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Get Jinxed: A Tale of Mental Instability and Poor Decisions (Arcane/League of Legends)
ColdGoldLazarus
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I also just wanted to say, I really really liked the scene with Jinx and Caitlyn talking about Vi. Even knowing Vi's still out there, it still hit the feels just right.
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Definitely, and getting to comfort someone else about Vi helped Jinx come to terms with her own loss a little more.
[x] [Seraphine] Ask Mrs. Kiramman to keep this secret.
[x] [Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
[x] [Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
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Going back to the Lie (Badly) and Ask question
I do think there's two main things.
One - the perception of whether or not the cat is out of the bag.
Like yes snitches get stitches - but if the cat's already out of the bag trying to stuff it back in before more people see sometimes needs the help of the person who saw the damn cat.
Two - it's an unjust law. it's a criminalization of existence. And a starkly obvious one when put into context of a nine year old.
So here's how I see Jinx asking going.
Immediate response of "Lie, Lie, lie- she already knows. Plan B - swing for empathy and hope that getting a little kid killed because of a 'threat' of magic doesn't pass the sniff test".
There's a reason that the vote is between lie and ask and it's not because anyone is voting to be a snitch. It's a case of those who are going for ask are thinking Cassandra saw too much and knows too much of Hextech for an 11 year old to trick her off the cuff. (The woman is a politician and brilliant as Jinx is the woman has to have a bullshit meter finely tuned)
In which case the "Lie" only works if Cassandra is already looking the other way. Because the alternative is setting up a nine year old to die because she was born a mage.
I do think there's two main things.
One - the perception of whether or not the cat is out of the bag.
Like yes snitches get stitches - but if the cat's already out of the bag trying to stuff it back in before more people see sometimes needs the help of the person who saw the damn cat.
Two - it's an unjust law. it's a criminalization of existence. And a starkly obvious one when put into context of a nine year old.
So here's how I see Jinx asking going.
Immediate response of "Lie, Lie, lie- she already knows. Plan B - swing for empathy and hope that getting a little kid killed because of a 'threat' of magic doesn't pass the sniff test".
There's a reason that the vote is between lie and ask and it's not because anyone is voting to be a snitch. It's a case of those who are going for ask are thinking Cassandra saw too much and knows too much of Hextech for an 11 year old to trick her off the cuff. (The woman is a politician and brilliant as Jinx is the woman has to have a bullshit meter finely tuned)
In which case the "Lie" only works if Cassandra is already looking the other way. Because the alternative is setting up a nine year old to die because she was born a mage.
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My feeling is we've used up the Council of Piltover's capacity to consider reasonable changes to the ethos for the year. People don't like a lot of change all at once. We aren't going to get a repeat any time soon.
That's because Mages blew up the world. Anyone who reads about or lived during the rune wars will understandably not wish for that to happen again. Like how Darmecia imprisons their mages.
I don't think they'd kill or imprison a kid. Look at when they found out about Hextech. They're most likely going to exile her at worse.
Edit: reminder this isn't the council but someone who took Jinx in.
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Yeah - last time this came up exile was the best case scenario. Execution I think is handily on the table
Totally true.
Especially the first line — it is unjust, and it is the law.
I think there are many characters we could tell about breaking that law and they'd be fine with it. Maybe even Caitlyn is among them.
I don't think a Councillor of Piltover is one such character.
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This I think gets to the question of whether one thinks Jinx as an 11 year old can successfully hoodwink an adult with experience dealing with other Councilors (aka deals with
Because if you don't think Jinx can then lie is depending on Cassandra looking the other way anyways.
Yes!
And I think there's a very meaningful difference between the councillor taking a plausible excuse at face value from a ward she trusts, and actively ignoring a known crime!
The former is a believable explanation. If she was in court, she could give it, and it would be hard to contest. Her peers might doubt her, but they definitely can't know for sure.
The latter is aiding and abetting.
You're right that either way we're hoping she looks the other way. I think any form of confessing leaves her no choice in that.
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This is at least a more understandable position to me then "Asking is snitching" and believing that Jinx lying would be convincing.
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[X][Seraphine] Deny Everything: What Magic? That Was Just My New Hextech Thing!
[X][Seraphine] Ask Mrs. Kiramman to keep this secret.
[X][Undercity] Sneak Out Alone
Feels like sneaking out on our own just makes more sense, and I feel it gives us something that is Jinx's, one we don't need to provide context to another (Caitlyn) or protect (Seraphine). There will be plenty of things that we do with others, but going on our own to Zaun can be something that is for herself.
[X][Seraphine] Ask Mrs. Kiramman to keep this secret.
[X][Undercity] Sneak Out Alone
Feels like sneaking out on our own just makes more sense, and I feel it gives us something that is Jinx's, one we don't need to provide context to another (Caitlyn) or protect (Seraphine). There will be plenty of things that we do with others, but going on our own to Zaun can be something that is for herself.
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context matters,mages are WMDS that can go haywire at any given moment
to translate in term a SVier can get, imagine gun regulation
"but i dont want to hurt anyone with my weapons" is not a strong point,the regulations are about making a safe enviroment to avoid that one person that will actually harm innocents with their weapons,the intent of the ''good ones'' doesnt play into it
same here,a majority of good mages doesnt erase the fact it takes one bad day to get someone going down the path that viktor did and nuking the entire country
is cruel for sure,but is not baseless
wanna make co-existance with mages doable?,develop ways to track down magical spikes and ways to non-lethally neutralize mages that go haywire as well supress their magic
Isn't that what Jinx was thinking not what's actual? The Councilors when Jinx's case and her relationship with Hextech came out they were saying how they didn't want to send a kid to prison.
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They were assuming she was a lab assistant who wasn't making decisions.
A case of "Is it reasonable to hold a child with less ability to control things responsible for an adult's actions?"
This is not the same thing as a mage whose crime is existence. Which reading between the lines the sentence is death.
[X][Seraphine] Deny Everything: What Magic? That Was Just My New Hextech Thing!
[X][Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
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[X][Seraphine] Ask Mrs. Kiramman to keep this secret.
[X] [Undercity] Invite Caitlyn
[X] [Undercity] Invite Caitlyn
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I was pretty happy with how it turned out.
That's the bottom line. Exiling magic users is pretty brutal, but the Rune Wars involved entire civilizations being destroyed and a whole continent being lost. The repression is still bad and needs to stop, but it's not like mages are being repressed just for evil funsies (even if some areas like Demacia are a bit on the borderline of that).