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Here is for hopefully boosting Ulyssian's tactical genius further! Bleary eyed and tired writing, so typos and/or strangely worded phrases remain a possibility even after going through it. Good night.

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The Three-Fold Doom

"Are you sure about this?"

Those words were rarely heard from Zao Feng Lung's lips, especially when laced with so much hesitation, even if only by his own standards. Ivory was also looking worried, gaze darting between Ulyssian and the order that Anys Syn had sent to seal his doom. He gathered himself, and prepared to lay out the groundwork on how they could survive this.

"Luseng, while important, is not something I would personally risk myself over if I had the choice. Not only it limits my actions from affecting strategies on larger scale by tying me up, I'm not yet strong enough to reliably, or even with good chances defeat the foes gathered there." Zao looked at him expectantly. "Then I imagine you have a reason to do it anyway, besides the obvious detriment of otherwise having to cut ties to your current identity?"

He nodded, now surer of himself. "While my relative lack of power is a problem, my chances aren't zero, and if I do manage to triumph over there, I will come out stronger, making it even harder for her to kill me, be it by an assassins blade or sending me out to yet an another doomed scenario. Not only that, but it will become increasingly harder for her to openly to move against me without seriously damaging her standing and credibility. That, and actually sending me on missions where I can actually work towards delaying the destruction of the Realm and Creation with these methods is temporarily aligned with our own goals."

"Uly, it is still too risky", Ivory said. She was slowly starting to pace around as she talked, an old habit from her past life that she had sometimes exhibited when feeling extremely worried about some of her few friends deciding to do something monumentally reckless. Which surprisingly she had only rarely displayed, then taking into consideration what kind of persons her friends were. "You don't have to choose to be Anys Syn's puppet until she manages to throw you into a situation that will mean near-certain death even to you. You have other options, other paths to advance our goals. She might also realize her folly too soon, if you survive against the things she will pit you against, and strike before you are strong enough to withstand her offensive!"

Ulyssian listened calmy, but then shook his head. "True. I could do that. But if move to other avenues of power, it will likely come to me having to conquer the Realm with the force of armies, while the Creation's enemies close in around us from all sides. By weakening ourselves with internal struggles, we might face a different kind of risk that could turn out to be even greater than just accepting the Bronze Faction's move for now." He paused. "Also, don't call me-"

"Now is not the time!" Ivory snapped, as she whirled to face him from her pacing. She looked immensely frustrated for a moment while, before slowly coming to a halt and seemingly calming down. "Fine. You are set to do what you have decided to do. I wonder why I expected anything else. So, the plan?"

Zao also inserted himself back to the conversation, having been surprisingly quite and withdrawn for his usual self during the whole exchange. "I would also like to hear how you seek to turn this assignment from death-sentence to a victory. I think you are even now overestimating your chances of coming out of this alive."

The young/ancient Solar gazed upwards to the ceiling in deep thought for a moment, before proceeding to continue from his previous point. "First of all, there are extensive records and battle reports about all the three major players and their forces, as well as about the satrapy itself, of course. I should be able to model predictions about most of the major general movements of the enemy troops at least, as well as the weather conditions and such before even arriving during my trip to there." He walked to Zao's table, and opened the detailed and moderately sized map of Luseng that had been provided along with his letter of assignment, then proceeded to spread it over the same sparse table. "The most pressing and immediately apparent problem is of course the two spotted behemoths, possibly not the only ones, who are destroying everything in their path. Straight out killing them might be impossible currently, though I will look for a chance to do so regardless, but diverting them with minimal losses is more feasible."

He next pointed out to various resource markings dotting the map. "Next, I can use Luseng's various natural riches to bolster the defenses and civil stability by streamlining production and distribution of goods and weapons with my predictionism, just like I did with the Navy. For example, more weapons made out of cold iron would be quite useful against the Fae. But the most important thing I must accomplish is shattering the non-aggression pact between the factions."

Zao frowned as he looked at the map. "It won't be easy, even with an alliance shaky as this. They know that if they start fighting between each other, their chances of winning against the might of the Realm's armies decrease greatly. Each of them will be suspicious about any acts seemingly done by the other factions if those acts would shake their alliance, even when they are looking for the signs of true betrayal at the same time. You need something more convincing than just a camp of troops slaughtered by a lone Lunar or a Deathknight in the night."

