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I'm rewatching the scene where he gets booted from the council. He made the attempt to fix things before Jayce betrayed him over Hextech. He's apathetic until something throws it in his face.
He absolutely didn't. He made a speech about togetherness and overcoming division. But a speech about togetherness and overcoming to division to a people you are actively oppressing is pretty worthless. And he wasn't even making the speech to them, it was to his fellow councilors. There wasn't a plan here.
Do they really care or did they start caring after the enforcers came down? If they cared all the time Silco wouldn't have felt the need to spread Shimmer to force everyone onto the same page.
As for the kids I don't take them seriously. They're regurgitating what they've heard from Vanders people and due to their parents dying. We see in part 2 and season 2 Vi is the one to push for the council to deal with Silco, pushes Jayce to go down there, becomes an enforcer. She doesn't seem to feel so strongly as an adult even after being in Stillwater.
I don't think he did spread Shimmer to force everyone onto the same page. We don't even know that he was even pushing Shimmer, just that he "flooded the lanes." But plenty of people take drugs and become addicts without it being pushed on them. I think the point of Shimmer was that first it's a combat drug. Second selling it made money that he could use to try to prepare for a war against topside.
If you're just going to ignore every single person we see at all except post-Stillwater Vi, and then generalize from an assumption that since we don't really know they must all be ambivalent, that's a choice I guess. I agree Vi (particularly Ep 4-9 + S2) isn't really someone who's ideologically motivated.
jayce and hediemer are not polaticans which is kinda obivious from their first meeting one is to guilable and the other sees things only in the long term and ignores the current like he legit says oh I went down there 300 years ago and everything was fine like it was last tuesday
Again, if someone finds themselves in a job that they are unable to do, and that job is a serious one that it is important is done right, they have a duty to figure that out and quit. Which to his credit, Jayce even does, since he doesn't seem to be on the Council in S2. Although unfortunately he might actually have been the best of them. In Heimerdinger's case though, this absolutely applies.
But the idea that there isn't anyone on Piltover's side who could ever take sympathetic action on Zaun's behalf no matter what and the only solution that could ever exist is force of arms just isn't true
I think the idea that there's a strict division between totally peaceful methods and only violent ones is a false one. Politics is war by other means, war is politics by other means. All wars end either in annihilation or at the negotiating table. I'd agree that the only way this situation is resolved is at a negotiating table with people like Mel and maybe Jayce and maybe Caitlyn or her mom, and that at that negotiating table a mixture of sympathy for Zaun and strength from Zaun will be necessary. It's a question of the mixture.