Firebird, a Worm AU/Xover?

Worm 3.11 is the closest thing, I think.

Yeah. Suspected. And also, I don't think anyone even knew she was precognitive, really? Just that she screwed with people and caused horrible shit to happen.

I'm also sure TT isn't the only Thinker to play that 'I can read minds' card.
 
Did he own Leet? I thought he'd just taken advantage of Leet losing his buddy.
Nope.
Uber outlived Leet, IIRC.
Yeah. Coil would be patient. I honestly think having Dinah was a bad thing for him. Sure, it let him act more aggressively, but I think that was a problem in and of itself and he reached too far.
I agree.
As to using Catherine & Minako as handles on Taylor. Hm. An interesting though.
That was my first inclination.
I can see it backfiring badly(telepathy and precog) but a manipulator would think in terms of leverage.
As to small fry & sacrifices. Eh. Maybe. I can't see him exposing some low-key independents the way he did the E88. There simply wouldn't be any sort of gain. That set the E88 reeling and preventing them from having a safe haven of their home. They were a major power, after all.
Now if the indies were a severe thorn in his side, then I could see it.
As a throwaway to smear someone?
Or to maneuver someone else into conflict?

I mean, if I wanted to fuck with the E88, arranging for some of them to figure out Minako's secret ID after staging a provocation?
Would put them on a collision course with Tweety Bird.
And relatively risk free, when you don't know your patsy is a telepath.
 
Wait...when she got a spke of pain when trying to see the thoughts of Colin....

Did she instead get the shard and BSOD for a second?

Also, I'm waiting for when her telepathy really gets going, and then she 'finds' someone who's telepathic as well. And so they chat, become friends, and Taylor asks if her friend can come visit.

And then the Endbringer sirens start. Oops. Caller ID is important.
 
Wait...when she got a spke of pain when trying to see the thoughts of Colin....

Did she instead get the shard and BSOD for a second?

Also, I'm waiting for when her telepathy really gets going, and then she 'finds' someone who's telepathic as well. And so they chat, become friends, and Taylor asks if her friend can come visit.

And then the Endbringer sirens start. Oops. Caller ID is important.
An amusing thought experiment, but unfortunately impossible unless chibipoe makes more changes, since Worm has no true telepaths.
 
You know, when I started reading this chapter, I wondered if I somehow managed to miss an entire chapter somewhere.

As for what will happen to Sophia... Best bet, she gets expelled. Assuming Bet is anything like real life, most US school districts have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to weapons; combine that with the attempt to frame/kill Taylor, and the administration likely won't want to touch her with a 10 foot pole.

Of course, if the PRT does press gang her into joining (which is a big if), she may show back up, or just end up at Arcadia with the teachers keeping a close eye on her...
 
An amusing thought experiment, but unfortunately impossible unless chibipoe makes more changes, since Worm has no true telepaths.

Well, to be precise, Worm doesn't have the additional features of psionics that are part & parcel of the Marvel Universe. At any rate, Simurgh has a fairly accurate facsimile of what Taylor's running as far as Telepathy goes. But in practice, all she really has is TK and Precog that she uses to devastating effect. She isn't actually reading anyone's mind, merely simulating it via precognition of a ridiculous level since she can see how changes to brain chemistry produce x result.
 
Of course, if the PRT does press gang her into joining (which is a big if), she may show back up, or just end up at Arcadia with the teachers keeping a close eye on her...
Or they could just ship her off to El Paso or some place that isn't anywhere near New England. That would require a talent for conflict resolution though, so-

"We do not share all of our classes with her," Minako pointed out. "We do not even share all of our classes with each other. Unfeasible."

"Hell if I know what to do then," Catherine said, crossing her arms. "What do you suggest?"

"What does anyone do with a complicated situation that involves one of their friends?" Minako asked. "They go to their friend and ask what they can do to help."

Catherine stared at her. "Talk to Taylor, you're saying."

"That is what I said, yes," Minako murmured. "She has proven adept in the time we have known her of dealing with her tormentor. She may be prepared already."

