While this is true, I was somewhat surprised that GG didn't call her on it. I mean, the subject at hand was exactly what the result of his ignoring her was.
Firebird, a Worm AU/Xover?
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An unfortunate result of the US 's puritanical origins. To this day US society at large has not gotten over it. As an American, yes, I know it's stupid, but there's not much I can do about it.
Jim Starluck
CO, ICS Vanguard
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- Cincinnati, OH
Don't blame SB/SV, blame American society. It's fine with brutal violence but has some incredibly hypocritical Puritan views on sex.
Victoria's not very street smart
chibipoe
May I tell you of the glory that is Catradora?
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I should have included this disclaimer in that statement.
I'm well aware of the source of the United States and its view of sex. My statement, however, was not invitation to derail into a discussion about that. So, please, let's not do that.
I'm well aware of the source of the United States and its view of sex. My statement, however, was not invitation to derail into a discussion about that. So, please, let's not do that.
I should have included this disclaimer in that statement.
I'm well aware of the source of the United States and its view of sex. My statement, however, was not invitation to derail into a discussion about that. So, please, let's not do that.
Oh fine. And I had such interesting things to say too!
Can we talk about murder instead? I mean, Taylor's powers can do the obvious stuff, but there are so many interesting ways to kill with either pyrokinesis or telekinesis.
chibipoe
May I tell you of the glory that is Catradora?
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Oh fine. And I had such interesting things to say too!
Can we talk about murder instead? I mean, Taylor's powers can do the obvious stuff, but there are so many interesting ways to kill with either pyrokinesis or telekinesis.
I suppose, if you really must, then yes. Though to be fair, a lot of those will require a degree of control that Taylor may not have yet. Without even going into murder, there's so many ways to disable someone with telekinesis alone beyond the simple 'grab someone and hold them in place' tactic.
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- Somewhere North. It's cold here.
Wow. That was a heck of a long chapter, and it was all awesome. I'm liking seeing things start to pick up. Also, any type of fire powers are awesome. Combined with TK, precog, and mind reading... The Phoenix is kinda broken, isn't it?
Sasha
Not the Leader
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- The Ever After
Understatement of the continuity.
Thanks for the answer. I do agree that the it is likely a media circus when a known cape's identity is made public, with everybody speculating, having an opinion and following it in the news.
However, my questions and thoughts lean more to how the public and parahuman community would feel about knowing that identities are deliberately being investigated. Or perhaps I should say that I wonder how they would feel if they know that possible parahuman's are being investigated. I ask because the viewpoints shown so far, Armsmaster/Colin, Browbeat/Madison, Gallant/Dean & Miss Millitia/Hanna in the Protectorate and Piggot in the PRT have no problem with investigating Taylor. However, they can very well be operating under a "if it doesn't come out it isn't a problem" attitude. (Although there will be a problem with real "fire" works if Taylor reads somebody and finds out that Armsmaster outed her to Piggot.)
Also, how do the public and parahuman community would see the outing of identities to individuals or organizations. You've basically shown two viewpoints so far. Armsmaster, Browbeat and Gallant did not seem to have a problem outing Taylor to their superiors and Armsmaster was not shown to have a problem outing her to her father. (He was shown to regret not investigating their relationship yes, but I did not read him as regretting outing her secret to her father.) Victoria on the other hand seems to believe that it isn't her secret to tell and Catherine and Minako also appear to believe this.
Lastly, thanks for having Victoria bring up how Danny left Taylor alone with Armsmaster. I missed that when I read the previous chapter.
Not at all! You just need to have it in with characters of similar power level. Like the Silver Surfer, Galactus, Oblivion, Eon, Eternity, Death, the Sorcerer Supreme*, and others on the more cosmic level.
*Don't tell me Doctor Strange couldn't hang either, fuckin' guy once stalemated the Infinity Gauntlet for a few seconds. He stalemated omnipotence. He can hang.
VolantRedX
Official Conscience of Worm Fanfiction!
Guys you do realize that the reason the site blocks any 18 and under sex is that in large parts of the world that can get this site shut down for kiddie porn? Not just in America.
Jim Starluck
CO, ICS Vanguard
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- Cincinnati, OH
Yes. That's why I'm saying not to blame the site itself. It's just responding to outside pressures.
As Chibi said, though, let us not derail the thread any further.
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Chojomeka
Behold! QUEEN MONKE!
Aww this was the perfect moment to make an Avenue Q joke like say Armsmaster went off to visit his girlfriend in Canada~(warning lyrics may not be SFW)
QuietlyObserving
The Railgun That Walks Like a Bear
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- Here.
Nah. More like Dash. Flies fast, fights physical, doesn't always (read: usually) think things through, is especially hair-trigger when it's someone close to her, very protective of a shrinking-violet-personality healer with a nasty side, and...is a surprisingly good friend, in spite of it all.
chibipoe
May I tell you of the glory that is Catradora?
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Alright, let's go with Author answers things corner once more!
Have to agree with Sasha. This isn't even coming close to touching what the Phoenix is capable of.
