Firebird, a Worm AU/Xover?

God damn this is just a train wreck waiting to happen. Constantly poking Taylor will not let her calm the fuck down and think, it would only have her get angry.

Dumbasses.
 
Also, Vista needs to harden the fuck up. If you don't want to be treated like a child, try not storming out like Raising Helen. Dealing with idiot jokes is part of being an adult.
*tries not to laugh*
*Fails*

Most adults don't even act mature enough to do that, what do you expect from a hormonal girl.

God damn this is just a train wreck waiting to happen. Constantly poking Taylor will not let her calm the fuck down and think, it would only have her get angry.

Dumbasses.

To be fair they don't know that Simurgh is SirenLite.
 
It's in the post you quoted. That's from SB's WOG thread.
That WOG was justifying the leadership selection process as not being about age being a good selector and instead being about each capable Ward getting a chance to try.

You also conveniently chopped off the rest of it which specifically mentioned Sophia being ineligible due to her probation.

WOG said:
hellgodsrus said:
Probably not, but I could see it happening. Or let's say Sophia was a little older and became Wards leader when Aegis got Leviathaned - result? She gives herself full authorisation to go off and paste random gangers for shits and giggles. Doing it just by age is dumb - age isn't necessarily an indicator of experience when you can trigger whenever, and being older doesn't necessarily mean being smarter or better qualified.
It's not about age or seniority. But giving a Ward a leadership role for a time is Armsmaster's own approach, and failing anything else, a Ward with experience & age is going to get their turn, even if it's a short one. Gives the PRT leadership of Brockton Bay (Armsmaster, MM, Piggot) a chance to assess their skills.

Sophia wouldn't ever get a leadership role in the Wards, as she remains a probationary ward until she turns 18. See PRT quest details for more on the PRT approach to this stuff. This means, also, that Sophia doesn't have access to confidential files, and there's a PRT officer working with her at all times (seen in the school meeting).
Canon strongly implies BB Wards get chances at leadership based primarily on age. This WOG clarifies that isn't some steadfast rule that is stuck to at all cost, but still precludes Vista from consideration due to her youth.
 
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It's in the post you quoted. That's from SB's WOG thread.
But that WOG says that armsmaster takes age and experience, so age is still a factor. Also that look up to thing may have a he as a factor anyway as teens won't like orders from a 12 year old. Also if all wards(minus probation wards) get leadership time like that implied then vista can't have leed until she's oldest as the seemingly only way to lose leed is to grad to the protectorate and if she was lesser then no one else could have an assessment leed time.
 
Ah...cool

Ease up on the heat we dun wanna start a flame war, else chibi will go Accelerator on our asses.

Yes in hindsight that that came out wrong.

.....

Fk it I give.
 
and if vista was good enough not to get the boot others would lose there chance. I like how you never actually give responses to any parts to don't win in.
Fine you're right Vista's age is the reason she's not Ward leader. Can we move on? My original point was that Vista is a kid and teasing her about that isn't mean. I don't think he was being mean. Insensitive, sure, but not mean. Mean would be telling her to sit at the kids table while the grown ups talked. Mean is a deliberate effort to make someone feel bad.

...
You started the post off talking about Sophia's ineligibility though...0o
I started the post by saying she wouldn't be made Ward leader, and turns out she wouldn't be made Ward leader. It's not relevant to the argument if it's purely age that makes someone Ward leader.
 
We're getting weirdly intense for this string of discussion guys. For myself I do think that for the Wards age is the central deciding factor and something like ability only factors in if the oldest at the time shows he/she outright can't do the job properly. And of course their are other factors like probations but both of those cases would be exceptions to the rule and not the rule itself.

Edit: annnnd the discussion cooled back down in the time it took me to post, how awkward
 
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Stormtiger's air guitar and Brad's secret "Hookwoofer" maneuver ensure that it won't be easy for Taylor.

Can I sig this? It's hilarious! :rofl:

Most adults don't even act mature enough to do that, what do you expect from a hormonal girl.

Just look at people and the amount of anger that comes out of them when you ask them to refrain from using their Cell phone in the car, or in the theater, or the bank, mall, hospital, airplane, etc.

I can only hope they get caught up in a bank robbery and rather than drop to their knees they keep trying to text and they get testy with the robbers who them shoot them as an example.

Just the other day I had to swerve my car to avoid a fucking jackass on his bright pink BMX because he was too busy texting to ride fast enough for the bike to balance itself in a straight line. What kind of idiot Texts while riding a bicycle on the road?
 
Here people are nitpicking over Vista's, a 12 year old, actions.
Over at SB people are nitpicking over which way a door opens.

Jesus, people, way to look at the important stuff.
 
So Taylor seems to be slowly losing her mind, sounding less and less like her. Visions of Tk compacted goons flit through her mind one second and then later she talks about how she ain't even mad.

Suspiciously convenient dwellings and heroes able to track her down bizarrely quick.

I find Piggot's plan of "keep annoying her" suspect, and she can't blame tampering with the paperwork this time. Still surprised she didn't just lose the forms and tell Danny off: she seemed aware that this wasn't how anyone would get what they wanted. I wonder if she's being this aggressive just to be sure someone is there when their mole makes a move on her? Still seems like there has to be a better way.

