Going Full Hollow (Bleach)

Well, that could have gone worse. It certainly could have gone better, but it still could have gone worse.

[x] Urahara -he knows all about souls.

Was torn between this and the arrancar option. But I don't think we know in-character that Nel can heal and going to any other arrancar runs the risk of them wanting to eat her.
 
I fucken knew it.

I even explained it right there! To be good at stealth and survive long enough to become an Arrancar, this guy had to be good at stealth! Which includes knowing how to fool sensing people!

Fuck.

INSTINCT, PEOPLE! Not CALM!
 
Well, that could have gone worse. It certainly could have gone better, but it still could have gone worse.

I'm pretty sure she was dead if I hadn't convinced TPK that Ichigo was pretty damn good at finding spirit ribbons when absolutely needed. Also, now we have a REALLY good need to learn our portal ability, so hurray?
 
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[X] Urahara -he knows all about souls.

I am still mad. Thank you Redon for reducing effects of the stupidity.

So now we see what happens when we try to act passive. That means we either
A) Get even more passive
B) DO MORE INSTINCT, LESS DEEP THINKING

If you choose A, you choose wrong.

We had same scenario with our zanpaktou. The two layers answer was obvious but people didn't vote for it because they looked for deeper meaning like believing in our friends
 
Uryuu's dad is a highly skilled surgeon, a powerful Quincy, is in contact with Isshin (sometimes) and is pretty powerful for this point in canon.
He has a good chance of helping Tatsuki as she's currently in her squishy human body and isn't in soul form (which is what Urahara deals in, give him a normal human body to fix and i wouldn't be surprised if he just goes to Uryuu's dad anyway)
Getting him involved at this point is pretty useful and learning about more quincy's could let us do some interesting stuff later on as well depending on if Whitey has Ichigo's same mishmash of Non-Euclidean genetics.
 
wait a second why should we take her to urahara? she is still in her living body right? shouldn't we take her to uryuu's dad or ichigo's dad?
 
A few observations:

Tatsuki's in the room, so you can't Gatsuga everything, and whathisface might try using her as a shield if you go that route.

Also, if someone comes to investigate and you bean them by accident, things could get... awkward.

Thirdly, he might be bluffing in hopes you'll take the first swing, whereupon he can claim self defense. Not hugely likely given where this is happening, but just tossing it out there.

Guy goes invisible. Players vote to use a skill they're bad at to try to find him, not considering that it probably wouldn't work even if they were good at it, because of perceived shiny.
Wait, what perceived shiny? I'm pretty sure the logic is 'can't see guy, have to find him another way. Can we feel him move? Probably not. Can we hear him? Probably not. Can we sense him? Possibly. Can we attack blindly and hit him? Indeterminate chance.

Plus see quote above for further reasons against getsugas. Since he did go for her first, then the idea that he uses her as a shield to avoid our tetsugas isn't too unlikely.
I'm beginning to think TPK's quests have some curse on them that makes the voters do dumb things for no reason except for the lolz or shiny and sometimes (like this case) for absolutely no reason.
no reason? Really? I didn't vote for this but I can certainly see the reason for it.
I fucken knew it.

I even explained it right there! To be good at stealth and survive long enough to become an Arrancar, this guy had to be good at stealth! Which includes knowing how to fool sensing people!

Fuck.

INSTINCT, PEOPLE! Not CALM!
I don't remember you writing in an instinctive desire to protect our friend. Instinct to you means attack blindly at literally nothing and hope he's there? It might have worked, but I can easily come up with a dozen reasons why it might not have either.
[X] Urahara -he knows all about souls.

I am still mad. Thank you Redon for reducing effects of the stupidity.

So now we see what happens when we try to act passive. That means we either
A) Get even more passive
B) DO MORE INSTINCT, LESS DEEP THINKING

If you choose A, you choose wrong.

We had same scenario with our zanpaktou. The two layers answer was obvious but people didn't vote for it because they looked for deeper meaning like believing in our friends

All this angry bitching (from when the hiatus stopped too) is what's making me mad. We have limited options, limited information, any option we pick could either be correct or wrong for seemingly arbitrary reasons, and you're mad at us for actually trying to think about things?

