Fate/Grand Order (and maybe the other Nasuverse games) Megathread
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Weird I thought they were something like a hive-mind of multiple personalities. Then again Child Hassan's concept was of an amnesiac sleeping agent so it's probably disconnected from the rest
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Real whales always use Quartz to regen AP. That's how they farm enough to actually max level all of their 5* servants.
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I just went through my friendlist for fgo NA and am about to kick 4-5 people who obviously stopped playing. So incase someone is interested just send me a friend request. My ID is 687,879,755.
My lineup is a follows:
will send request soon, IGN Qinglong
I just went through my friendlist for fgo NA and am about to kick 4-5 people who obviously stopped playing. So incase someone is interested just send me a friend request. My ID is 687,879,755.
My lineup is a follows:
Sent Request. IGN Carwyn
Would it be better to roll for Tamamo now or during her rate up at Valentine's?
Valentine during her rate up period only female Servants can be drawn, which should increase chances for her.
But during that time compared to now, more Servants would be released, which would decrease chances.
I don't have a 5 Star yet so am saving my free Quartz.
Probably going to go for Tamamo, and later Jeanne Alter and Cu Alter and Merlin. Sherlock Holmes, Archer Artoria and Rider Morgan if I have enough for them.
Tamamo however isn't limited, so I'm not sure if I should go for her. It would be nice to get her, Emiya, Waver Zhuge Liang, and Jeanne vanilla, but they're all not limited.
Valentine during her rate up period only female Servants can be drawn, which should increase chances for her.
But during that time compared to now, more Servants would be released, which would decrease chances.
I don't have a 5 Star yet so am saving my free Quartz.
Probably going to go for Tamamo, and later Jeanne Alter and Cu Alter and Merlin. Sherlock Holmes, Archer Artoria and Rider Morgan if I have enough for them.
Tamamo however isn't limited, so I'm not sure if I should go for her. It would be nice to get her, Emiya, Waver Zhuge Liang, and Jeanne vanilla, but they're all not limited.
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The chance to draw Tamamo, as long as she is the only SSR on rate up, remains the same regardless of how many other Servants there are in the draw. The only thing that would decrease that chance is the addition of extra classes, if I recall the way the gacha works correctly.
Omegahugger
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If you want any given Servant, it is better to roll for them during their rate-ups. Even if they are available outside of events, the chances of actually pulling them are slim.
In fact, I haven't even pulled a non-rate up 5* in like 1½ year, though that is admittedly also statistically unlikely.
In fact, I haven't even pulled a non-rate up 5* in like 1½ year, though that is admittedly also statistically unlikely.
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Your chances of getting a given Servant when they're not on rate-up are so infinitesimally small that trying to count on it would be absolute insanity. The best you can ever hope for are happy spookums while you're actually rolling for something-or-other else - I rolled at a relatively steady pace for a F2Per since Tamamo first sprang into existence in Halloween 2015 and it has taken me roughly 2 years to actually get a single copy of her, with multidutinous other 5*s both Limited and regular, Rate-Up and no, coming in the interim.
EDIT: Oh, shit, finally just realised. That makes a complete Fate/Extra Reunion Tour. Some kind of weird survivalist Arts-ish thing where EMIYA has to do all the heavy lifting.
EDIT: Oh, shit, finally just realised. That makes a complete Fate/Extra Reunion Tour. Some kind of weird survivalist Arts-ish thing where EMIYA has to do all the heavy lifting.
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Scath really that much better then the others? Karna others seem like they'll be good too.
Some 4 Stars like Lancer Liz and Lancer Vlad also don't seem bad, though I'm not the best at breaking down the mechanics of this game.
I see, I had been told by others that rate up didn't increase odds that much.
If it does increase odds considerably, I still might hold for the next time Tamamo's is on rate up.
I do want a support caster, but Carmilla's the 4 Star on rate up with Tamamo for the next banner, and I'd rather not get another Carmilla. She's not bad, but I don't want a duplicate or NP3 of her, so I might wait for Valentines when its Tamamo with no 4 Star rate up as well, to increase the chance I get a new 4 Star.
