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On the one hand this is all true, on the other hand executing her gives us delicious XP for the fires of Ulyssian's personal development and doesn't have a politically connected Immaculate master with a grudge haunting our steps.
[x] Execute Her
In terms of 'people with a grudge after us' one more Immaculate master doesn't actually make much of a difference when we already have Anys Syn trying to kill us.

Further, is 50,000 XP really worth all of the good that a rising star could do? Certainly not. We can't let petty revenge get in the way of saving Creation, and we also can't think that we can do it all on our lonesome. Good as Ulyssian is, he can't be in two places at once.
 
In that case I'll just go with:
[X] Execute her
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam

How... restrained and reasonable of you. I don't think that will win, though...

I dislike executing her. Despite all the grievances we might have with the Bronze Faction, they are ultimately trying to save Creation first and foremost. Depriving Creation of another Immaculate master is not a good thing.

Sure, you might say that one Immaculate master won't make a difference, but didn't another dragonblooded, the Scarlet Empress make the difference before? This is a person specifically noted to be a rising star, and the things she could accomplish to help save Creation are many.

We're not facing pure evil here people, we're facing people who are genuinely trying to do what they believe to be the right things, and who we are at least in a very broad sense, on the same side as.

True enough, in the very broadest sense they are on 'your side,' inasmuch as they're on Creation's side, but to their eyes an Anathema is just as bad as a Deathlord or Fae, and much more immediately. Maybe she could be convinced? Unlikely though.

On the one hand this is all true, on the other hand executing her gives us delicious XP for the fires of Ulyssian's personal development and doesn't have a politically connected Immaculate master with a grudge haunting our steps.
[x] Execute Her

Granted, executing her is kind of brutal, it's clear she's lost. But you are a Sesus. On the other hand, her political connections are not likely to be worth much, compared to Syn's.

[x] Execute Her

We get XP for killing her, and it is unlikely we will ever get a use out of DBs in the immaculate order.

[x] Studying For the Naval Exam
[x] Field Trip

No need to pick intense training, our rate of improvement is already high to begin with. As much as it pains me, we should stay away from our friends - they know too much and have broke through our deception. But things are not so bad, we can go on an adventure with Perl!

Hm, are you sure? It would be wise to train as much as possible, if you're going into the field. It's the difference of almost a full Title!
 
Further, is 50,000 XP really worth all of the good that a rising star could do? Certainly not. We can't let petty revenge get in the way of saving Creation, and we also can't think that we can do it all on our lonesome. Good as Ulyssian is, he can't be in two places at once.

The main 'good' that rising star is going to do, is helping others get better at killing us, while prepping for another chance herself.
 
[X] Execute Her

[X] Tepet Number Five
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam

Yeah, she was close enough to feel our anima not giving off heat. So when they come back they'll know what to poke at.

I assume her report will be more trusted than whatever rumors come out of the academy and that anys will debrief her to find out any weaknesses to the threat to her plan. I don't want to trigger over preparation if mention of ambition jogs her memory if the same information from another source might not be given credibility.

Besides, we just killed all her friends. Leaving her alive is be like defeating flame, with her motivated to get stronger and murder us.

The perception that mercy creates doesn't seem worth it next to the trouble it could cause.

Your anima does give off heat, or at least the impression of heat. She would have had to be paying attention to the sands, or something, and saw that not even minute amounts of glass were being created. And of course, it would just be hearsay, though Immaculate hearsay.
 
True enough, in the very broadest sense they are on 'your side,' inasmuch as they're on Creation's side, but to their eyes an Anathema is just as bad as a Deathlord or Fae, and much more immediately. Maybe she could be convinced? Unlikely though.
That may be true, but again, in terms of the nastiness that Anys Syn can bring to bear against us, this single Immaculate isn't actually all that important. Somewhere else though? She could make all the difference in the world in terms of saving Creation.
The main 'good' that rising star is going to do, is helping others get better at killing us, while prepping for another chance herself.
As above- this one person is insignificant compared to the hurt that Anys Syn is trying to bring down on us, but could matter a great deal on a huge number of other fronts in terms of saving Creation. Killing her gains us very little, and lessens the defenders of Creation.
 