I think it's an area that has a lot of room for how it's perceived. I can't imagine that the PRT doesn't have a database of who they suspect various villains to be and given they are essentially police for parahumans, the general public likely doesn't think anything of it. Oh, sure, there's probably civil rights groups who raise a stink about it as they are wont to do, but largely, I don't think the public thinks of it as anything more than performing their duties.
Now the parahuman community, well, that's another story and I don't imagine they like it all. But it's a question of what's being done with that information. Having the information is one thing, what you do with it is the more important thing. The PRT may know things, but they don't act on it unless their hand is forced openly(see Coil outing the E88), because there's a un-codified system of rules that they function by. (Even if I personally think they'll disregard them if it's convenient/the gains outweigh the losses)
Honestly, my reading of that scene(if we're thinking of the same scene) was that the fact that he could do anything was more due to who was wielding that power. Warlock outright stated that the shit he was pulling couldn't work against Thanos and Thanos was mocking her incompetence the whole time. She clearly had less than a solid grip on the absolute power that the IG grants.
As to the Surfer. I dunno. He's very low-end for cosmic tier, so I don't know if he'd actually be able to do anything more than annoy the Phoenix. He'd crap all over the entities though.
Thanks! And yeah, it did get rolling after this chapter.
Hm... I can see that.
Have to agree with Sasha. This isn't even coming close to touching what the Phoenix is capable of.
I think it's an area that has a lot of room for how it's perceived. I can't imagine that the PRT doesn't have a database of who they suspect various villains to be and given they are essentially police for parahumans, the general public likely doesn't think anything of it. Oh, sure, there's probably civil rights groups who raise a stink about it as they are wont to do, but largely, I don't think the public thinks of it as anything more than performing their duties.
Now the parahuman community, well, that's another story and I don't imagine they like it all. But it's a question of what's being done with that information. Having the information is one thing, what you do with it is the more important thing. The PRT may know things, but they don't act on it unless their hand is forced openly(see Coil outing the E88), because there's a un-codified system of rules that they function by. (Even if I personally think they'll disregard them if it's convenient/the gains outweigh the losses)
Honestly, my reading of that scene(if we're thinking of the same scene) was that the fact that he could do anything was more due to who was wielding that power. Warlock outright stated that the shit he was pulling couldn't work against Thanos and Thanos was mocking her incompetence the whole time. She clearly had less than a solid grip on the absolute power that the IG grants.
As to the Surfer. I dunno. He's very low-end for cosmic tier, so I don't know if he'd actually be able to do anything more than annoy the Phoenix. He'd crap all over the entities though.
Thanks! And yeah, it did get rolling after this chapter.
Hm... I can see that.
That wasn't my experience at all in high school. 85-90% of the people I knew were really calm and easy-going.
chibipoe
May I tell you of the glory that is Catradora?
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Well, it isn't common and most teenagers are pretty sedate. But they can explode like no one's business when stressed.
Welp, that went a whole lot better than I thought it would. I was picturing an EPIC disaster. We only got a pissed and pissy Taylor. Hehe. Well, great job here, keep it up!
It just seems to me like everyone realizes now that high school isn't the best years of your life, but their swinging too far in the other direction.
Amberion
Mighty #9
Also, Taylor has Danny's famous temper.
earthboy
(verified ape)
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- NYC
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It's weird to me that Lisa's power would have been affected by the Phoenix anti-precog effect. In canon, Lisa's power ignores anti-precog effects.
(Being classified as a Thinker does not mean she's a precog, any more than Miss Militia's perfect memory makes her a precog.)
(Being classified as a Thinker does not mean she's a precog, any more than Miss Militia's perfect memory makes her a precog.)
Yes, but you'll note that the reason the Protectorate is freaking out is that it's not just an anti-precog effect, but an anti Thinker effect. All the Thinker powers shut down, including the non-precogs, globally.
I gotta agree with Stormseed, the stereotypical teenage!drama was overdone. Honestly, most of this chapter seemed like her reactions were chosen based on what would cause more drama rather than what would be in character for her. Pointless drama like this is one of the things that irritates me the most on stories.
And if you are going to make Taylor not spam her precog in order to keep the story interesting, make something happen in story
that explains it, like her using it to see how a conversation will go, saying something different in response to what she saw, and it make things go worse. As it is, you have her actually thinking about how she never uses it when it matters, and it just seems like she is constantly juggling the idiot ball.
Honestly, I'd really rather you not have Coil be a major antagonist at all. You are already doing an openly AU story, so you could make things a little different. Coil is the main antagonist of almost every Worm story out there, for once I'd like to see a story where he isn't a Big Bad for Taylor to fight against (and no, curbstomp fics don't count).
When Taylor and Vicky landed on top of Coil's building as a "safe" place to talk, I groaned, in no small part due to the fact that, as both can fly easily and enjoy doing so, they could have a conversation guaranteed to be private by just staying up in the air.
As is, this feels like a story I read where they figured out Coil is using his power because they did something that doesn't make sense fire them (I.e. they were manipulated by his power to do it). This is not even close to the way his power works, but with how unlikely it is for Taylor and Vicky to have just happened to have landed on Coil's so he could find out about her. And yes, I know you said there might not have been cameras, but if that is the case than you are just bring a massive troll. That is your prerogative to do so, but it is likely to lose you some readers.
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