This bit, Caster refuted Ritsuka's theory. Just a moment that doesn't convert well to text.
Eh, I can kind of see it, but it doesn't really sound like 'speaking with authority' to me. It feels like (at most) casual knowledge. Although I realize that at this point I'm just splitting hairs, but on the internet, such pointless nitpicking is our god given right!
 
"Your will is admirable, but I will break it - or I will break you."

"Try… me…" He manages, despite the concussion.

The Dragon Witch snarls and storms off. "Tend to him," she orders as she leaves, "But make him suffer for it."
......I know that Ritsuka and Mashu are going to be a couple but ohhh my gosh I really want to ship this.
 
Eh, I can kind of see it, but it doesn't really sound like 'speaking with authority' to me. It feels like (at most) casual knowledge.
...You know, considering the subject, guys (and girls) who can casually talk about cursecraft was actually pretty rare. And the one who can casually talk while showing their fluffy tail was even more rare. Maybe that was what tipped him.
 
Isn't Jeanne not supposed to use her sword?
Nah, using the sword is just fine. La Pucelle is a specific ritual that involves her holding it by the blade instead of the grip while the handle turns into a fuckmassive stream of flames.
La Pucelle when sealed is a a C-rank sword NP, La Pucelle unsealed is the triple-EX "everything is fire and so am I" suicide move. She can absolutely still use it because hey a C-rank NP is nothing to sneeze at, but like her historical counterpart she much prefers her banner as a weapon. It's just about the only part of the Fate series Jeanne that's actually historically accurate.

......I know that Ritsuka and Mashu are going to be a couple but ohhh my gosh I really want to ship this.
Friendly reminder that it's Rin harem canonically, and that Ritsuka is his mother's son. :p Then again he already has his Saberface and +1 so...
 
Eh, I can kind of see it, but it doesn't really sound like 'speaking with authority' to me. It feels like (at most) casual knowledge. Although I realize that at this point I'm just splitting hairs, but on the internet, such pointless nitpicking is our god given right!
That moment is Ritsuka realizing mid-argument that he's trying to argue Curses with a lady whose legend involves being an incredibly powerful curse and who knows everything there is to know about curses.

If she says he's just a heavy sleeper, it isn't just her being cute. Its the world's leading expert on the subject telling him he's wrong while being cute.
 
I had to reread that bit once too to see where Ritsuka heard Tamamo speak of curses, but I got it right after. It does make sense for him to come to his conclusion.
It's very casual and off-the-cuff, but she's a world-class expert on curses and junk. She's allowed to go 'Nah, you're lazy, also Camilla's curses are for babies', even if she never ever makes another curse herself and her skill at actual magecraft is pants(Her skill at primordial magic use is another thing entirely).

And I see that Alter doesn't appreciate how things might have gone differently had she forced the fox to join battle-but that would have required using a command seal by the look of things.
 
Jeanne will forgive you for making her suffer like this... The idiot Jeanne... The not alter one.
 
Oddly enough how casual she was actual made it read heavier for me because of who she is. Her being relaxed and cute means she's in her element.

And J-Alter could be the Luvia to his Rin. There's definite tension there, albeit eighty plus percent of that is cross purposes and saving humanity.
 
He will tell her everything she needs, or he will burn for his defiance.

She looks over her shoulder at the carcass the Lancer brought with him. "Leave that here. It might help with my plan."
Ah, an army of dragon tooth warriors.
"Yeah, I know. It's an inherently awful idea. I'm just…" The door to her room opens, and Kana looks up to find Mashu, caked in blood and dust, holding out a thermos to her with a concerned smile. "...Really, really thirsty."
No, bad Kana, bad. Never drink straight from the source, always use a glass.
"There isn't one," Shielder says ruefully. "I checked. And bathing isn't an option, the river's choked with people."

"...Yikes, I'm sorry."

"They're not dead, senpai. They're bathing. Jeanne told them to."

Kana looks at her, her eyes unfocused and unblinking.

"...Kana-senpai?"

"I did not need that mental image," Kana whimpers, and begins curling up into a tiny ball.
Kana is more innocent than I expected.
Ritsuka is no social savant, but he has dealt with enough irate women in his life to know to butter them up before going forward. "You're more who I expected for Jeanne D'Arc, all things considered. You seem more like the girl who fought the English."