She could have just seen the light. You have clearly been trained extensively, which means you couldn't have Exalted so soon! Rather, you must have been Anathema FROM THE START! Though it does beg the question of why you went full anima in the middle of a stadium full of Dragon-Blooded. If you were that good, it should have been totally unnecessary to exert that much power.

Unless you were like, in love with Empty Moon and couldn't control your fury.



Avoiding death is pretty good. It's a pretty big deal. And Syn controls the Immaculate Order, as well as all its edifices of communication and ideology...

See she can just claim she lied about
renouncing her claims we are Anathema and get away with it. So that won't be a valid reason to spare her.

[X] Execute Her

[X] Tepet Number Five
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam

Yeah, she was close enough to feel our anima not giving off heat. So when they come back they'll know what to poke at.

I assume her report will be more trusted than whatever rumors come out of the academy and that anys will debrief her to find out any weaknesses to the threat to her plan. I don't want to trigger over preparation if mention of ambition jogs her memory if the same information from another source might not be given credibility.

Besides, we just killed all her friends. Leaving her alive is be like defeating flame, with her motivated to get stronger and murder us.

The perception that mercy creates doesn't seem worth it next to the trouble it could cause.

Given she's an immaculate master her word will be far more trusted then flames' which means there's going to be more poking at the fact we don't have the heat of a fire aspect's flame which we should if we're a fire aspect DB.

Zao won't be able to cover that all of the time. Especially if there smart enough to ensure he's not there when their testing out our anima and we currently have no way to fake a fire aspect's heat.

I already touched the grudge thing though it potentially being Flame 2.0 is a good point.

Yeah no mercy kill her now.
 
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Y'know in general I find myself suspicious when Rihaku is advocating a position, but damn if the weight of evidence doesn't seem to make the Red Option more reasonable. Zao's going to be unhappy regardless because of the whole killing valuable DBs thing, so we might as well go whole hog and do as the Earth Aspect wished. I change my vote to
[x] Execute her

I don't think I'm normally one for the BRUTAL options, but in this instance She Knows Too Much. Part of why I went for the fight was the proof against Immaculate shenanigans for several months, but if we spare her... we don't get that!
 
As above- this one person is insignificant compared to the hurt that Anys Syn is trying to bring down on us, but could matter a great deal on a huge number of other fronts in terms of saving Creation. Killing her gains us very little, and lessens the defenders of Creation.

She's fought us, she knows something of our style, leaving her alive means we did not fulfill the terms of our agreement. If you accept the premise that Ulyssian is a significant factor in saving creation then yes the damage she can do is significant, though likely not crippling. So I would say the hindrance to Ulyssian she provides by existing is almost certainly more than the benefit to Creation she would provide facing other threats (which I find rather unlikely she'll be facing anyway, more probable they'll keep her on the Anti-Ulyssian task force.).
 
[X] Execute Her

She's a pawn to Anys, but she's still a piece on the board, and this little fiasco hasn't actually convinced Syryns that we aren't Anathema. If anything, she just thinks we're more dangerous. She was also in a position to see the weakness of our anima banner, and is clever enough to possibly devise a test in the future to exploit that. Better that she die now, and give us experience, than survive to generate problems requiring experience to solve.

[X] Studying For the Naval Exam

We've never yet graduated from the Academy, and I'd really like to do so; how will it look, if Zao's student doesn't beat the exams as badly as he did his Immaculate accusers?

[X] Tepet Number Five

Because it's fun. We spend time with Moon, Nilul, and Saery. In the event that Cynis legbreakers do make an appearance, someone needs to be around to break their legs! Moon could probably do it, but what the hell, it sounds interesting.
 
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[X] Execute Her

Let's break this down into points, shall we?
A: This fight was scheduled to be as unfair a fight as possible. They weren't aming for a fair fight, their goal was to set up a hopeless situation that we'd die. No mercy ever inteded from the beginning, rather a straight up excecution under the guise of a fight.

B: The words of the fight stipulated this was a duel to the Death. I don't for a second doubt they'd try to weasel their way out of this on technicality.

C: She's just as willing to kill us even if we do spare her. We've killed the closest companions she's had for decades. Do you really think sparing her will really make her grateful to us? At this point death would be a mercy.
 