"The next class I share with her is before lunch, if I recall right," Catherine said. "I'll talk to her then."
It's actually surprisingly plausible.
 
Well, to be precise, Worm doesn't have the additional features of psionics that are part & parcel of the Marvel Universe. At any rate, Simurgh has a fairly accurate facsimile of what Taylor's running as far as Telepathy goes. But in practice, all she really has is TK and Precog that she uses to devastating effect. She isn't actually reading anyone's mind, merely simulating it via precognition of a ridiculous level since she can see how changes to brain chemistry produce x result.
Mmm, yeah. Like I said, no 'true' telepaths à la Jean Grey, Emma Frost or Xavier. But as you just said, there are those in-universe who can create convincing illusions of such.
 
They definitely knew that Ziz was a precog. That's pretty much the entire reason they quarantine entire cities that she hits, and refer to her victims as time bombs.

Beyond that, my point wasn't that she should be terrified of her power, and I'm not sure how you got that impression. My point was, if she suddenly had dynakinesis, or macro water control, I'd expect her to comment on it. Additionally, mind reading and the like are rather commonly used by those with the talent in marvel, but I'd expect Taylor to at least have some moral qualms about it. Instead, she just accepts it with the calmness that she has dealt with seemingly everything else life has thrown at her since the locker, except that one inexplicable robbing, where she practically lost her shit, only to never reflect on it again.

Sorry if this seems overly critical, but it's late and I'm typing this from my phone. I understand that there is mental bleed through, but I'm not really seeing any of Taylor in there, just a slightly less trusting, less popular Jean.
 
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Sorry if this seems overly critical, but it's late and I'm typing this from my phone. I understand that there is mental bleed through, but I'm not really seeing any of Taylor in there, just a slightly less trusting, less popular Jean.
Lemme point out that canon!Taylor is the lady whose power allowed her to run a panopticon over several blocks.
I don't find it out of character that she isn't entirely phased by rudimentary telepathy.
Certainly there is some Jean in there, but rather less than you think in this instance; Jean would be rather more concerned about the mental privacy of civilians.
 
I do hope they'll not knowingly recruit a murderous psychopath for the wards. And if tehy do, stick her far, far away from possible victims. It'd strain and possibly break my SoD if Sophia sticks around in BB as a ward, despite all the crimes she comitted.
 
Incidentally, if Taylor's drawign the giant firebird, that's a pretty decent sign, as Collin seems quite aware of.
I initially read that passage as indicating Colin had drawn in her sketchbook. Took me another two reads to realize that is not what was being said. Maybe I'm just tired.

As to Minako. Well, she's just very zen. Or so she would have everyone think.
Limited remote-viewing aka 'present-cog' Thinker power, probably with some basic multitasking (so the viewing is not a distraction), is my guess. Could be surprisingly OP in a fight, though definitely taking some time to adapt to.
 
I do hope they'll not knowingly recruit a murderous psychopath for the wards. And if tehy do, stick her far, far away from possible victims. It'd strain and possibly break my SoD if Sophia sticks around in BB as a ward, despite all the crimes she comitted.
What crimes?
This is not canon, and there were no witnesses to her taking a shot at Taylor; conceivably, her finger slipped.
And I do not believe Armsmaster's surveillance is admissible in court.

Is she going to stick around BB?
Unlikely, not with her secret ID blown to at least three people.
But she has done nothing a good lawyer couldn't get her off for.
 
It is not about what is evidence for a court but what Colin knows Sophia planned and did. He knows she is not ward material.
 
It is not about what is evidence for a court but what Colin knows Sophia planned and did. He knows she is not ward material.
Lol.
Madcap used to break people out of jail, and he's Protectorate now; he was recruited by LEGEND despite being an adult.
Canon Sophia was using lethal bolts on street criminals when she was caught and recruited.

So don't give me that, especially with a juvenile.
At worst, I'm betting she gets moved to another city, and enrolled in therapy and monitoring unless she fucks up again.
 