Ivory also chimed in. "Straight out maneuevering the different armies against each other will also be hard. Their leaders have them all leashed tight." Ulyssian was silent for a moment, then continued again. "What about if one of the armies was facing heavy opposition in one direction, redirecting their flow to a path of least resistance? If we channel that faction with presenting hard defenses against their direct line of advance, and softer targets leading towards the other factions promised pieces of land, we could at very least raise tensions between them. If we use that suspicion by combination with other tactics for sowing the seed of doubt..."

Zao sighted wearily. "Its still not even nearly enough, but it would buy you time to grow stronger. I will divert as many resources as I dare to supporting you. Even someone proclaiming theirself to be one of the Immaculate Dragons can't act easily and often in manner that would make others question their divinity, so I should be able to help you as long as I don't overstep certain boundaries. We can also afford it more easily, as the Navy is running more efficiently than ever thanks to you."

"'Gather enough snowflakes, and you have an avalanche'. Every bit will help towards the victory. But yes, we still need more. If we take into account the personalities of the leader's of each of the factions, we could maybe..."

And so, Ulyssian strategized to the night with his allies on how to walk into a trap meant grind even a Exalted of the Sun to bits, and rise from the challenge in one piece to face a new one that he would be thrown into, again and again until his death. Or until he would show Anys Syn why throwing the one who had once slain Titans in the Dawn of the Creation was an act most unwise.
 
You guys know that with enough combat power you can singlehandedly destroy the enemy armies, right? Exalted is a game that allows that. Plus, no complicated logistical wrangling required!

The main advantages of battle groups are that they can crush mid-tier Exalts pretty easily and that it doesn't cost a lot of motes to use them well. But as far as a fight goes, they can't do anything to an Exalt with the proper charms if he has motes to spare. It typically requires truly outrageous numbers (5000+ high-tier troops) to bring down a powerful Exalt, even with competent commanders.

That said, the mote conservation thing is a really, really, really important feature, but it's about staying power over multiple engagements, not peak combat power. And you have tools - Stealth, disguise - to help you control the duration of an engagement.
 
I see we are intent on making the same fucking mistake yet again.

No one has submitted a concrete plan on how to leverage the Satrapy into removing the problem of Anys Syn. There is a whole lot of wishful thinking about how once Ulyssian pulls off the impossible twice he'll totally have a huge loyal army and Anys Syn will sit on her ass and totally won't install Flame as Emperor. That she won't be using her assets in the Realm to destroy overt opposition and likely allies. That she won't transfer Ulyssian as soon as he is successful and disperse his "loyal" troops through the Realm and replace their commanders with Dragonblooded loyal to Flame.

No, no, we'll have all the fucking time in the world to build a faction from scratch and Anys Syn won't do a damned thing to break it up, undermine it, and render it incapable of concentration. And though she tore up the rules once she certainly won't do the same thing yet again once she has enough force to cow the Houses which certainly isn't what her plan hinges on being able to do anyway.

No, let's assume Ulyssian can beat an Elder Sidereal at her own game where she lays out the cards and has all the advantages.

Oh and whine about how building an independent superpower and throwing down the most powerful Deathlord in Creation isn't interesting or political enough.

Because right we're too busy figuring out which route we go to hash out massive strategies?

Here's the thing. Anys Syn is not omnipotent or omniscient. She does not mind-control the Houses, and this is not "She holds all the cards and has all the advantages". She's playing the "In case of apocalypse, break glass" option, that she knows full well that Chejop Kejak, the father of the Bronze Faction, would call impossibly stupid.

She's thrown away her advantages as a Sidereal, and is trying to play the Solar Game. This is her flaw.
 
Yeah, 'Hesiesh' being allowed to consolidate control over the Realm because we arrogantly assumed our rivals and enemies would sit on their asses and allow us to build up power however we wanted for as long as we needed certainly didn't wind up being a problem did it?

What this position we are in? This is to our advantage.
She is currently doing exactly what we want her to do.

Lets go over the facts, the Realm is stronger by far. Its now got some direct leadership even if the leadership is a bit hostile to us specifically. The Navy has made serious gains and has actually pushed their enemies back some. We are given the kind of position we have been hoping for. Hopeless positions that couldn't be won unless we had serious divine favor from the elemental dragons. Win here and we are hero of the realm, basically untouchable.
 
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3e supposedly improved mass combat a great deal. Did it only improve the mechanics by which exalts trivially murder mere soldiers, not the utter futility of even vast numbers of mortals standing against exalts?
 
