Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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Ah, but it is thanks to the human instinct of curiousity that we may all communicate with one another using our magic glowing picture boxes!
[Exalted, ?] Most High
- Thread starter Rihaku
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- exalted (white wolf)
Ah, but it is thanks to the human instinct of curiousity that we may all communicate with one another using our magic glowing picture boxes!
[X] Execute Her - Beware you who sow the wind... They started it. Now you will finish it. They came here, defying the Admiral, with full intent to kill you. Likely she believes you still to be Anathema. This will not change that belief. She is the tool of the Bronze Faction. Now they have one less tool. [50,000 XP]
She and her brotherhood accepted their fate when they challenged Zao's heir. Perhaps confidence or the guidance of their masters misled them, but they were not in the right, and they were not the stronger.
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam - You must pick this option at least two times in the months to come, if you want to pass. You must pick it at least five times if you want to pass with flying colors. Passing with flying colors will make placement easier, if you intend to go into the Navy.
This is technically why we're at the academy, and I want to see Sail! We've gone to the naval academy three times in this quest's genealogy, and not once have we graduated.
[X] Field Trip - Ivory will be dispatched this month to investigate a port of moderate interest; Pearl asks if you'd like to come along. It'd be a valuable opportunity to get some field experience, though you two will be alone and with minimal support if anything goes wrong. Pearl is very capable of extracting herself, but has no power to help others do so.
I'm comfortable accruing a level of stress here, and I expect we'll gain at least one per month. Odds are we'll see some effect of limit, but unless we go find Lea, we won't have better supervision for such an event anywhere in Creation.
Edit: Switching votes to Field Trip since Pipeman made good arguments, and it was my next preference anyway.
She and her brotherhood accepted their fate when they challenged Zao's heir. Perhaps confidence or the guidance of their masters misled them, but they were not in the right, and they were not the stronger.
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam - You must pick this option at least two times in the months to come, if you want to pass. You must pick it at least five times if you want to pass with flying colors. Passing with flying colors will make placement easier, if you intend to go into the Navy.
This is technically why we're at the academy, and I want to see Sail! We've gone to the naval academy three times in this quest's genealogy, and not once have we graduated.
[X] Field Trip - Ivory will be dispatched this month to investigate a port of moderate interest; Pearl asks if you'd like to come along. It'd be a valuable opportunity to get some field experience, though you two will be alone and with minimal support if anything goes wrong. Pearl is very capable of extracting herself, but has no power to help others do so.
I'm comfortable accruing a level of stress here, and I expect we'll gain at least one per month. Odds are we'll see some effect of limit, but unless we go find Lea, we won't have better supervision for such an event anywhere in Creation.
Edit: Switching votes to Field Trip since Pipeman made good arguments, and it was my next preference anyway.
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[X] Execute her
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam
[X] Field Trip
Guys, going on this trip with our friends is all kinds of suspicious on top of likely to piss off House Sesus even more.
We ostensibly lied to all of them and were outright told to freaking stay away for a while.
So let's actually do that for at least a single month.
Moon is obviously too bad an actor to pull this off when Uly is actually present (and so is Uly for that amtter), so how about we just don't put her shitty acting skills to the test until we actually have let enough time pass that we can reasonably justify some sort of reconciliation?
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam
[X] Field Trip
Guys, going on this trip with our friends is all kinds of suspicious on top of likely to piss off House Sesus even more.
We ostensibly lied to all of them and were outright told to freaking stay away for a while.
So let's actually do that for at least a single month.
Moon is obviously too bad an actor to pull this off when Uly is actually present (and so is Uly for that amtter), so how about we just don't put her shitty acting skills to the test until we actually have let enough time pass that we can reasonably justify some sort of reconciliation?
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- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
Nope Cynis are already infiltrating and likely controlling Sesus with their spies so fucking them over is actually HELPING our family duh
"An Anathema showing mercy? Clearly this is some vile plan! It is clearly more dangerous then we though so lets send a larger Wyld Hunt then we planned, cleanly those without our purity has been drawn into this mad and vile plan of the Anathema so expect everyone close to it to be brainwashed."
Showing mercy to religious fanatics is silly lets not go there.
Showing mercy to religious fanatics is silly lets not go there.
Rihaku
The Internet
You will be more powerful for the events that occur during these months. You might even be able to intervene in events that grant plot XP!
