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They are in fact an Order faction.
It just so happens that "Order" doesn't necessarily mean "Good"
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It just so happens that "Order" doesn't necessarily mean "Good"
Per 8th edition:
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Hmm. Oh, right. I just mentally tabbed them Destruction since they bent the knee to Nagash so easily.
Ohh, I thought you meant early in End Times. Okay, well, obviously situations are a bit different. ;X It's Nagash+Arkhan+his other patsies and wandering over with Vampire Counts, not just trying to suppress the Tomb Kings on their own.
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Canonical End Times is thus not to be used as a die-hard reference, if at all.
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Die-hard reference, but even in those quotes Xantalos says he's only not there 'Yet'. He'll get there if we just sit around and do nothing.
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I'm not denying Nagash is a major threat and very much want to see him hindered, I'm just getting the idea that from your multiple references to the End Times you're taking what happened there a bit too seriously as evidence.
Settra drove Nagash off after he was basically metaphysically crippled due to the Warpstone sword fucking him up that badly.
The ritual Arkhan pulled was to restore Nagash to his former glory.
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Most of Pestilens' plagues are for the most part one-offs, yeah. It's a downside of them not killing half the skaven like the Black Plague did.
Well, you could make the same type of plague again, it just won't be exactly the same - if you noticed in the update, the plagues Pestilens most often uses are more the result of specialized rituals than they are actual diseases, so if you performed said ritual again you'd get mostly similar results - there may be different symptoms, but mostly the same general effect.
The really wounded dragon ogre might die unless it gets healed, but the healthy one should be fine, if still thunderously indignant at being captured by you.
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Hmm. I wonder what we can do with Dragon Ogre Captives. Maybe we can figure out how they summon and rejuvenate from Lightning? That'd be effective.
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There's also the Nipponese beasts which require merely an appropriate Hero unit to be free. I wonder if we can combine the stuff with two Authority to figuring out the Dragon Ogre stuff while Drazhoath and Thanquol figure out the Lore of Hashut stuff for the Stikch, who also has one Authority on figuring out the last of the Taurus line.
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So, you know what I think? F the Black Pyramid.
It's not necessary. We wanna stop Nagash from returning right? Let's aim for the weakes parts of his plans. He needs the books. That was a thing, right, he needs his books and I think a ring to return right? So, we spend some authority trackign down and aquiring as many of Nagash's books and that ring, and maybe killing Mannfred as well just in case.
The Black Pyramid is one of the hardest parts of his plan to return to life to get rid of, let's aim for some of the weaker parts instead. Plus side, should increase our necromancy skills as well, and probably in different ways.
It's not necessary. We wanna stop Nagash from returning right? Let's aim for the weakes parts of his plans. He needs the books. That was a thing, right, he needs his books and I think a ring to return right? So, we spend some authority trackign down and aquiring as many of Nagash's books and that ring, and maybe killing Mannfred as well just in case.
The Black Pyramid is one of the hardest parts of his plan to return to life to get rid of, let's aim for some of the weaker parts instead. Plus side, should increase our necromancy skills as well, and probably in different ways.
You know, you're right, if we can figure out how to integrate that into our beasts we can make them basically invinicible, due to all of our lightning weapons. Throw some massive fuck off monsters into battle and have some lightinining weapons constantly striking them, makign them more pwoerful and healing them from attacks, they'd be pretty unstoppable.
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Well, he's already returned actually.
I was actually thinking along the lines of them summoning lightning to supercharge Warp-Lightning Cannons we'll mount on them cybernetically, but that also works. That'll be amazing.
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He's returned already, which means he already got what he needed. Beyond that, all the Books required separate quests from his guys so it would have been equivalent authority expended to get heroes into position if there were any still kicking around he didn't have.
The Pyramid should have a bunch of other lootable stuff beyond what Rictus already managed to glean from it.
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Ayup, that sounds just about right for Ork Central.
Here's hoping they decide the mustering Tomb Kings look like a nice fight.
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Say it with me now: "Looted Black Pyramid"
...wait, no, that's horrifying.
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What was that Great Shaman's name, the one with the wyvern who used Lore of Death from harnessing Nagash's Crown? The one I only learned about from Total War: Warhammer?
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Azhag the Slaughterer. He's been dead for about six years now though.
Also, he wasn't a Shaman, he was a Warboss. His magic came from the crown.
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I'd imagine it depends on what kind of swordskaven they'd be. Musketeer ripoffs would obviously be Mousketeers, but truthfully it depends on what they do.
Pretty much any name is probably fine though.
Oh, speaking of names, are you lot fine with the names I gave the Dark Lands settlements? I can change them if you've a different preference.
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If it wouldn't be much work (and if anyone has any ideas), the obvious holdovers from the Dwarves should probably be skaven-ified. Uzkulak, Tower of Gorgoth, Black Fortress, and Daemon's Stump probably. Maybe Mount Grimfang.
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Heck, that'd probably give me a good scene for the turn intro, Thanquol just arbitrarily renaming things on a whim.
"The Black Fortress is now call-called SnuffleSnort!"
"But-but Underlord-"
"SNUFFLESNORT"
I heartily endorse this name and now demand that when we rule the world, it will be named Snortsnuffle.
I am willing to compromise and name it Thanquolia.
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Hey, didn't we have Total Infiltration here before?
I'm thinking Myrmidia's been hard at work.