You claim that your instincts, or your idea of what ichigo's instincts are, are more valid than everybody else's and we're all idiots who think too much and make you mad?

Can't see - use other senses.

That's a perfectly valid instinct. No sight, then use either sound, feel, or the 6th magical sense.

Or attack the air. That's your instinct. That doesn't mean it's the only possible instinct, or that the other options are necessarily passive. The idea behind this vote was targeted preemptive attack. 'He's there, he doesn't know I know. I can attack him at once with my full strength and suprise him!'

Unless preemptive also means passive to you?


On the other hand, the fact that we've never used our spiritual sense and don't know whether it's reliable is a perfectly valid argument. Go ahead and be mad about that. But remember that similar arguments can be made about every option presented to us.

You want real instincts? Write-in a flawless option. Dazzle us all with your perfect solution and lack of heavy thinking. I'll be waiting.

What you shouldn't do is act like you personally know best and every other person in the thread is retarded for not being you.
 
[] Urahara -he knows all about souls.
Probably the safest bet, considering that Gibbs essentially painted a flaming arrow at it with the bit about her soul ribbon and needing to see someone about her soul. It's not like he doesn't know a thing or two about bodies, either, considering he made a gigai that allowed a shinigami to breed with a human. Not sure how we're getting back to Earth, though. Redon raised a good point about need based learning.
[] Uryuu's dad -he's a trauma surgeon.
Probably instant death, considering we're a goddamn hollow. Also the same issue with transportation.
[] An arrancar -there has to be a healer.
Nel and her vomit would come in handy. Does not run into the 'how to get to Earth' problem. Does run into the 'what if we run into Sriracha Alfalfa Gantz' issue. Also parading injured prey around predators.
[] An empty room -she's healing.
Assuming she's actually healing, and this isn't merely wishful thinking, this is an okay option. Ignores the issue of wtf is going on with her soul. Which is probably bad.
What could possibly go wrong?
 
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[X] An arrancar -there has to be a healer.

Rather interested to see where this one could go.
 
[X] Urahara -he knows all about souls.

No going up to a quincy as a Hollow, please. I don't see this ending in anything except another fight when we can't afford the time to convince him we're cool.
 

I'm sorry, but when you are playing a creature of action, the best choice is not the one that has you searching around blindly (and cutting off your focus from things going on around you to boot) with an ability you've already shown to be piss poor at while in a mode that blocks out weaker spiritual presences around you. You either react to what the enemy is doing (the looking for wind currents to see where he's moving/listening for movements), or you actively attack it (energy blasts everywhere).

The let him stab you one/look harder were obvious traps so no need to talk about them.
 
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I'm sorry, but when you are playing a creature of action, the best choice is not the one that has you searching around blindly (and cutting off your focus from things going on to boot) with an ability you've already shown to be piss poor at. You either react to what the enemy is doing (the looking for wind currents to see where he's moving), or you actively attack it (energy blasts everywhere).
As has been pointed out, neither of those actions would necessarily have been better. He might be moving slowly, and wind currents wouldn't have been felt. By the fact that he didn't attack us, this might not have been helpful even had he been quick.

It's just replacing the sense of sight for the sense of touch, and might not have worked at all.

For the getsugas, if he's moving quickly, our chance of actually hitting him goes way down. If he reached tatsuo, he could easily have taken shelter behind her until we ran out of stamina. Other ideas like kicking up dust have merit, but are entirely experimental and uncertain. We'd be giving up sight for random chance, which isn't even a sense.

Would it have worked? Maybe. Would it be certain to work? Not at all. Given uncertain information about his abilities, and about the options themselves, people voted the way they thought best.

Just because you thought one option was better than another doesn't give you the right to insult everybody else for thinking differently.

Actually, you do have that right, but I have an equal right to bitch at you for being a jerk, so that's what I'm doing. :p

Edit: not you personally, just explaining why I made the post above. If somebody wants to complain and gripe about other posters, I'm going to complain and gripe about them.
 
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@redzonejoe Given that this setting almost exclusively focuses on high end combat and fast moves, slow stealth is kinda a lost art form. So yeah, I'm going to say that expecting someone to move slowly when all evidence points to it not happening is something I will argue against.
 
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