Going Full Hollow (Bleach)
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Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
What the fuck is he even talking about? How is one battlefield to fight him on more brave than another?
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
I just do not get this guy's priorities. In his introduction he talks about eating us, and then Orihime, and he may have been literally, using a sex metaphor, or both. Then he talks about being more Hollow than us, and while there is some community there, he's still big on the whole eating others thing even if there is some Ichigo in there.
And now he's pissed at us over not trying to contest his control and helping our friends. I don't mind being called out for that, but this guy's personality bugs the shit out of me.
And now he's pissed at us over not trying to contest his control and helping our friends. I don't mind being called out for that, but this guy's personality bugs the shit out of me.
[X] Solely focus on regaining control!
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.
Dreamland
The World Of Scary Monsters
- Location
- Somewhere Over The Rainbow
Changed my vote, I took "contest your body" as in trying to fight him while fighting your injuries you gained from fighting him, even though Whitey is in his inner world so I guess you can basically heal rapidly, or injuries can be scoffed off.
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
He didn't shrug them off the last time we ate him, and we certainly didn't pull off these tricks when we were in control of the body, so I really don't know what's going on with this.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
I just think that trying to murder his respawning face was just as valid a way to stop him from hurting our friends as trying to wrest control away directly, even if it wouldn't have gotten us bankai if it had worked. But apparently we're going with the stupidest and most out-of-character possible interpretation of the vote that won. Par for the course with TPK, really.
- Location
- Florida
Why are people voting for solely regaining control, two layers people.
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
He was testing us last time, and he's testing us this time. Different tests, different win requirements. Last time, all we had to do was kill him and eat him. This time, we have to break his control over us, then spit him out and kill him.
What we did was the equivalent to treating a history exam like a language exam. We picked out the flaws in the sentence structure, pointed them out, and made the teacher feel stupid. But we also didn't answer the damn questions, so he failed our asses.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
[x] Contest your body while you attack!
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
Yeah, that was what I was thinking too. Either it works and we get bankai, or it doesn't work, he's dead, and we get our body back by virtue of him not being able to contest it.
Ouch.
Last time wasn't a test. Certainly wasn't framed that way. It was a meet and greet, and then he said he was going to eat us.
This feels a bit more like him just pulling shit out his ass, because I can't remember anyone pulling off something like this.
If this supposed to be a metaphor, then I'd call the teacher out for writing a bad, unclear question, frankly I took his double layers to be him not just trying to kill us, but get our friends killed too.
Plus it's like he's asking us to complete his secret test of character, but we have little to no solid information with which to make a guess.
AZATHOTHoth
༼ つ ☀️_☀️ ༽つ
So important question did we kill Tastuki? Since she is the one weak enough to die from our attacks right now.
I hope so. Teach the questers not to take the level one player into the death zone area.
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[X] Solely focus on regaining control.
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
Bankai was never happening. He told us how to get it, and beating him in our inner world isn't it. That's why the first part of his test was getting out of the inner world.
It most certainly was a test. If we beat him, we get his power. If we fail, he takes over.
I'd agree if he hadn't already told us that attacking him in the inner world was pointless, since he'd just reform.
And the teacher wouldn't care. He spelled out the terms pretty damn clearly. The time limit is until he kills one of our friends. The goal is to wake up before he does so. And he's going to try to kill us before we can wake up. We chose not to even try to wake up because it would put us at risk.
Well of course he's pissed. He was having fun playing the villain, and then we ruined it by acting like sociopaths and not even trying to save our friends. Seriously, it's like we're him. Oh, wait.
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
I don't agree with that interpretation; he opened with a murder statement, no real talk about testing us like he did this time around, and all around he sounded way more interested in actually getting control than teaching anything.
He did not; he said kill him in the Inner World and he'll just come back after we leave. Key part, the last one.
You must have had some terrible teachers, if they can't acknowledge when they have screwed up. Every teacher I've had, even the bad ones, can look at a problem at admit when something may be interpreted badly. I can't even tell you how many times I've had or see others had to ask questions to clarify basic assumptions in a problem that just aren't mentioned.
I disagree; I did not find them clear as I read it. I found them kind of rambling and shit-talking actually, plus declaration of killing us and taking over the body, but I didn't pay it any mind because that seems to be the guy's character.
Okay, no. We didn't do it to avoid risk, or at least I certainly didn't. I did because I thought beating him was a perfectly valid solution, and indeed if he had actually died when killed like he did last time, he would have been momentarily dead, body would be entirely ours, and then the problem is solved one way or another.
And if you want a quote on that, I got one where I was talking about killing him in our world, then just forcing the manifestation after we'd gotten back out.
Instead putting half effort towards killing him and getting control back, just put our full effort towards killing him to get control back.
If that's what he's doing, fuck him, that's a pretty bullshit approach.[/QUOTE]
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Are Shounen Rules in force? If so, we have to try the obviously wrong option of just trying to regain control before we're allowed to do the blatantly and obviously correct option of doing both at once after the "two layers" lines finally sink in.
If not, TPK time, I guess.
If not, TPK time, I guess.
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
That's because IC we were supposed to know it was a test off the bat.
Pass the test, get power. Fail, lose your body.
That key part isn't there.
Not all of my teachers were that bad, but I did indeed have teachers like I mentioned. And the key point, the one that I was trying to bring up, was this: the teacher decides if you pass their test or fail. Not the student. If you decide not to follow the rules of the test, they can choose to fail you for it.
You and a bunch of other people. Which is frustrating because he flat-out told us that to get more power, we had to take the test, then detailed the terms. And then the terms were analyzed and spelled out by other voters for people who weren't able to pick them out of what he was saying.
You saw what you thought was a safer path and took it, knowingly sacrificing a shot a bankai for it. How is that not avoiding risk?
Mind you, avoiding risk is perfectly acceptable behavior in real life. However, in the world of Bleach, avoiding risk in this kind of situation is what causes your zanpakuto to take over your mind.
And I've got a quote of me pointing out that going after him was by his own admission essentially ceding total control of our body to him for the sake of defending ourselves. And another pointing out that doing this was essentially ignoring the test.
Indeed. I suspect he may be an asshole.
[X] Contest your body while you attack!
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
Don't we have to wake up to stop him either way?
I'm... pretty sure regaining control IS waking up...
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Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
No, I mean we have to wake up to save Tatsuki, but we also have to wake up to get our Bankai.
- Location
- ✳
He's insticts of Ichigo's instincts, i.e. he's an insane arsehole that makes no sense. I'm starting to think that the optimal way to deal with him is to find a way to consume him permanently. Who knows when he suddenly decides to fuck us over again.