She's fought us, she knows something of our style, leaving her alive means we did not fulfill the terms of our agreement. If you accept the premise that Ulyssian is a significant factor in saving creation then yes the damage she can do is significant, though likely not crippling. So I would say the hindrance to Ulyssian she provides by existing is almost certainly more than the benefit to Creation she would provide facing other threats (which I find rather unlikely she'll be facing anyway, more probable they'll keep her on the Anti-Ulyssian task force.).
She doesn't know anything about us that Anys Syn wouldn't know by having someone else watching the fight- which she would have done because she's not an idiot. Again, any hindrance that she can provide to us is rendered utterly trivial by the fact that Anys Syn already has it out for us.

She can however make a huge difference in other areas in terms of saving Creation.
 
She doesn't know anything about us that Anys Syn wouldn't know by having someone else watching the fight- which she would have done because she's not an idiot. Again, any hindrance that she can provide to us is rendered utterly trivial by the fact that Anys Syn already has it out for us.

She can however make a huge difference in other areas in terms of saving Creation.

No she can't, a huge difference? This is a complete exaggeration. No it's not rendered trivial, because Anys needs frontmen to do stuff for her, which she is ideally placed to be considering the situation.
 
I don't think I'm normally one for the BRUTAL options, but in this instance She Knows Too Much. Part of why I went for the fight was the proof against Immaculate shenanigans for several months, but if we spare her... we don't get that!

That is true we don't the full benefits of months of less Immaculate scrunity if we leave her alive and she keeps trying to work against us. A major reason we went with this option instead others was so we could get less scrunity.

As for the whole "defenders of Creation" argument it falls flat on two things.

1) those same defenders want to protect Crestion against us so if we ever reveal ourselves we'll have to kill those very defenders to protect ourselves like we just did.

2) If we really cared about the difference a Shikari could make then we wouldn't have slaughtered 4 others beforehand.
 
Besides, we just killed all her friends. Leaving her alive is like defeating flame, with her motivated to get stronger and murder us.

The perception that mercy creates doesn't seem worth it next to the trouble it could cause.

WHY? We passed her stupid test AND we're going to get so much more powerful than her its not even funny, besides Rihaku has hinted that the consequences of sparing can be good instead of bad if we notice Saery being concerned about her (since her brother is a member of the abbey she's the Abbess of). Plus it could give us points with Saery which I'm sure certain players who are Saery fans coughGuilecough might like
 
Believe it! I mean, there are potentially good consequences from sparing her, if Ulyssian noticed that Saery seemed to be worried for the Water Caste...
That was certainly the first benefit that came to my mind. A tiger that can sheathe its claws is somewhat less terrifying.

Oh shit OH SHIT

SHE PROBABLY DID NOTICE OUR ANIMA DIDN't GIVE OFF HEAT.
It does give off "heat", it just doesn't actually burn anything. She may or may not have noticed this. Flame theoretically could have too, though I doubt it.

A detailed analysis of the battlefield could also reveal this, at least until it is thoroughly cleaned.
 
WHY? We passed her stupid test AND we're going to get so much more powerful than her its not even funny, besides Rihaku has hinted that the consequences of sparing can be good instead of bad if we notice Saery being concerned about her (since her brother is a member of the abbey she's the Abbess of). Plus it could give us points with Saery which I'm sure certain players who are Saery fans coughGuilecough might like

We passed no test if we leave her alive, why do people keep ignoring this?
 
She doesn't know anything about us that Anys Syn wouldn't know by having someone else watching the fight- which she would have done because she's not an idiot. Again, any hindrance that she can provide to us is rendered utterly trivial by the fact that Anys Syn already has it out for us.
Recall that Ulyssian does not actually know Syn's name at this point, only that the Bronze Faction as a whole isn't likely to take his subversion of Ivory well. The Immaculates were supposed to be an invincible death squad, so other measures beyond that are redundant, and none of the observers were in a position close enough to really follow the fight that closely. Syryns was both at ground zero and has the situational awareness to pick up on these kind of things, as well as the disposition to make inconvenient facts come back to haunt us.
 
Awesome update is awesome.

Hard votes is hard.

To kill or not to kill, that is the question : on one hand, I highly doubt someone who just lived through such a slaughter would feel anything but a desire of revenge toward whoever was its cause, even if she was in the end, one of the instigator of the whole thing. I don't expect any kind of reasonable attitude from this front. And that's without taking into account Anys Syn. With her behind the curtain, this woman is more a liability than an asset for Creation, at least the one we want to save.

