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[Exalted, ?] Most High

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You know...there being no elder gold sids in the age of sorrows might be changable if, we as a Solar, prevented the greatest disaster that struck the Fivefold Fellowship.

All it takes is someone who owes us from back then successfully laying low, or proving harder to assassinate than to convince.
 
Usernames said:
What's is the wracking anyway? Is it the great curse?
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It's something that happened to absolutely destroy the power of the Sidereals in the last iteration of the game. Elders were basically crippled shades of their former selves, and the younger ones were barred from Heaven except under escort and official business.

veekie said:
You know...there being no elder gold sids in the age of sorrows might be changable if, we as a Solar, prevented the greatest disaster that struck the Fivefold Fellowship.

All it takes is someone who owes us from back then successfully laying low, or proving harder to assassinate than to convince.
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The Wracking occured late in the Age of Sorrows, beacuse the implication is that everything was working fine for them right up until everything exploded and the Wracking was set on them, and it forced them to get desperate to maintain control, because they lost access to their most potent resources.

So yeah, no, they won't know we saved them, because it hasn't happened yet. What would happen is that whatever set it off would have never occured in this timeline, because it was headed off by the actions of Odyssial. This may or may not have involved "Odyssial was the one behind the Usurpation, and thus, the Sidereals were not censured when the Evidence regarding their involvement was revealed"
 
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Usernames said:
Yeah but what are those 3 exactly? Does Ody loves blones or what? What are the traits for Ody perfect waifu?
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Those three traits are just a few among all other traits optimized towards making Ody like her more.
What exactly these three are is ultimately unimportant, though odds are they have more to do with personality than looks, given the type of person Ody is.
 
[X] Sorcerer of the Adamant Circle

Easy choice for me. As much as I hate the Petals choice, if we're taking it giving Lea sorcery is a good idea, as it gives her more options post Usurpation to survive and not go insane(Petals only says it makes her MORE sane, not gurantee intact Sanity) and in general improves other options.
 
Alectai said sufficiently skilled sorcerers can work effects one circle beyond the one they are initiated in in 3rd Ed. Given that Odyssial will almost certainly be the most powerful sorcerer what are the chances of him reaching effects a circle beyond even the Solar one? An Odyssial Circle so to speak?
 
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Alectai said sufficiently skilled sorcerers can work effects one circle beyond the one they are initiated in in 3rd Ed. Given that Odyssial will almost certainly be the most powerful sorcerer what are the chances of him reaching effects a circle beyond even the Solar one? An Odyssial Circle so to speak?
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Impossible. The scale does not Exceed an Adamant Circle, Ambition 3 Working. Which is...

3rd Ed said:
Ambition 3 (Goal Number 75): Make subtle alterations to the metaphysics of the entire
cosmos. Create a supernatural being of a singular nature and considerable power. Cast a citysized
region into a different realm of existence, or outside of time and space altogether, with set
conditions for when it returns or how it can be accessed.
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Do note that this is Incredibly Fucking Difficult to pull off while still maintaining control of your Working. The highest level would be "Achieve 75 Net Successes on Difficulty 5 Challenges within 15 Rolls"

Not impossible, but challenging even for Odyssial's abilities, especially as there is no mechanical way to exceed 5 dots in an Attribute or Ability while you're on a human chassis (Though mastering Charms to allow you to effectively do so is a thing, and it's likely that Odyssial would have all of them.)

EDIT: I actually tried simulating it, he could pull it off within 10-12 rolls, but actually getting that many to try for it would require years of prep time and a full year actually implementing it where he wasn't doing anything else, plus materials on par with a Deathlord's corpus and another Adamant Circle Sorcerer he was willing to trust to cooperate.

In other words. Extremely Difficult, even for Odyssial! Not outside his means, but he would be somewhat pressed pulling all of those resources together.

So yeah, even for Odyssial, bullshit transcendent workings would be Challenging, so don't think that the setting supports infinite reality hax just because you chose to be an Adamant Circle Sorcerer!
 
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Well...the limit of Adamant Circle is fundamentally but subtly altering the metaphysics of Creation like the Salinan Working did(which when you consider the Sidereal interaction, is probably what happens with averting the Wracking, as a countermagic to whatever working made it possible, since that would take the same circle to counter effectively)


Pushing the limit would be like what the Primordials did to forge Creation.
 
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Ambition 3 (Goal Number 75): Make subtle alterations to the metaphysics of the entire cosmos. Create a supernatural being of a singular nature and considerable power. Cast a citysized region into a different realm of existence, or outside of time and space altogether, with set conditions for when it returns or how it can be accessed.
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I see this and wonder why we're going to all this trouble to have a sword installed in our anima when we could have an army of ten thousand fully equipped, fanatical First Age elite dragonbloods sitting in there instead just going by RAW. Plus our own custom-designed Incarna 2.0 to lead them.
 
Well, given that Coldness Odyssial considered "Make massive Alterations to the metaphysics of the entire setting" an achievable goal maybe there is an Ambition level beyond three?
 
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DarkLight140 said:
I see this and wonder why we're going to all this trouble to have a sword installed in our anima when we could have an army of ten thousand fully equipped, fanatical First Age elite dragonbloods sitting in there instead just going by RAW. Plus our own custom-designed Incarna 2.0 to lead them.
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Because these are Challenging to achieve even for a Solar of Odyssial's might, and certainly not something he could prepare off the cuff! To get a Terminus on the level where he has a reasonable expectation of pulling off an Ambition 3 Adamant Working, he'd need to develop charm suites accurately supporting his idea, have an Adamant Circle Sorcerer helping him, a sorcerous atelier unmatched in heaven and earth, possibly other related Spells that link this, and then when he has everything together, to spend a full year actually doing the work where he's not doing anything else.

These are all certainly within his power and means to achieve, but not something he could prepare off the cuff, especially as unless he was involved in it, he would certainly be caught off guard by the Usurpation!
 
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There 1-5 levels for Artifacts and there N/A.

What the difference between 5 and N/A? Is it like the difference between A rank and EX rank for the grail system?
 
Alectai said:
Because these are Challenging to achieve even for a Solar of Odyssial's might, and certainly not something he could prepare off the cuff! To get a Terminus on the level where he has a reasonable expectation of pulling off an Ambition 3 Adamant Working, he'd need to develop charm suites accurately supporting his idea, have an Adamant Circle Sorcerer helping him, a sorcerous atelier unmatched in heaven and earth, possibly other related Spells that link this, and then when he has everything together, to spend a full year actually doing the work where he's not doing anything else.

These are all certainly within his power and means to achieve, but not something he could prepare off the cuff, especially as unless he was involved in it, he would certainly be caught off guard by the Usurpation!
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This is somewhat failing to consider whatever alterations to the mechanics Ody would get through his custom E6-10 Sorcery-boosting Occult charms.

Usernames said:
There 1-5 levels for Artifacts and there N/A.

What the difference between 5 and N/A? Is it like the difference between A rank and EX rank for the grail system?
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Pretty much.
 
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