She harrumphs, but her sneer lightens. "Flattery will get you nowhere." She averts her gaze slightly. "And neither will harlotry. Where is your shirt?"

"Back in Orleans. You'll just have to deal with it."

She sneers, and circles around to his side. "What is your purpose here? Why would you stand in the path of justice?"

"You're burning France to burn England. It doesn't take two brain cells to see that fighting genocide is never a bad thing."

Ritsuka only has just enough time to harden his face before the Dragon Witch backhands him with a hand clad in jagged steel. Even then, it leaves long cuts and severe bruises on his face. "Know your place. You are a prisoner. Your life is in my hands, and I could end it without a thought."

"You say that, but we both know that isn't an option. You need information, and you have me at your mercy. Unless," Ritsuka says, eyes narrowed, "You're so volatile, so desperate to affirm your superiority, that you'd throw away a perfectly cooperative prisoner just because I'm giving you some lip. Tell me I'm wrong, General."

The Witch places an arm on his shoulder and squeezes hard enough to draw blood, but Ritsuka doesn't even flinch. He's used to pain. Magecraft, and martial arts, can't be taught without a bit of sacrifice. "Talk, Chaldean. What is your purpose here? Why fight me?"

"You are a threat to history, the source of a Singularity that is destabilising the Human Order. Jeanne D'Arc died in 1431, and most certainly did not return to life shortly thereafter as a Witch at the head of an army of monsters and servants to terrorise France," Ritsuka tells her matter-of-factly. "You are one of seven reasons humanity dies six hundred years in the future. And to save them, you have to die."

The fallen Saint lets go of his shoulder. She walks around and looks him dead in the eye, peering deep into Ritsuka's soul with her pale yellow eyes. "You want to kill me."

"I have to kill you," Ritsuka corrects. "You are a threat to history. You, and the Grail you possess."

The Witch narrows her eyes. She grabs him by the neck suddenly, squeezing hard enough to throttle his breath - but not enough to truly suffocate him. "You will try," she snarls through gritted teeth. "But you cannot, will not, kill me. I am vengeance, the fury of France incarnate. I return to avenge my death and countless others and nothing, not that fool or her army or your delusions, will stop me from finding it. England will burn as they burned me."

"Then… why… France…" Ritsuka gasps. He does not beg for his life; there is no point. There is no reason to fear for his life, because she will not kill him. And if she does then she is a bigger idiot than he knows. "Why… burn.. Your own…"

"I was betrayed, you foolish boy. If France is to find vengeance then all who betrayed me will die for it. It will be done, and nothing will stop me!" She lets go of his neck, leaving it a bloody mess covered in cuts. Ritsuka gasps for breath, hungry for air. But he glares at the Witch anyways, furiously defiant.

"Then you're a fucking idiot," he sneers. "Even if you succeed, there will be nothing left. You just finished the job for them."

She strikes him again, hard enough to blind him for an instant. The world spins as stars sparkle in the black void of his vision, and the countless bruises and cuts on his face sting. "Know your place," she growls. "Your will is admirable, but I will break it - or I will break you."

"Try… me…" He manages, despite the concussion.
Ritsuka has a spine of reinforced adamantium.
Carmilla steps through the door, quieter than a whisper, and expects to see a girl in chains, leaping with ecstasy to see her mistress return. What she sees is a girl seated on a chair opposite the door, a sword in her lap and her brow hard set. Her gold eyes glint in the moonlight, and are filled with a powerful defiance. The sweat that trails from her forehead, the loose unkemptness of her hair, and the trembling in her limbs hint at the weight of the Curse upon her, so close to its source. But she rejects them with a will unlike any other. "There you are, you fucking vampire," the girl hisses.

Carmilla's heart sings at such a sight. Oh, she will be a treat. She spreads her arms, sceptre hanging loosely. Daring her to make the first move. "I am nothing if not gracious, my dear. You may make the first move."

She screams, a raging holler, and thrusts the blade at her heart. A slow strike, clumsy and ponderous. Carmilla throws the blade aside with ease, and in a single motion grabs her by the neck and slams her against the ground. She squeezes, and still the girl swings for her heart. It's almost admirable if she wasn't a complete idiot. "You missed," Carmilla smirks, showing her fangs. "A futile effort. I wonder how much of your will you'll keep."