Ahh, I don't know. I guess stacking strategic advantages against multiple hosts has more value. On the other hand, that sweet Heaven-Turning Calculations would be quite helpful both during the conflict and after it. The biggest issue with Commander is confronting the leaders with neither clear defense against their isoteric abilities, nor superior enough combat capabilities to blitz them. As I doubt the army by itself will be able to deal with them, it will likely come down to either softening them up with DB mooks, or buying time and gathering enough XP for another, more direct title.
 
Because right we're too busy figuring out which route we go to hash out massive strategies?

Here's the thing. Anys Syn is not omnipotent or omniscient. She does not mind-control the Houses, and this is not "She holds all the cards and has all the advantages". She's playing the "In case of apocalypse, break glass" option, that she knows full well that Chejop Kejak, the father of the Bronze Faction, would call impossibly stupid.

She's thrown away her advantages as a Sidereal, and is trying to play the Solar Game. This is her flaw.

This is a bunch of meaningless babble completely divorced from any real context.

Anys Syn has control over the Realm. She is in the process of executing her ultimate Win Condition. If Flame becomes Emperor backed by the Immaculate Order then removing him will be neigh-impossible without overthrowing the entire Realm. In twenty years it just becomes flat-out impossible without destroying Creation.

While Ulyssian is concentrating on surviving the death-trap assignments she chose, she will be dealing with sources of dissent in the Realm. Ulyssian does not, in fact, play the Game of Thrones terribly well. He is not heavily socially specced. He is not someone who weaves webs of influence in the shadow and makes all the great powers dance by his thread. We are playing her game, and she is better at it. She has more loyal lieutenants, more freedom to act, control over the Realm's formal institutions; and as Hesiesh her word is law. And she has Flame being prepared as the ultimate trump card, and what the fuck do you think Flame's first priority is going to be?

Oh yeah, destroying that Anathema imposter who has infiltrated into the heights of the Realm.

And of course since Syn did pull a massive escalation because of Ulyssian she's going to then ignore him because why? She's going to neglect the most elementary of precautions against Ulyssian developing a powerful base of political and military support because it would be too unfair of her to take away his loyal armies? She is trying to kill Ulyssian. She wants to use his death for the benefit of the Realm, but in the end Ulyssian dying is the point. And if he survives long enough she'll have Flame crush him with a massive display of power as the ultimate demonstrated of his worthiness to rule, for Flame saw the serpent that all others had missed. And if it contradicts the Immaculate Order's word well who the fuck cares at that point because ruling by brute force certainly works if you have enough of it and in time the contradiction can just be written out of the histories.

Going out to the Threshold to consolidate the River Province gives Ulyssian far more freedom. He isn't working through Imperial channels controlled by Anys Syn. He doesn't have to formally answer to people trying to get him killed. He doesn't have to maintain Immaculate dogma, which he needs to undermine, subvert, and ultimately destroy. He has the opportunity to make diverse allies and put together a coalition of the sort necessary to save Creation without resorting to breeding armies of superwarriors to stamp down on the human race forever. He can build his damned powerbase on a scale he never could as a Satrap, without risking Anys Syn ripping it away from him with a single missive.

But no let's keep throwing good money after bad and thinking optimistically.
 
I'm just shocked Wake the Sleeper has so few votes when it is so powerful. You can potentially get 11 Evocations out of it compared to 3 Charms from the other options. I think you currently only have eleven Evocations from Ambition, or near to it. You would double Ambition's power!

3e supposedly improved mass combat a great deal. Did it only improve the mechanics by which exalts trivially murder mere soldiers, not the utter futility of even vast numbers of mortals standing against exalts?

It's a completely different system, but Exalts are supposed to be able to slaughter armies, if they are properly invested. It's harder, but it's still very possible. That includes armies of mortals, armies of beast men, armies of demons, even armies of War gods or Exalts.
 
What this position we are in? This is to our advantage.
She is currently doing exactly what we want her to do.

Lets go over the facts, the Realm is stronger by far. Its now got some direct leadership even if the leadership is a bit hostile to us specifically. The Navy has made serious gains and has actually pushed their enemies back some. We are given the kind of position we have been hoping for. Hopeless positions that couldn't be won unless we had serious divine favor from the elemental dragons. Win here and we are hero of the realm, basically untouchable.

Anys Syn is trying to get Ulyssian killed. That is not "a bit hostile." And any belief that Ulyssian will be "untouchable" rests on Anys Syn playing by a set of rules that she's already lit on fire. History is littered with "untouchable" favorites that Kings and Emperors had murdered, anyway.
 
