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codeRR said:
Hm...that is true, and can't Magnus eventually help us in our spell/warp usage?

and summoning the mindscape...would also allow Magnus to fight with us if you want a combative usage.
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Yes
Also the mindsccape at this point can become the Reality Marble, it's just only within him at the moment
 
Hm....if Magnus knew how the Iron men's power armor worked (the old models that regular people used I think) it might be possible to make. The more advanced Space Marine ones would require some bio-tinkering that isn't really in our realm of possibility
 
ryuan said:
What he will even do with his Reality Marble? UBW was useful, but if he gets one what could be there?

Unless it is filled to the brim with Astartes it would be quite useless to summon the plains and wastelands of his mindscape.
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This gives me an idea. So how about knowldge gives us an edge in things in structural analysis letting us understand objects including weapons and noble phantasms and how they were made and what would be needed to make them. Tools would let us create tools of course including giving us way to recreate most of what we see including NP(of course this would be limited). Warp and immaterium would then allow us to use our creation abilities to their full potential since warp and immaterium would let us do things like make it far easier to create objects in Shirou's mental landscape which he can store in there and later bring back out.

So the idea is that Shirou can easily recreate anything he sees inside his mental landscape thanks to tools, immaterium, knowldege and warp letting him both analyse and store objects data in his soul as a database while also letting him recreate anything by warping reality inside his own landscape to make it work. Of course it would be balanced out by certain things being way more costly to bring into the real world limiting what he could do. Though if he were to use his reality marble...

Examples of what he could do include is create 'pockets' of reality where they function like his reality marble but seperated from his soul. He could use his own brand of sorcery/magecraft to open up a 'gate' to a pocket and then chuck in materials which he could do far more in this pocket where his abilities would let him use the materials as if he was in the in his own version of the warp. So he could do something like create a highly advanced lab in his pocket much easier then he could in the materium and then move it to the real world while having a copy in his mental landscape.

So what do people think about my ideas? Because I think it could use some work.
 
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Red Bovine said:
This gives me an idea. So how about knowldge gives us an edge in things in structural analysis letting us understand objects including weapons and noble phantasms and how they were made and what would be needed to make them. Tools would let us create tools of course including giving us way to recreate most of what we see including NP(of course this would be limited). Warp and immaterium would then allow us to use our creation abilities to their full potential since warp and immaterium would let us do things like make it far easier to create objects in Shirou's mental landscape which he can store in there and later bring back out.

So the idea is that Shirou can easily recreate anything he sees inside his mental landscape thanks to tools, immaterium, knowldege and warp letting him both analyse and store objects data in his soul as a database while also letting him recreate anything by warping reality inside his own landscape to make it work. Of course it would be balanced out by certain things being way more costly to bring into the real world limiting what he could do. Though if he were to use his reality marble...

Examples of what he could do include is create 'pockets' of reality where they function like his reality marble but seperated from his soul. He could use his own brand of sorcery/magecraft to open up a 'gate' to a pocket and then chuck in materials which he could do far more in this pocket where his abilities would let him use the materials as if he was in the in his own version of the warp. So he could do something like create a highly advanced lab in his pocket much easier then he could in the materium and then move it to the real world while having a copy in his mental landscape.

So what do peopl think about my idea? Because I think it could use some work.
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Nice
 
Red Bovine said:
This gives me an idea. So how about knowldge gives us an edge in things in structural analysis letting us understand objects including weapons and noble phantasms and how they were made and what would be needed to make them. Tools would let us create tools of course including giving us way to recreate most of what we see including NP(of course this would be limited). Warp and immaterium would then allow us to use our creation abilities to their full potential since warp and immaterium would let us do things like make it far easier to create objects in Shirou's mental landscape which he can store in there and later bring back out.

So the idea is that Shirou can easily recreate anything he sees inside his mental landscape thanks to tools, immaterium, knowldege and warp letting him both analyse and store objects data in his soul as a database while also letting him recreate anything by warping reality inside his own landscape to make it work. Of course it would be balanced out by certain things being way more costly to bring into the real world limiting what he could do. Though if he were to use his reality marble...