The window shatters suddenly. Carmilla is kicked through the door she entered, hard enough to see stars in her eyes. She looks up all the same, filled with the vitality of undeath, and bares her fangs at her assailant.

The Saint comes, walking with purpose, brandishing both her spear and sword. She strides forth not with fury on her face, but regret. "May God grant you mercy, Elizabeth," says Jeanne D'Arc.

"That is not my name," Carmilla hisses, and she turns to flee. With her speed, nothing should be able to catch up to her.

The Ruler lunges forward with her spear. Her aim is true beneath the eyes of God, and she runs Carmilla through the back of the neck. Carmilla trips and falls, thrown off by the spear through her jaw.

She hardly feels anything when Jeanne D'Arc rams both her sword and a long wooden pike through her heart.
Carmilla got too big for her breaches.
"I will be. It was necessary." She lets out a sigh, looking up at the cross atop a door. "I should be relieved. But right now, I just feel regret."
 
Mashu arrives soon, and she sees Jeanne standing over Carmilla's corpse, perfectly still. The vampire is already dissipating, defeated her and to return to the throne.
dissipating, the attack having defeated her and triggered a return to
La Pucelle when sealed is a a C-rank sword NP, La Pucelle unsealed is the triple-EX "everything is fire and so am I" suicide move. She can absolutely still use it because hey a C-rank NP is nothing to sneeze at, but like her historical counterpart she much prefers her banner as a weapon. It's just about the only part of the Fate series Jeanne that's actually historically accurate.
How effective would a banner be as a weapon, anyway? I mean, they're generally just long poles with some cloth attached to the tip, right? Decent enough bludgeoning tools, but not too good on the piercing front, I would think.
It's very casual and off-the-cuff, but she's a world-class expert on curses and junk. She's allowed to go 'Nah, you're lazy, also Camilla's curses are for babies', even if she never ever makes another curse herself and her skill at actual magecraft is pants(Her skill at primordial magic use is another thing entirely).
What's the difference between magecraft and primordial magic? We never really see her use it in /Extra, to my knowledge. I'm also wondering what her ofuda charms are, if not curse, now you've said she doesn't use curses anymore.
 
How effective would a banner be as a weapon, anyway? I mean, they're generally just long poles with some cloth attached to the tip, right? Decent enough bludgeoning tools, but not too good on the piercing front, I would think.
It's a spear with a banner attached to the shaft, as was common at the time. I'd wager it's a pretty good weapon as long as the banner isn't unfurled and it can still be used even then.
 
I would like to say (now that I've woken up several hours later) that this chapter was brought to you at 7am in the morning! If it feels like it ended abruptly, that's because it did. For me.

Also Jeanne's Lancer was Elizabeth Bathory.
 
How effective would a banner be as a weapon, anyway? I mean, they're generally just long poles with some cloth attached to the tip, right? Decent enough bludgeoning tools, but not too good on the piercing front, I would think.
It's a spear with a banner attached to the shaft, as was common at the time. I'd wager it's a pretty good weapon as long as the banner isn't unfurled and it can still be used even then.
Banner's function was basically to shows field commander the position of his battlegroup. It helps them to identify friend and foe position for both sides.

The intristic function: as long as the banner still stand and raised, you are almost certain that this battlegroup still held on, meaning friendly soldiers on the far side of the field knows their friend was there, fighting with them, and the frontline soldier knows that they had their back covered.

With this in mind, banner holder was both prestigious and dangerous, because they paint a big target in themselves, so naturay only the bravest, toughest warrior allowed to raised them. And that's why falling banner was considered a terrible luck, and why you had stories of entire battlegroup fighting to the last man, with banner still raised until the last man died, often refused to lay down their banner.

And also, this is where you got 'struck the banner' phrase.
 
He sure hopes Kana gets here soon, because fucking fuck Paris is awful.
To be fair Ritsuka, some opinions I heard say it isn't all that different now, so really, you didn't miss anything :V.
And then there is the will that burns in those eyes. Pure, unbridled hatred almost too intense to look at, that make her hard to see eye to eye with for long. That sheer zealotry, furious and murderous, could have inspired an army. And it must have.

This, frustratingly and funnily enough, is what he expected from Joan of Arc.
Alters are Ritsuka's kink, got it. All those singularities are going to rip to shreds any expectations this boy has.