The end was a bit vague. Does Kaiser think Sirin is a new ABB cape, or is he referring to Bakuda? Either way, any kind of Empire action in the docks is likely to get Taylor's attention.

I do hope this means we're moving past the Ward recruitment drama and into some more interesting conflicts.
 
I find Piggot's plan of "keep annoying her" suspect, and she can't blame tampering with the paperwork this time. Still surprised she didn't just lose the forms and tell Danny off: she seemed aware that this wasn't how anyone would get what they wanted. I wonder if she's being this aggressive just to be sure someone is there when their mole makes a move on her? Still seems like there has to be a better way.
When in doubt assume Coil shenanigans.
 
I do not see how any of this discussion is relevant to the story. Especially since WoG is normally mere guidelines for the fanfiction author.

If the fanfic author wants to change how leadership is chosen in the wards, she will do so.

And then people will whine about that is not what the WoG says.

Because people can be jerks like that.

What I'm trying to say is this.

This is a fanfic, not a WoG depository where people should argue about it here.


If this discussion was already completed when I typed this. Please ignore me.


IGNORE ME!
 
I find Piggot's plan of "keep annoying her" suspect, and she can't blame tampering with the paperwork this time. Still surprised she didn't just lose the forms and tell Danny off: she seemed aware that this wasn't how anyone would get what they wanted. I wonder if she's being this aggressive just to be sure someone is there when their mole makes a move on her? Still seems like there has to be a better way.
I think the idea was that the Wards try and be her friend in the hopes she'll see them as not so bad. However she failed to tell the Wards the goal and they fumbled it a bit.
 
I do hope this means we're moving past the Ward recruitment drama and into some more interesting conflicts.

I concur with this wholeheartedly. Doesn't even have to be a physical conflict, since Taylor either already stomps or will soon be able to stomp potential threats. Just something other than her angrydepressedbetrayed mood that has been going on for...what, eight or nine chapters?
 
I concur with this wholeheartedly. Doesn't even have to be a physical conflict, since Taylor either already stomps or will soon be able to stomp potential threats. Just something other than her angrydepressedbetrayed mood that has been going on for...what, eight or nine chapters?

You know it hasn't been that long in the story with that mood right?

You can't just expect her to just instantly get over it.
 
It serves those bastards right.
You realize in the scheme of things she's not making any major impact on the people who run the lottery? Most are even subsidized by the state so no matter how much she wins it means little. It's like robbing a bank, she stealing, but what ever money she gets will go right back in days.
 
You know it hasn't been that long in the story with that mood right?

You can't just expect her to just instantly get over it.

Story wise, it fits, and in that regard, there isn't any problem with it.

For the reader and commentor, not having anything relatively new to talk about for eight or so chapters leads to what happened here: a circuitous ethical argument that led no where because all the participants had their own steadfast opinions.
 
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Very few typos this chapter.
the thought of doing it of taking my anger and frustration out on them felt good.
It seems like there's a bit of a disconnect between these words. I'm not 100% sure, but I think this would be an apt place to use a '-' symbol to show a break in her train of thought.
I heard him call out my cape name once more before I fully took off, my increasing speed carrying me out of range."
Random quotation mark.
.This at least gave me hot water and electricity for the moment.
Missing space after the period.
After some cleaning it was, not only a tolerable place to live, but a good one.
The red comma shouldn't be there. The text between the commas is not a parenthetical statement. Rather, the green words join two independent clauses with a correlative conjunction.
clicked shut fully shut
Extra 'shut'.

As for the content of the chapter, I enjoyed it and could find no faults in it.

We got to see Sirin display some of the improvement in her powers. She's also displaying a severe lack of empathy (it's funny because she's an empath) and desensitization to violence, but hey, nothing wrong with that.
The large amount of exposition was tempered with a satisfying amount of introspection on Taylor's part. My only complaint is that I would have liked to see the introduction between all of her friends, as well as some of the interactions surrounding them.
The scene with the Wards was nice to see, even if Clockblocker was being a dick. I particularly liked that we finally get to see Gallant make a connection between the emotional voids he gets from Taylor and Sirin.
Kaiser is planning some shit that will undoubtedly result property damage, hero, villain, and civilian casualties, and a pissed off Taylor (not necessarily in that order). Seems normal.

All in all a very strong chapter, and I have only one question: the fuck has Amy been doing? She gets some sort of sinister plan and we don't get to learn more about it? So cruel! :cry:

Anyway, I'm looking forward to more!

To be fair they don't know that Simurgh is SirenLite.
I laughed very hard at this because it is so true.
 
You realize in the scheme of things she's not making any major impact on the people who run the lottery? Most are even subsidized by the state so no matter how much she wins it means little. It's like robbing a bank, she stealing, but what ever money she gets will go right back in days.

I know, but this way the lottery is actually being useful to someone instead of just being a money sink.

For the reader and commentor, not having anything relatively new to talk about for eight or so chapters leads to what happened here: a circuitous ethical argument that led know where because all the participants had their own steadfast opinions.

Ah, one of the curses to not having a full story to read. I suggest you not read the story for about 8 or ten chapters then bulk read it later.
 
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