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Fire Emblem: Last of the Manakete

What would readers prefer?

  • Pure narrative quest: no dice will be used, the author will have free reign to decide what happens.

    Votes: 25 59.5%

  • New dice system: the author will design a new, better dice system to add some randomness and risk.

    Votes: 17 40.5%
  • Total voters
    42
  • Poll closed .
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GreatWyrmGold said:
Exactly as hard as bows do. Most games do this by tripling the base Might of the weapon; this doesn't triple the user's offensive stats, but it also doesn't triple the defender's defensive stats, so this generally more than triples damage. It's extremely common for player-controlled pegasus knights to get one-shot by mook archers who the player didn't notice...um, or so I've heard.
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glance over at Robin's Silver Bow, glance back at Rachel the Wyvern Rider who's also facing Ryza's Thunder's Cry effective damage.

There's a reason "run and blast her down with extreme prejudice" is my plan. It should be enough to drop the big threat and from there it's cleanup.
 
[X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
-[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue. Transform if needed, but stick to ranged fire if possible.
 
[X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
-[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue. Transform if needed, but stick to ranged fire if possible.
 
[X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
-[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue. Transform if needed, but stick to ranged fire if possible.
 
What makes me think the vote to transform later is a bit out of place because of the assumption that it won't use Anger like the original vote.

I am alright with running, but voting on escaping and trying to transform while under the impression that it won't use Anger or Fear bothers me.
 
[X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
-[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue. Transform if needed, but stick to ranged fire if possible.

Robin's probably not going to one-shot the boss unless he crits. Robin and Ryza together however, will probably be enough to, if not take them down entirely, at least knock out either the rider or the wyvern. Ideally we'd take out the rider and leave the wyvern to go feral on its comrades, but there's a good chance it's well-trained to the point that it'll simply remain on standby if the rider falls, so I won't hold my breath on that outcome.
 
Barondoctor said:
GreatWyrmGold said:
Exactly as hard as bows do. Most games do this by tripling the base Might of the weapon; this doesn't triple the user's offensive stats, but it also doesn't triple the defender's defensive stats, so this generally more than triples damage. It's extremely common for player-controlled pegasus knights to get one-shot by mook archers who the player didn't notice...um, or so I've heard.
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glance over at Robin's Silver Bow, glance back at Rachel the Wyvern Rider who's also facing Ryza's Thunder's Cry effective damage.

There's a reason "run and blast her down with extreme prejudice" is my plan. It should be enough to drop the big threat and from there it's cleanup.
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I would like to point to the other part of that post. Because while I thought that sounded like a good idea at first...
GreatWyrmGold said:
Point is, I wouldn't be surprised if a good archer (like Robin clearly is) would one-shot a typical wyvern rider. Wyverns generally have higher Defense than pegasi, but Robin is no mook.

Of course, Rachel isn't a typical wyvern rider. Sticking to the games for a bit longer, it's pretty common for named "boss" enemies to have skills, items, or something that lets them mitigate or ignore their class's Achilles heels. Even if Rachel doesn't have the equivalent of Iote's shield, she's probably tough enough that we can't just trivially shoot her down.
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...I had second thoughts.
 
GreatWyrmGold said:
I would like to point to the other part of that post. Because while I thought that sounded like a good idea at first...

...I had second thoughts.
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Allow me to direct you to this exchange;
JAGwin said:
Don't forget that Rachel isn't wearing armor right now. :V
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Barondoctor said:
Does that sound like a physical defense penalty to anybody else? Because it sure sounds like one to me.
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Note that the QM rated Baron's post as Insightful, so I'm pretty sure he's onto something here.
 
[X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
-[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue.

This sounds about aligned with the thoughts I had earlier so yeah. FWIW, I'm omitting the transform part of the subvote because we've already been told that Ryza will transform to prevent loss of life so it feels a bit redundant to me as that's pretty much the only scenario I'd concede and agree we had to transform.
 
[X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
-[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue. Transform if needed, but stick to ranged fire if possible.
 
[X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
-[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue. Transform if needed, but stick to ranged fire if possible.
 
[X] This is not the place nor the time for subtlety. Shift into dragon form and kill that wyvern. If humans fear dragons, then you will use that to your advantage! Let these Talons know your wrath! (Anger and Determination shine in your soul.)
 
[X] This is not the place nor the time for subtlety. Shift into dragon form and kill that wyvern. If humans fear dragons, then you will use that to your advantage! Let these Talons know your wrath! (Anger and Determination shine in your soul.)
 
Considering we set her tent on fire and the wyvern rider ran out of the tent without her armor, I think it's fairly safe to say that unless her Iote's Shield is a charm she wears around her neck (in which case we should most definitely kill her for that LOOT!), she's probably not carrying it and thus blasting her down from outside of her range should be considerably less difficult than might be otherwise considered.
 
[X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
-[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue. Transform if needed, but stick to ranged fire if possible.
 
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    • Scheduled vote count started by SoaringHawk218 on Sep 26, 2022 at 12:08 AM, finished with 65 posts and 35 votes.
    • [X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
      -[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue. Transform if needed, but stick to ranged fire if possible.
      [X] This is not the place nor the time for subtlety. Shift into dragon form and kill that wyvern. If humans fear dragons, then you will use that to your advantage! Let these Talons know your wrath! (Anger and Determination shine in your soul.)
      [X] This is not the place nor the time for subtlety. Shift into dragon form and kill that wyvern. If humans fear dragons, then you will use that to your advantage! Let these Talons know your wrath!
      [X] Try to engage and kill the wyvern and the nearby Talons. While you could try to run, it would take a little time to get everyone on horses. Better to clear the area, or at least, before making your escape.
      [X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
      [X] The unexpected reunion with a friend fills you with determination!
      [X] This is not the place nor the time for subtlety. Shift into dragon form and kill that wyvern. If humans fear dragons, then you will use that to your advantage! Let these Talons know your wrath! (Anger and Determination shine in your soul.)
      -[X] Remind yourself that you're only fighting to make sure you have a chance to escape.
      [X] Suggest an immediate retreat. While you might be able to win this fight by working together, you already have Sypha. Just leave, this doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
      -[X] Be ready to kill the wyvern and rider when they pursue.
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    Well that was a pretty big turnaround.

    I actually have already done the rolling: I had some free time today and thought I'd go through it, so the update probably won't be too far out.

    As for how the rolls went... well, let's just say stuff happened.
     
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