On the other hand, we've yet to put a dent in the actual enemies of Creation while we've just killed a certain number of its currents defenders, however horrible they are. The connection with Saery is probably not trivial either. It hints at least at the fact, despite her participation in this barely veiled execution attempt, she could be a-I'm surprised to say that-somewhat reasonable Immaculate. Beside despite what I've said, a veteran such as her, could actually be able to go past what's just happened.

Edit: that bears repeating, this update was awesome. Can you be more awesome Rihaku ? Never mind I know you can ^^
 
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We passed no test if we leave her alive, why do people keep ignoring this?

Yes we DID we just decided not to kill her and we're stronger than her so what we say goes (besides we PROVED we're not a newborn anathema simply because we COULD beat them) and we can also humiliate her and the Immaculate Order by giving a big speech about how "see they were obviously WRONG about me" and lacing it with quotes of the Immaculate scripture and Sesus code phrases showing we could ALL have avoided this if they hadn't been so bloodthirsty and done an alternate test.
 
The Reaping, Vote Update
The Realm! The political Omphalos of Creation. Will you guide it to victory, or shatter it in ruins?

Hm, it looks like most people aren't voting for Intensive Training, so let's talk about Titles! You could pick up Better Listener, which contributes somewhat to combat as well as utility, but there are many other options that would be quite relevant...

[ ] Fortune-Stealing Palms (200,000 Normal XP) - The ultimate thief learns to acquire not merely material possessions, but the flow of the world itself! Somehow, he always finds a way. Useful inside the casino, and out!

*Ulyssian can manifest supernatural excellence without effort, several times per day, in the field of surreptitious activities. This is extremely useful when one is attempting to avoid flaring anima.
*Ulyssian improves his powers of perception, allowing him to cold-heartedly evaluate his enemies. He can learn whether they believe their chances to be good, great, or poor. Works for games of chance as well as strategy.
*Ulyssian can cheat effortlessly at cards or dice, so swift are his hands. Put it all on red, and make sure it spins to red! Only the very most powerful of supernatural detection can catch him, the first few times in a scene he does this. Also allows him to slip poison into any food or beverage undetected.
*Ulyssian's plans are so comprehensive and cunning that it appears he steals fate itself. Once per day, he may dramatically improve his odds at any one action, as he finds a way. This may be re-purchased at Essence 4 to grant truly ludicrous competence, once per day.

[ ] Growing Ambition (200,000 Solar XP) - A powerful set-up for future development, granting you access to one Essence 4 Charm in a later month. Good for lots of edge cases in combat, as well, rounding you out as a person fighter.

*Flash of Steel, Flawless Mirror Shield, Saber Mirror Shield, The King Stands Against, Beyond Perfection Ascendancy
*This gets you access to Beyond Perfection Ascendancy, which allows you to learn Essence 4 Charms. It's really, really good.
*You also become much better against multiple foes (Saber Mirror Shield), ranged foes (Flash of Steel), foes, like Sidereals, with Unblockable attacks (Flawless Mirror Shield), and extremely powerful foes (The King Stands Against).

[ ] Better Listener (160,000 Normal XP) - Long millennia ago, on the advice of his Lunar Mate, Odyssial became a better listener.

*The keenness of his hearing and touch increase dramatically, allowing him to feel the vibrations from a insect's tread, or listen to conversations insulated by solid stone.
*His powers of sight are improved as well, giving him superlative vision under all circumstances. He can make out details through a blindfold, or read a letter through a window from three rooftops away.
*His heightened senses allow him supreme readiness for battle. With a modest exertion of power and will, he can leap into the fray with uncanny speed, seizing the momentum of the fight and significantly increasing his ability to spot hidden enemies.
*At Essence 3, his comprehension of physical vibrations is unmatched; he can feel the movements of individual formations through the ground of the battlefield, comprehend the utmost whispered discussions of enemy generals leagues away in their tents, or stalk a trackless foe by the miniscule vibrations of steps left hours ago. A one-man intelligence operation, he can ferret out secrets from a room hours after they were spoken, or monitor the entire guard detail of a fortress by crawling along its walls.
*All effects occur in a manner that avoids overwhelming Odyssial.
 
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