In all honesty, I see Piggot making the decision to make Sophia a Ward then just ship her off somewhere else. Make her another persons problem in another city. That way, she's both following aggressive recruitment, and getting rid of a problem.

Because if Taylor is a Parahuman, she's likely much less a problem then Sophia, and keeping Sophia is just toxic.
 
Lol.
Madcap used to break people out of jail, and he's Protectorate now; he was recruited by LEGEND despite being an adult.
Canon Sophia was using lethal bolts on street criminals when she was caught and recruited.

So don't give me that, especially with a juvenile.
At worst, I'm betting she gets moved to another city, and enrolled in therapy and monitoring unless she fucks up again.

There's a diference between a professional criminal breaking out prisoners on demand, and a psychopath spending her time tormenting victims and then trying to kill them when they resist. There's also a difference between a vigilante going overboard on criminals, and a criminal trying to murder a student for exposing her plot. One of the two you do not want to team up with kids. Hint: It's not Madcap.
 
In all honesty, I see Piggot making the decision to make Sophia a Ward then just ship her off somewhere else. Make her another persons problem in another city. That way, she's both following aggressive recruitment, and getting rid of a problem.

Because if Taylor is a Parahuman, she's likely much less a problem then Sophia, and keeping Sophia is just toxic.
This assumes Sophia's mother would agree to that.
 
There's a diference between a professional criminal breaking out prisoners on demand, and a psychopath spending her time tormenting victims and then trying to kill them when they resist.
1) A professional criminal breaking out prisoners bound for the BIRDCAGE.
Where they throw the likes of String Theory and Black Kaze; people with three-digit body counts and above.
Much as we like jolly old Ethan, let's not pretend that he's not indirectly complicit in the deaths of lots of people.
Unless you think Legend takes the time to apprehend just any jail-break specialist.

2)I suggest you look up the meaning of psychopath before you start throwing it about.
It has a meaning, not just a word to smear characters you don't like.
There's also a difference between a vigilante going overboard on criminals, and a criminal trying to murder a student for exposing her plot.
Neither was witnessed by independent parties, and in the latter case the entire picture is quite muddled.
Frankly, as far as actionable evidence is concerned, the vigilante has it worse; the kid can claim a slipped finger, or even having aimed past the girl in front of her to intimidate her.
All you have are allegations.

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Hell, given that Sophia was nowhere near in front of Taylor's locker when Taylor confronted her?
And that Taylor tracked her down?
It can be stated that Taylor instigated the confrontation with a vigilante looking for where to hide her equipment.
And note that given as Sophia had a twisted ankle, it's entirely plausible she could not retreat from the scene.

See how different it looks when you aren't seeing things from the PoV of a telepath?
Judges are not mind readers after all.

One of the two you do not want to team up with kids. Hint: It's not Madcap.
Funny, since the PRT explicitly disagreed with you in canon.
See Skitter, who killed Tagg, Alexandria, and more or less admitted killing Coil in front of witnesses, and was known to be a criminal warlord.
And got put on a Ward Team as part of a backroom deal.
 
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I have to agree with Uju here. the Protectorate's and PRT's desire for powerful, capable capes outweighs anything else in their books. Piggot sure as hell won't take Sophia. Not just because she's toxic but because doing do might just have Armsmaster up in arms and Piggot needs her Parahumans on terms where they at least agree with her. Having the local Protectorate Leader make things difficult for her isn't what she wants.

Chances are she'll strap a sign saying "Free Ward" and toss her out there among the other cities.

But away from the whole argument about Sophia.There was plenty else out there this chapter to talk about.

I'm actually really interested in seeing Armsmaster as he is. As noted by MM, he doesn't have his gear with him and is getting by using his gut instincts. And seeing him actually having to go with his gut rather then with what his Tech says is really helping him as a character. Plus he is loosening up as a defense mechanism of dealing with Teenagers. A less up-tight Armsmaster is better all around I think.
 
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