I was under impression that Ritsuka ran out of fucks to give somewhere between France and Rome. It turns out, he never had any to begin with :V.

Also, for Christ sake Carmilla, that's what happens when you can't contain your lady boner. Not that going after Medea would be any different, you would just died with holes blown up all over your body.
 
How effective would a banner be as a weapon, anyway? I mean, they're generally just long poles with some cloth attached to the tip, right? Decent enough bludgeoning tools, but not too good on the piercing front, I would think.
@Highwind and @RBomber are both correct, the banner could be a perfectly serviceable weapon BUT its primary function is to inspire. That's why Luminosité Eternelle is a Noble Phantasm in the first place: just seeing it brings hope and makes you fight harder. Invincibility and a heal effect, eh? :V It's just this side of Avalon in terms of stupid busted, only the fact that it can break prevents it from being EX ranked itself.

Just a note, but Ruler isn't a combat class; going by the Class skills they're an administrative class that keeps other Servants in line via Command Spells and True Name Discernment. That's why in FGO they take half-damage from all the standard classes (save Berserkers), and neutral damage from the other Extras (save Cancer). The former they can control, the latter they can't, and BB continues to make no sense.

What's the difference between magecraft and primordial magic?
There are a whole bunch of specifics but it's basically a matter of power. Nasuverse mages are sorcerers with Prestidigitation and a few family spells who cap out at level 4, while Casters like Tamamo are running epic level builds.

Or squirt guns vs. fire hoses if you're boring. :p

To be fair Ritsuka, some opinions I heard say it isn't all that different now, so really, you didn't miss anything :V.
Oi. Paris is beautiful and inspiring, it's the Parisians who make visiting awful, and even they'll cut you a break if you have either vocab or pronunciation down and don't order coke in a decent restaurant.
 
"Mashu…" Roman clenches his fists, and nods resolutely. "He'll be fine. Ritsuka is a reliable young man. He'll be there when you march on Orleans."

"If
we march on Orleans," Mashu says drearily. "Caster claims to have a plan, but who knows how long that will take, or if it will work… Can we hold off another attack like that?"
Paris. They're marching on Paris. This would be a lot easier otherwise.

Also Jeanne's Lancer was Elizabeth Bathory.
Ouch.

Not something you could imagine from what little is said, but... ouch.
 
Oi. Paris is beautiful and inspiring, it's the Parisians who make visiting awful, and even they'll cut you a break if you have either vocab or pronunciation down and don't order coke in a decent restaurant.
I can attest to that. My Parisian friends are awful.
Also who orders coke on any restaurant?
 
Also who orders coke on any restaurant?
Americans, who else?

I do, cause I don't drink alcohol. Sue me. :V
Eh, fair. I'd still order sparkling water over soda at a white tablecloth place.

Getting back on subject, @Swordomatic I was wondering how you're handling Ascensions in the main. IIRC the Japanese version calls it something like "Saint Graph Recalibration", and it's not so much that you're boosting the Servant's power level so much as bringing them more in line with their legend/most famous self.... or shenanigans, as seen with Angra Mainyu.
 
Also who orders coke on any restaurant?
*raises hand*
I don't want to drink alcohol, so have never touched it. Having a drink with friends as a social bonding exercise can be done just as well if I remain sober and sipping water or soft drinks, I figure, so I'm not even missing out on anything there.
 
Americans, who else?


Eh, fair. I'd still order sparkling water over soda at a white tablecloth place.

Getting back on subject, @Swordomatic I was wondering how you're handling Ascensions in the main. IIRC the Japanese version calls it something like "Saint Graph Recalibration", and it's not so much that you're boosting the Servant's power level so much as bringing them more in line with their legend/most famous self.... or shenanigans, as seen with Angra Mainyu.
Fancy outfits, upgrades to their existing Skills and NPs, and brand new ones. It brings them closer to the actual Heroic Spirit, though there's always going to be a limit. The FATE System is bullshit but it can't actually recreate a Heroic Spirit, even through such an arduous process. But it can get close.

It also increases their upkeep correspondingly, however. And Craft Essences do something similar, if to a lesser extent - something I need to explore, fug.

Anyways next part (which may be a few weeks, months, or years away; I'm enlisting on Saturday) you have an one-armed man fighting a half-dragon boi and it will be the best thing you'll ever see. Somehow.
 
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