OverReactionGuy
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God damn this is just a train wreck waiting to happen. Constantly poking Taylor will not let her calm the fuck down and think, it would only have her get angry.
Dumbasses.
Dumbasses.
*tries not to laugh*Also, Vista needs to harden the fuck up. If you don't want to be treated like a child, try not storming out like Raising Helen. Dealing with idiot jokes is part of being an adult.
God damn this is just a train wreck waiting to happen. Constantly poking Taylor will not let her calm the fuck down and think, it would only have her get angry.
Dumbasses.
That WOG was justifying the leadership selection process as not being about age being a good selector and instead being about each capable Ward getting a chance to try.
Canon strongly implies BB Wards get chances at leadership based primarily on age. This WOG clarifies that isn't some steadfast rule that is stuck to at all cost, but still precludes Vista from consideration due to her youth.WOG said:It's not about age or seniority. But giving a Ward a leadership role for a time is Armsmaster's own approach, and failing anything else, a Ward with experience & age is going to get their turn, even if it's a short one. Gives the PRT leadership of Brockton Bay (Armsmaster, MM, Piggot) a chance to assess their skills.hellgodsrus said:Probably not, but I could see it happening. Or let's say Sophia was a little older and became Wards leader when Aegis got Leviathaned - result? She gives herself full authorisation to go off and paste random gangers for shits and giggles. Doing it just by age is dumb - age isn't necessarily an indicator of experience when you can trigger whenever, and being older doesn't necessarily mean being smarter or better qualified.
Sophia wouldn't ever get a leadership role in the Wards, as she remains a probationary ward until she turns 18. See PRT quest details for more on the PRT approach to this stuff. This means, also, that Sophia doesn't have access to confidential files, and there's a PRT officer working with her at all times (seen in the school meeting).
But that WOG says that armsmaster takes age and experience, so age is still a factor. Also that look up to thing may have a he as a factor anyway as teens won't like orders from a 12 year old. Also if all wards(minus probation wards) get leadership time like that implied then vista can't have leed until she's oldest as the seemingly only way to lose leed is to grad to the protectorate and if she was lesser then no one else could have an assessment leed time.
I didn't see it as relevant since we're not talking about Sophia.You also conveniently chopped off the rest of it which specifically mentioned Sophia being ineligible due to her probation.
Or death, or if people decide you don't have what it takes.the seemingly only way to lose leed is to grad to the protectorate
and if vista was good enough not to get the boot others would lose there chance. I like how you never actually give responses to any parts to don't win in.
...I didn't see it as relevant since we're not talking about Sophia.
Red doesn't like to be shown wrong so they ignore things like logic or reality...
You started the post off talking about Sophia's ineligibility though...0o
Fine you're right Vista's age is the reason she's not Ward leader. Can we move on? My original point was that Vista is a kid and teasing her about that isn't mean. I don't think he was being mean. Insensitive, sure, but not mean. Mean would be telling her to sit at the kids table while the grown ups talked. Mean is a deliberate effort to make someone feel bad.and if vista was good enough not to get the boot others would lose there chance. I like how you never actually give responses to any parts to don't win in.
I started the post by saying she wouldn't be made Ward leader, and turns out she wouldn't be made Ward leader. It's not relevant to the argument if it's purely age that makes someone Ward leader....
You started the post off talking about Sophia's ineligibility though...0o
Stormtiger's air guitar and Brad's secret "Hookwoofer" maneuver ensure that it won't be easy for Taylor.
Most adults don't even act mature enough to do that, what do you expect from a hormonal girl.
When in doubt assume Coil shenanigans.I find Piggot's plan of "keep annoying her" suspect, and she can't blame tampering with the paperwork this time. Still surprised she didn't just lose the forms and tell Danny off: she seemed aware that this wasn't how anyone would get what they wanted. I wonder if she's being this aggressive just to be sure someone is there when their mole makes a move on her? Still seems like there has to be a better way.
I think the idea was that the Wards try and be her friend in the hopes she'll see them as not so bad. However she failed to tell the Wards the goal and they fumbled it a bit.I find Piggot's plan of "keep annoying her" suspect, and she can't blame tampering with the paperwork this time. Still surprised she didn't just lose the forms and tell Danny off: she seemed aware that this wasn't how anyone would get what they wanted. I wonder if she's being this aggressive just to be sure someone is there when their mole makes a move on her? Still seems like there has to be a better way.
I do hope this means we're moving past the Ward recruitment drama and into some more interesting conflicts.
I concur with this wholeheartedly. Doesn't even have to be a physical conflict, since Taylor either already stomps or will soon be able to stomp potential threats. Just something other than her angrydepressedbetrayed mood that has been going on for...what, eight or nine chapters?
Here people are nitpicking over Vista's, a 12 year old, actions.
Over at SB people are nitpicking over which way a door opens.
Jesus, people, way to look at the important stuff.
You realize in the scheme of things she's not making any major impact on the people who run the lottery? Most are even subsidized by the state so no matter how much she wins it means little. It's like robbing a bank, she stealing, but what ever money she gets will go right back in days.
You know it hasn't been that long in the story with that mood right?
You can't just expect her to just instantly get over it.
It seems like there's a bit of a disconnect between these words. I'm not 100% sure, but I think this would be an apt place to use a '-' symbol to show a break in her train of thought.the thought of doing it of taking my anger and frustration out on them felt good.
Random quotation mark.I heard him call out my cape name once more before I fully took off, my increasing speed carrying me out of range."
Missing space after the period..This at least gave me hot water and electricity for the moment.
The red comma shouldn't be there. The text between the commas is not a parenthetical statement. Rather, the green words join two independent clauses with a correlative conjunction.After some cleaning it was, not only a tolerable place to live, but a good one.
Extra 'shut'.
I laughed very hard at this because it is so true.
You realize in the scheme of things she's not making any major impact on the people who run the lottery? Most are even subsidized by the state so no matter how much she wins it means little. It's like robbing a bank, she stealing, but what ever money she gets will go right back in days.
For the reader and commentor, not having anything relatively new to talk about for eight or so chapters leads to what happened here: a circuitous ethical argument that led know where because all the participants had their own steadfast opinions.