Examples of what he could do include is create 'pockets' of reality where they function like his reality marble but seperated from his soul. He could use his own brand of sorcery/magecraft to open up a 'gate' to a pocket and then chuck in materials which he could do far more in this pocket where his abilities would let him use the materials as if he was in the in his own version of the warp. So he could do something like create a highly advanced lab in his pocket much easier then he could in the materium and then move it to the real world while having a copy in his mental landscape.

So what do peopl think about my idea? Because I think it could use some work.
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That is a appealing prospect
 
M3lk0r said:
Right one good look at Gae Bolg, now where do I find the skull of God, some things like that would be out of reach but others.....
well lets say that would make things very interesting
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Ah Gae Bolg...one of the most efficient and effective NP's. Though it would be a bitch to go against...wonder what Magnus would say about it and the curse it has.
 
codeRR said:
Ah Gae Bolg...one of the most efficient and effective NP's. Though it would be a bitch to go against...wonder what Magnus would say about it and the curse it has.
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probably laugh and alter fate so it narrowly misses.. that or he causes Lancer to slip screwing up the attack
 
Red Bovine said:
Pocket Marble idea
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So from my understanding we'd basically be using a hybrid of a Caster's Territory Creation and a Reality Marble to designate areas in the world where we have full access to our mindscape's data storage and creation. Is that a good TL;DR?

That would certainly be extremely versatile if that were the case; you could easily set up "safehouses" that only Shirou could access anywhere with enough time and effort. Though obviously that's all strictly hypothetical right now.
 
Dr. Snark said:
So from my understanding we'd basically be using a hybrid of a Caster's Territory Creation and a Reality Marble to designate areas in the world where we have full access to our mindscape's data storage and creation. Is that a good TL;DR?

That would certainly be extremely versatile if that were the case; you could easily set up "safehouses" that only Shirou could access anywhere with enough time and effort. Though obviously that's all strictly hypothetical right now.
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That was what I was thinking, also helps to make he perfect getaway
 
M3lk0r said:
Right one good look at Gae Bolg, now where do I find the skull of God, some things like that would be out of reach but others.....
well lets say that would make things very interesting
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I also had the idea that while there are quite a lot of things he could store in his mental landscape there are just some things that he just can't bring into the material world. Like how Archer could only use Excalibur inside UBW.

M3lk0r said:
He'd have to first make the armour or at least grasp and understand it to even make power armour, though Magnus could help, the the real question is how would he control them
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How about creating blank slates and then using his both knowledge origin and element to implant personalities into them that are designed to be ccompletely royal to him. Of course we could balance it out by making it a extremely big project that would require a number of things to work including telepathy and working on knowlegde origin/element.

Actually now that I think about it waht do you think of the idea of lighting which improves biomancy and could be linked to the idea of life being used to create custom creatures thanks to the synergy with knowledge duo nature? Maybe even let us create something similar to homunculi that we could design as whatever role we wanted them to serve including soldiers.

M3lk0r said:
That was what I was thinking, also helps to make he perfect getaway
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I was thinking something like that too but with the caveat that it would start off more like a pocket dimension first that Shirou would need to work on. It also gives him the benefit of being able to store tons of materials when needed.
 
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Red Bovine said:
I also had the idea that while there are quite a lot of things he could store in his mental landscape there are just some things that he just can't bring into the material world. Like how Archer could only use Excalibur inside UBW.



How about creating blank slates and then using his both knowledge origin and element to implant personalities into them that are designed to be ccompletely royal to him. Of course we could balance it out by making it a extremely big project that would require a number of things to work including telepathy and working on knowlegde origin/element.

Actually now that I think about it waht do you think of the idea of lighting which improves biomancy and could be linked to the idea of life being used to create custom creatures thanks to the synergy with knowledge duo nature? Maybe even let us create something similar to homunculi that we could design as whatever role we wanted them to serve including soldiers.



I was thinking something like that too but with the caveat that it would start off more like a pocket dimension first that Shirou would need to work on. It also gives him the benefit of being able to store tons of materials when needed.
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Yeah that is good
 
We would not be able to recreate Noble Phantasms. Canon Shirou only could because of the extreme focus of UBW. With this spread we might understand them better but we lose the ability to Trace them.
 
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