Firebird, a Worm AU/Xover?

I am sorry.
I shall hereby help with that.
The random banter? Doesn't need to be here. This is not a general discussion thread. And far too much of the conversation the past few days has no relevance to Firebird whatsoever.

TL,DR: Talk about Firebird or gtfo. Unless your picture posts have some relevance to Firebird, don't post them. My patience with this is at an end, so consider this the final notice before I personally bring mods in.

(Sorry I have to be harsh, but it's getting kind of ridiculous.)
 
Wonder how long it'll be before the Wards and Protectorate manage to get her to come in. Out of curiosity, was there anything in the full membership paperwork about quitting?
 
Wonder how long it'll be before the Wards and Protectorate manage to get her to come in. Out of curiosity, was there anything in the full membership paperwork about quitting?
Full non-probation members can quit any time provided they have Guardian Authorization.
And since Danny is convinced that the Wards are the only place that Taylor will be safe, she'll probably be allowed to quit around the heat-death of the universe.

But, hey, look at the bright side: the Phoenix force can probably accelerate the process!
 
Full non-probation members can quit any time provided they have Guardian Authorization.
IIRC WoG is that leaving the Wards or Protectorate is a difficult process. You know too much to be totally trusted to leave. So there is likely a lot of follow up to make sure a Ward isn't selling out other members for a quick buck.
 
And since Danny is convinced that the Wards are the only place that Taylor will be safe, she'll probably be allowed to quit around the heat-death of the universe.

But, hey, look at the bright side: the Phoenix force can probably accelerate the process!
Or she could leave immediately after "convincing" him otherwise. Just like what she did to Gladly!
 
Or she could leave immediately after "convincing" him otherwise. Just like what she did to Gladly!
Could be wrong, but she doesn't know about that yet. Then again... she could stay after "convincing" everyone in the organization to get themselves wrapped around her little finger.

Personally, I'm really hoping she doesn't join up, or even stop hating them or her father for it. They really don't deserve her trust or respect. This isn't a matter of "she's right, they're wrong" so much as they've fucked up so much, changed her life so much even after they were told not to, that if she was to actually start trusting them enough to willingly join them it just wouldn't make sense.

People end up estranged from loved ones/family for less than what Taylor's been through, and with the Phoenix Force feeding her independence/individualism, I can only see her drawing away from everyone more.
 
So you want her to pull a Heartbreaker?
I'm not sure where I said I wanted her to do that, I said it was an option available to her (even though I don't think she knows it yet, I put it out as something that 'could bu wont' happen).

More specifically:
Personally, I'm really hoping she doesn't join up, or even stop hating them or her father for it.
I can only see her drawing away from everyone more.
I said pretty much the opposite of her becoming another Heartbreaker.
 
Just never reloaded page to see your message.
Well, my post is about 6 hours later than the other one so...

Anyway, I don't think that was being suggested by SwiftRosenthal either. What was suggested was a one off thing, changing the way her father looks at a single facet of their life, rather than Heartbreakers 'You are now fanatically devoted to me' actions. Taylor could possibly do that, but it's not something she would do, especially not to her father, no matter what she might think of him.

You know... if she realizes she can do this and if she can come up with decent reasons, she might be able to have herself kicked out of the Wards like this as well. 'Convince' Piggot that she's not Wards material, that she'd be too much trouble, that she's impulsive and reckless with an ego the size of the Protectorate base, and then she wouldn't even have to do anything to her father. Hell, she could turn to him and say "See? I told you it wouldn't work out."

She'd have to be extremely careful to do it in such a way that it didn't trip Master/Stranger warnings, or get her arrested (or both, since M/S actions against Piggot would very quickly lead to problems if it got found out) though. Probably not something she could manage at this point.
 
Well, my post is about 6 hours later than the other one so...

Anyway, I don't think that was being suggested by SwiftRosenthal either. What was suggested was a one off thing, changing the way her father looks at a single facet of their life, rather than Heartbreakers 'You are now fanatically devoted to me' actions. Taylor could possibly do that, but it's not something she would do, especially not to her father, no matter what she might think of him.

You know... if she realizes she can do this and if she can come up with decent reasons, she might be able to have herself kicked out of the Wards like this as well. 'Convince' Piggot that she's not Wards material, that she'd be too much trouble, that she's impulsive and reckless with an ego the size of the Protectorate base, and then she wouldn't even have to do anything to her father. Hell, she could turn to him and say "See? I told you it wouldn't work out."

She'd have to be extremely careful to do it in such a way that it didn't trip Master/Stranger warnings, or get her arrested (or both, since M/S actions against Piggot would very quickly lead to problems if it got found out) though. Probably not something she could manage at this point.
I often have upwards of 20 tabs open...I don't usually take the time to reload them.

She really wouldn't even need the Mind control part...just a few nudges here and there on the emotional spectrum.

Though once people realize that she has a higher Master potential than Gallant,Cherish, and Heartbreaker.

Bricks shall be shat.
 
She really wouldn't even need the Mind control part...just a few nudges here and there on the emotional spectrum.
See, that's why I think she'd fail at it. That would be the best way to do it because it slowly changes people (sort of like what Cherish was trying to do), but it'd take time, and at this point Taylor's not really that big on the 'be patient' side of things. I think she's more likely (if she was aware she could do this) to just rush into it and hope no one notices.

Sure, her precog would help, but she can't (yet) see weeks into the future where Piggots actions finally get noticed somewhere else and get looked into. So it'd work in the short term, then lead to much bigger problems in the long term... kind of makes me think it might happen, now that I've put it into words like that.

Poor Taylor.
 
Of course it's going to Happen.
Worm's Theme is, Things Get Worse.
Maybe. I think Chibipoe's more than capable of not relying on that though. I don't think Taylor's current problems are going to stick around for long, because as she gets stronger her current issues will be easily ignored/overcome and I think she'll have to start dealing with the identity/PF problems more.
 
I'm sure Piggot wouldn't be entirely pleased (having butted heads with Carol Dallon), but Armsmaster and Militia would be slightly comforted by the idea that Sirin was hanging out with New Wave. At least she'd be associating with a competent hero group.

Also, it occurs to me that the omake where Sirin and Glory Girl are hanging out in the air above the Protectorate base would be just fine as they knew where she was.

Armsmaster: "Hello, Miss Hebert, Miss Dallon! Sorry to disturb you. But could you please move fifty feet up?"
Sirin: "Uh, sure ... but what, you're not trying to recruit me?"
Armsmaster: "You're here in our airspace, you're not doing anything objectionable, we'd just like you fifty feet up because of the transdimensional sensor fragmobstulators. It's not a problem. Fifty feet up? ... thank you. You being here is just fine. Paperwork is completely satisfied. We can send up tea if you'd like. Earl Grey, black? And for you, Miss Dallon?"
 
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