds is very much "claim a soul of your follower as yours":
The difference is a matter of business versus faith. You can buy souls in fractions and have them be mercenary or outright disloyal on a personal level, but you can't make a soul bond with someone who doesn't entrust their essence to you as their god.

Loyal servants are valuable, but being able to hire people who respect Molly without being willing to outright worship her is still added value.
Realistically, there are three ways that I described that actually lead to escape:
1) Serve Molly and she might release you
2) Physically escape - that's normal Wan Kuei method, and it's not easy with how Courts are set up
3) Go through a long period of training and enlightenment and be released. That's pretty much how "hell as rehabilitation" should work.

The other two are "die the final death" and "be hard enough that you are either a celestial exalt already, or should be" secret bonus stage. So, overall, despite flavoring, that's pretty much normal amount of ways out for a functioning rehabilitative correctional realm (i.e. hell how it should work).
The secret bonus stage is already the only way out of the other hells.

Your long period of enlightenment route is a good basis for a "hell functioning as they were supposed to" element, but it sounds like it spits you out whole to the mortal world instead of to reincarnation or whatever the next step in the lifecycle of the mortal soul is.
When and if it starts functioning as a proper hell / afterlife integrated into reality... Well, that's a question.
My thought is that it should reflect some struggle Molly is going through or key lesson she's learning. Especially if we can tie it to sympathy with the events that lead to her exaltation.

Doesn't really matter if it's narrow since all of the thousand hells are narrow these days.

Something to start with could be centering it on violating the sanctity of choice in others. The closer it gets to how Molly "sinned" to end up on that tree (and the greater their connection to Molly's sphere of influence) the better the claim gets.

Someone strong arming or gaslighting people would barely register at all, and register more strongly the more effort they made and the more convinced they are it was for their victims own good.

Max sympathy would be to use mind magic to save someone from themselves, rightly or wrongly, and then die as a result of it in Molly's physical presence.

Which can sort of feed into the enlightenment route out; you need to grow in understanding of other and yourself at each step to really complete it. To love and let go anyway.

Fun for wizards too, since Molly would basically be running the hell of the third law from their perspective.
I still say that we have to get the body of the Dragon our father slew. That would be a very good "big red button" for Lydia to have.
Feels like a waste to me. If we can get it without being cursed that's prime crafting material right there. Just imagine god crafting with the authority of wind's corpse; it's so deliciously heretical we might ascend to essence six on the spot.
 
The secret bonus stage is already the only way out of the other hells.
I don't agree. It's "escape bodily from hell" (route 3 of what I have written) that's the only way out of other hells. The secret bonus stage is rather more complex.
Your long period of enlightenment route is a good basis for a "hell functioning as they were supposed to" element, but it sounds like it spits you out whole to the mortal world instead of to reincarnation or whatever the next step in the lifecycle of the mortal soul is.
Well, yes, it kinda does. Reincarnation in the normal sense, and whatever "great beyond" there is in Dresden comsology... If Uriel wants them to be there, he damn well can come down and arrange them himself. Maybe the ritual of Endings is not a spirit eater charm equivalent, but rather that. It's a bit ambiguous.
My thought is that it should reflect some struggle Molly is going through or key lesson she's learning. Especially if we can tie it to sympathy with the events that lead to her exaltation.

Doesn't really matter if it's narrow since all of the thousand hells are narrow these days.

Something to start with could be centering it on violating the sanctity of choice in others. The closer it gets to how Molly "sinned" to end up on that tree (and the greater their connection to Molly's sphere of influence) the better the claim gets.

Someone strong arming or gaslighting people would barely register at all, and register more strongly the more effort they made and the more convinced they are it was for their victims own good.

Max sympathy would be to use mind magic to save someone from themselves, rightly or wrongly, and then die as a result of it in Molly's physical presence.

Which can sort of feed into the enlightenment route out; you need to grow in understanding of other and yourself at each step to really complete it. To love and let go anyway.

Fun for wizards too, since Molly would basically be running the hell of the third law from their perspective.
I'm fairly sure it wouldn't actually depend on us. Not unless we start dipping into heretical charms, and probably E6+ charms that deal with rewriting cosmos, and doing things like Salinan Working. We'll get whoerver local cosmology (I am looking at you, Azrael) sends us at first with no control on our side, I feel. It'll probably be a matter of cosmological supernatural politics afterwards. Depending on how we play it with White Council and others, we might secure them as "regular customers".
Feels like a waste to me. If we can get it without being cursed that's prime crafting material right there. Just imagine god crafting with the authority of wind's corpse; it's so deliciously heretical we might ascend to essence six on the spot.
Armor carved from the bones of a Dragon or an anchor for raising a new god would probably be very potent. But I am not sure if the same Dragon reanimated with exalted essence would be any less potent.


Anyway, I haven't commented on the last story update itself. It's interesting that the murders are scary enough that the whole community is very, very spooked, yet authorities are not really reacting. I mean, there's investigation going on, but it hasn't made the news yet. I am guessing they are keeping the lid on the whole thing, since Red Room murders happened only recently, and while Chicago is pretty violent, from what I gather, several such incidents in short order would probably spell a career end for the police chief at least, if not the mayor. Maybe we could make a play from this? Get an appointment with higher police authorities and show them enough magic that SI stops being the dumping ground and becomes an active anti-supernatural force. Chicago really needs one - Dresden is very clearly not enough.
 
Anyway, I haven't commented on the last story update itself. It's interesting that the murders are scary enough that the whole community is very, very spooked, yet authorities are not really reacting. I mean, there's investigation going on, but it hasn't made the news yet. I am guessing they are keeping the lid on the whole thing, since Red Room murders happened only recently, and while Chicago is pretty violent, from what I gather, several such incidents in short order would probably spell a career end for the police chief at least, if not the mayor. Maybe we could make a play from this? Get an appointment with higher police authorities and show them enough magic that SI stops being the dumping ground and becomes an active anti-supernatural force. Chicago really needs one - Dresden is very clearly not enough.

The authority got passed yo SI and they are the ones whose job is as much to explain weird stuff and make the paperwork look nice as it was to solve the murders
 
The authority got passed yo SI and they are the ones whose job is as much to explain weird stuff and make the paperwork look nice as it was to solve the murders
Do we have actual options of helping them? I mean, they can obviously use better equipment and training. I checked, and USA police in many places, including Chicago, I think, can accept donations. We could probably talk to Murphy and set up a monthly donation of a hundred thousand or so. Maybe provide them with equipment directly.
 
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