Looking at the 2015 Halloween Event, it looks relatively hard.
I thought people said FGO before Solomon was 'baby easy' difficulty?
The quest Nightlong Visitors for example has 5 battle phases, most of these phases have at least 1 Servant in the battle above 100,000 HP. And a final Tamamo with around 250,000 HP.
I can beat the other quests with my Berserker Buster Chain spam, but this one my Berserkers look like they'll lose a battle of attrition. Might lose even with burning all my Command Seals and might need to use a Quartz or 2 to revive and beat that.
Am I missing something and there's some trick to make it really easy?
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Easy for people with fully levelled Servants who aren't necessarily going Zerker? In any case, Zerker spam IIRC falls off before stuff like Camelot hits and you have to at least use basic strategy.
Omegahugger
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Right now, the US Server has six 5* Servants available, with a drop rate of 1% of any one of them appearing. This gives you 0.167% chance of getting your desired 5* on any given roll, which falls drastically once more 5* start getting released.
On the other hand, if your 5* is on Rate Up (alone), you have roughly 0.7% chance of getting them on any roll. Roughly a four-fold increase of normal rates, which stays the same no matter how many Servants get released.
And, of course, if you roll for, say, Waver while an Event Servant is on Rate Up, you end up with a 0.05% chance per roll. Or lower if you're on the JP Server.
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Scathach has an NP interlude, deals extra damage to Divine or Undead enemies (the former including a large part of the Servant roster), her NP is ST and overall, is a much better boskiller.
Karna's main meme has always been Buster crit since Vasavi Shakti tickles otherwise, Lancer Artoria is AoE NP spammer which means her damage is also lackluster and Enkidu can't buster NP chain, one of his skills has a gamble factor and generally is rather underwhelming -- his NP stuns Divine enemies and applies a moderate defense down before hitting, as opposed to Scathach's guaranteed stun on GB Alternative, a skill that flat out makes her super effective against those types and her own NP steroid (and she can actually chain).
Mind, this is not to say she's a good/great unit. She's middling at best when it comes down to bosskillers -- Jack, Okita, Musashi, Kintoki, Cú Alter, Ozymandias, Jeanne Alter, etc. are all better at it than her unless the enemy's like, an Archer with Divinity if we're talking about main damage dealer backed up with proper supports.
Lancer class is just underwhelming in general when it comes to SSRs. In fact, I think say, Lancer Alter, can probably own Scathach in terms of boskilling, again, if it's not a Divine Archer.
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Crossposting this over from SB
The thing here is that Scathach has a ST NP with 1200% or 1600% quick(x0.8) for 960% and 1280% effective base dmg respectively at NP1.
Boss battles are also usually 1 of them vs your entire team, so a guaranteed stun is basically a free turn, this also means that AoEs waste like 2/3 of their potential dmg.
Also notable is that killing of Archer bosses is a higher priority than Saber ones, since they can NP far faster.
I'm not saying she is a must have, but it is really nice to have her.
IIRC the next 5* Lancer to come out for you will be Karna, who's NP is 300-500% buster NP, like nobu, and also like her is AoE, and while his overcharge is 50-100% extra dmg vs devine, he will still deal less than Shishou.
After him you'll get Brynhildr, who is the next ST lancer, but at NP1 will only do 600%Buster for effective 900% (you might notice, this is still less than shishou) with an extra dmg vs most males and a few females. This changes 18 months after that, when she gets an Interlude for 800% base at NP1 for 1200% effective.
Next is Lion King, who is again an AoE NP and just np gauge overcharge. 300% at NP1, 450%effective yadayada shishou still better bosskiller.
After her you get Tamamo no Lancer, who has basically the same NP as Bryn, exept that she doesn't have an Interlude yet and her overcharge is vs all males.
Last on the list on 5* Lancers is Enkidu, who has the usual buster ST 600% for effective 900%, but trades extra dmg vs a stun only vs devine and a Def debuff.
The only reason Shishou is atm the worst 5* Lancer over in jp? Take a look at all the NPs. They are all buster, and as such can get buffed to high heavens via Merlin.