What we need to do is regain as many memories and personal power as we can as quickly as we can. Then we can take emergency control over the Sword of Creation.
 
I see we are intent on making the same fucking mistake yet again.
But your plan is even more optimistic, as it involves more variables. We owe a big favor to Infernals - surely no negative consequences. We come up to a bunch of Lunars - they happily come under our command. While this is all happening, Anys is certainly not advancing her plan with zero opposition. And of course suggesting that playing against Anys is suicide while advocating moving against a Deathlord.
 
Can we get a vote count? Mostly interested in the Flash-buy decision point, as Luseng vs Fade away is down to (weighted) arguments now.
 
You mean sequestering Moon somewhere where Syn can't get at her?

More like having her assigned directly to us or simply having her disappear and work for us directly? Yeah. Basically what I want to do is make sure Moon can't simply be pressured or simply taken in the dead of night. Disappear her, pearl should know the plan has moon as a major facet or at least be able to give us enough information that we can predict moon is a major facet of the sidereals plans. As in Major facet.
 
But your plan is even more optimistic, as it involves more variables. We owe a big favor to Infernals - surely no negative consequences. We come up to a bunch of Lunars - they happily come under our command. While this is all happening, Anys is certainly not advancing her plan with zero opposition. And of course suggesting that playing against Anys is suicide while advocating moving against a Deathlord.
Never fall into your enemies pace. Doing what Ayns wants will be far harder to survive and grow in than anything else. We get Lookshy on our side, we grind till we can survive taking the Sword of Creation over, and then we win.
 
Cavalier we simply don't see it as a problem. What we should be doing though is "disappearing" moon.

Which is what "fade away" does, given she'll be right next to us when we're consolidating the River Provence into our own independent power bloc so she'all be in one of the safest places in Creation

What we need to do is regain as many memories and personal power as we can as quickly as we can. Then we can take emergency control over the Sword of Creation.

We've been told that won't happen until we're around E6/E7 iirc
 
The central flaw of Syn's plans is that, no matter how high she rises or how much control she gains, her web of schemes will always have a single point of failure: the Hesiesh guise. She's not unlike us in that regard; exposure means ruin. If we can survive long enough to accumulate the power necessary to shatter that facade (via EotUCS or forcing her into battle) then all her schemes come apart at the seams. Emperor Flame's legitimacy? Gone. Suddenly, he's just another zealot with a powerful bloodline. Her power looks absolute, but you think there aren't those who are questioning? Either individuals who weren't particularly devout in the first place, or the Immaculates who wonder why Hesiesh isn't taking the field in open battle, or where in the fuck the other Elemental Dragons are? Her position appears unassailable, but this is as much an illusion as fact. There's a reason that, even at the height of their power, the Bronze Faction never pulled this stunt; it's because it's insanely reckless. She's put all her cards on the table. If we expose her, we end the Immaculate faith, or at least cripple it almost beyond recovery.

Luseng will be difficult, of that there is no doubt, but as long as Sesus Ulyssian still lives, we can make a comeback. Fade Away burns that bridge, forever. It's an entirely different series of gambits and long shots, and relies on negotiations with the Infernals and Lunars, as opposed to mere combat (which is definitely Ulyssian's strongest area), and builds on past deeds.
 
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Never fall into your enemies pace. Doing what Ayns wants will be far harder to survive and grow in than anything else. We get Lookshy on our side, we grind till we can survive taking the Sword of Creation over, and then we win.

Actually she is doing exactly what we want her to do. We are forcing her to go to our pace with this. We are in a completely hopeless position that if we win it would show severe favor of the dragons. Hero of the Realm is in our close future.
 
This is a bunch of meaningless babble completely divorced from any real context.

Anys Syn has control over the Realm. She is in the process of executing her ultimate Win Condition. If Flame becomes Emperor backed by the Immaculate Order then removing him will be neigh-impossible without overthrowing the entire Realm. In twenty years it just becomes flat-out impossible without destroying Creation.

While Ulyssian is concentrating on surviving the death-trap assignments she chose, she will be dealing with sources of dissent in the Realm. Ulyssian does not, in fact, play the Game of Thrones terribly well. He is not heavily socially specced. He is not someone who weaves webs of influence in the shadow and makes all the great powers dance by his thread. We are playing her game, and she is better at it. She has more loyal lieutenants, more freedom to act, control over the Realm's formal institutions; and as Hesiesh her word is law. And she has Flame being prepared as the ultimate trump card, and what the fuck do you think Flame's first priority is going to be?