There you have it, Merlin breaks the arts/buster/quick balance. That's the only reason Shishou isn't a must have. And he comes out like 16 months from now.
And @Breogan don't foget that besides archers she also deals the same damage vs zerkers.
The list where she owns is like:
Gil
Kidgil
Arjuna
Herc
Raikou
Kintoki
CuAlter
Euryale
Ishtar
Bolded for recurring bosses for events.
Also lots of the bosses in Archer dailys are on this list.
It's mostly that we still don't have any halfway decent quick support that makes her 'not good'.
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For me the difficulty jump was North America (the chapter of course).
Granted, I have no real patience for grinding so Ascension Materials are kinda worrying me ATM, but... in general for the early events can't you generally rely on a good support if you have a decent team to back it up?
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Thanks.
So, to be clear.
Rate up is affected by the number of other 5 Stars possible.
It isn't that it puts the rate up unit at a certain set percentage like 0.7%, it multiplies its percentage, but as a factor of other 5 Stars.
So odds would go under 0.7% as more 5 Stars got added to the game.
Fair enough with that context, though my unit distribution doesn't have much class variety beyond the 3 Star Friend Point gacha pulls and I haven't had much luck with my tries in the gacha lotto. I've mostly been getting by with a level 80 Herc, another high level support Servant, and a Servant with taunt.
I've got a 3 Star team, but they aren't Grailed or max Fou.
Not sure about how I'd go about doing that. One of the easier missions for example has a 100,000 plus HP Assassin followed by a 150,000 plus HP Caster along with various weaker mobs.
Logically it would be best to bring a Rider support, but the Assassin would probably destroy it.
Looking at how I could do it, might lead with my level 65 Hans and Medea and some other Caster to try to take down the Assassin, place the support Rider on the back line and just hope the Rider support can take out the Caster. Then maybe Herc or Cu at the very back to try for a last minute win. Though Cu without 'type advantage' probably wouldn't be a great idea. He's more tanky then Herc without the Bond CE which I'm still a long way from, but does so much less damage unless he hits the over 1 in a million (?) chance to proc his instant kill ability.
I see thanks.
Scath does sound impressive after all that, and she's also during the same rate up as Pieces of 2030 which I'm told is a very good CE.
I just feel she seems a little niche and situational despite lots of Divine class enemies.
The support Casters like Waver and Tamamo and Merlin seem more general use, and as I'm probably not going to spend any money on this game, I'd like to save my Free Quartz and Tickets building a team that can fit a variety of situations.
I don't think I'm going to feasibly get 1 of each 5 Star, or even each 4 Star anytime soon. So I want to try to make the few I do get fit most situations.
I also really like Waver and Tamamo's visual designs.
Not sure about their animations as I haven't seen much of them.
Though I have to say, Nero's got really fancy animations for a unit introduced early on in this game's life cycle. I hear when the game first came out it was uncertain if it was going to work, if it would make a profit, and lots of free Quartz was given out to attract people and keep people through server issues, and budget wasn't as much as it is now. So lots of units had similar animations, but Nero's animations at least look a little less budget, which seems surprising for a early unit. She got at least some love from the animation team. I suppose that might in part be because she got a lot of love during the Septem writers and was given a 'test drive' as a story support unit, so making her more fancy might attract more buyers who are testing her out.
I've been using a support Nero I recently found a little more just to see if different combos will proc a different animation sequence.
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Assuming only 1 5 star is on rate up it will always be 0.7%. Rate up rate doesn't change on number of servants
It is the remaining 0.3% that will get split up more and more as more servants.
In the Halloween gatcha you will have 0.7% for Tamamo. The remaining 0.3% for 5 star is divided among the 7 non rate-up 5 stars that will be available in the Halloween Gatcha. So in the Halloween gatcha you have a .04% to roll a specific non-rate up 5 star servant. That number will go down as more servants can be rolled.
The multiplier was just a way to show you how rolling on a rate up is always better for that servant than hoping they spook you at some point
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She is niche. Her niche is basically to be a boss killer that does extra damage to divine enemies. I personally don't think she's too impressive outside of her NP though, and prefer Karna because he can consistently hit like a truck and contribute to Buster Memes.