Oh yeah, destroying that Anathema imposter who has infiltrated into the heights of the Realm.

And of course since Syn did pull a massive escalation because of Ulyssian she's going to then ignore him because why? She's going to neglect the most elementary of precautions against Ulyssian developing a powerful base of political and military support because it would be too unfair of her to take away his loyal armies? She is trying to kill Ulyssian. She wants to use his death for the benefit of the Realm, but in the end Ulyssian dying is the point. And if he survives long enough she'll have Flame crush him with a massive display of power as the ultimate demonstrated of his worthiness to rule, for Flame saw the serpent that all others had missed. And if it contradicts the Immaculate Order's word well who the fuck cares at that point because ruling by brute force certainly works if you have enough of it and in time the contradiction can just be written out of the histories.

Going out to the Threshold to consolidate the River Province gives Ulyssian far more freedom. He isn't working through Imperial channels controlled by Anys Syn. He doesn't have to formally answer to people trying to get him killed. He doesn't have to maintain Immaculate dogma, which he needs to undermine, subvert, and ultimately destroy. He has the opportunity to make diverse allies and put together a coalition of the sort necessary to save Creation without resorting to breeding armies of superwarriors to stamp down on the human race forever. He can build his damned powerbase on a scale he never could as a Satrap, without risking Anys Syn ripping it away from him with a single missive.

But no let's keep throwing good money after bad and thinking optimistically.

She cannot divert her attentions that many ways

Full, fucking, stop.

She needs to convince the Great Houses to allow an Outcaste nobody to take the throne based on her own word (That goes against Several of their old 2E Motivations, and likely several Definining Intimacies as well). She needs to toss out the odd miracle and anectdote here and there to prevent anyone from thinking "Totally an Anathema, seriously", and being Right (And some people do know full well that she's a Sidereal, they just "Don't Dare" act against her, that'll change if she pushes too far).

And she has to do this while being "In Character" as Hesiesh, who is not known for being reckless and aggressive--he's known for being a paragon of restraint among the Immaculate Dragons. This shackles her to acting with restraint without violating Immaculate dogma, and thus, being at risk of being unmasked. What she has is not literal mind control--she's just played a Scary Fucking Card and put herself on the table. Yes, she can win any given discussion thanks to Force Decision and similar Sidereal magic, but that doesn't actually change your mindset, it just means that "When you're considering multiple options, you are forced to pick one".

She's reckless, hasty, and aggressive, and unlike in the past, she doesn't have Chejop riding herd on her to keep her from going too over the top. I suspect that her being "Hesiesh" was as a lesson to her in the virtues of restraint, and as she gets more desperate, she's going to resort more and more to her natural inclination--which is "Grab the hammer and smash it".

As long as we remain on the table, and in sight, she must maintain the charade. She's forced to stay on the table to counter both ourselves and Zao, and while she's on the table, she's too busy keeping everyone wrangled and not too suspicious to do everything she wants. And she can't put Flame on the throne unless she hands him the Realm Defense Grid, or kills everyone who'll disagree (And that will blow "Hesiesh" right out of the fucking water), and in the process, she'd fuck over the Immaculate Faith forevermore.

If we disappear, she can set some balls in motion, lock the door behind us, and fade away again. You'll have to forgive me if I'm more willing to let someone reckless and desperate to make a mistake then I am to just give up and try to build something that can match the Realm from the ground up in the space of a couple years without getting caught or intercepted by one of the various apocalyi that are on the horizon.
 
The central flaw of Syn's plans is that, no matter how high she rises or how much control she gains, her web of schemes will always have a single point of failure: the Hesiesh guise. She's not unlike us in that regard; exposure means ruin. If we can survive long enough to accumulate the power necessary to shatter that facade (via EotUCS or forcing her into battle) then all her schemes come apart at the seams. Emperor Flame's legitimacy? Gone. Suddenly, he's just another zealot with a powerful bloodline. Luseng will be difficult, of that there is no doubt, but as long as Sesus Ulyssian still lives, we can make a comeback. Fade Away burns that bridge, forever.

Implying we can't just simply dramatically reveal we're alive (and imply she tried to have us killed) after bursting in on her and declaring her a fraud in front of the public/immaculate order/Houses with EotUCS
 
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