Oh, I will note that Tepet Number Five gives you money, and Field Trip gives you potential Plot Xp.
Yes, Blood for the Blood god!
Maybe, maybe not. You could just as easily further alienate them, despite your strength. Cynis all but controls Sesus, after all...
No guarantee, sure, but Mnemon's not remotely close to here.
No, if he's publicly asked, of course he'll have to spare her. She's a DB, not a mortal or something. She's an Immaculate Monk!
Indeed, that could be ~highly~ problematic. You trying to social against Nilul is like... her trying to fight you.
But you don't need more enemies, you have plenty of those! Creation has enough misdirected animosity as it is.
Mmm, Anathema are not stereotyped as acting like ruthless monsters; they can act like anything, and it'll all redound to their evil, all-spanning manipulation plot. Mercy, savage fury, kindness, political acumen - anything can be justified as Anathema. It's an extremely convenient viewpoint for them.
Possible. At least, someone will notice that your anima doesn't actually burn anything. I wonder who might have noticed that...
That is definitely not true. Especially with write-ins and stunts, there are unambiguously profitable choices for you!
Indeed!
Dat XP. I'm all about dat XP.
Yes, this is a very real concern for Tepet Number Five. Ivory's mission is probably slightly more dangerous, though. Potentially much more dangerous.
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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Actually, apparently write-ins, stunts, and Omakes can mitigate stress somewhat so if we're careful not to go FULL STRESS ALL HEARTLESS ALL THE TIME we might actually manage alright.
Pushing the Immaculates into public and blatant ruleslawyering is useful in that weakening Immaculate legitimacy is a good way of strengthening ours.
If you want people to follow us rather than trying to do absolutely everything personally, we need that.
[X] You've Made Your Point - Four Dragons died today who could have protected the Realm. Let it end at four. [Unknown effects, possibly negative effects]
[X] Tepet Number Five - Nilul has devised a scheme to cheat the Cynis casino on nearby Shimmering Opal island. She is attempting to recruit co-conspirators. Moon has already reluctantly agreed, as she owes Nilul too many favors, and you think Saery is going as well. She needs two more, and would like you to be one of them.
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam - You must pick this option at least two times in the months to come, if you want to pass. You must pick it at least five times if you want to pass with flying colors. Passing with flying colors will make placement easier, if you intend to go into the Navy.
[X] Tepet Number Five - Nilul has devised a scheme to cheat the Cynis casino on nearby Shimmering Opal island. She is attempting to recruit co-conspirators. Moon has already reluctantly agreed, as she owes Nilul too many favors, and you think Saery is going as well. She needs two more, and would like you to be one of them.
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam - You must pick this option at least two times in the months to come, if you want to pass. You must pick it at least five times if you want to pass with flying colors. Passing with flying colors will make placement easier, if you intend to go into the Navy.
Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
SirLagginton
Shadow Cabal Caerbannog Bun-Bun
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- Arrrghhh
[X] Execute her
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam
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[x] Execute Her - Beware you who sow the wind... They started it. Now you will finish it. They came here, defying the Admiral, with full intent to kill you. Likely she believes you still to be Anathema. This will not change that belief. She is the tool of the Bronze Faction. Now they have one less tool. [50,000 XP]
Letting her live would just add another person with vendetta against Ulyssian, and they were the one to set the term. Beside, we already murdered 4 monks, what is another? We need to build up EXP if we were to utilize the next few months nicely anyway.
I do wonder of how this all would come down on Flame, I'd imagine this takes off his support off the Immaculates for causing them to lose 5 monks, and Zao wouldn't exactly be happy about his whistleblowing, especially after what he planned to do to his daughter. Would Zao just expel his ass at this point?
Letting her live would just add another person with vendetta against Ulyssian, and they were the one to set the term. Beside, we already murdered 4 monks, what is another? We need to build up EXP if we were to utilize the next few months nicely anyway.
I do wonder of how this all would come down on Flame, I'd imagine this takes off his support off the Immaculates for causing them to lose 5 monks, and Zao wouldn't exactly be happy about his whistleblowing, especially after what he planned to do to his daughter. Would Zao just expel his ass at this point?
Dream Logic
An offseason swallow
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[X] You've Made Your Point - Four Dragons died today who could have protected the Realm. Let it end at four. [Unknown effects, possibly negative effects]
I don't suppose there's any rules lawyering for a 'symbolic' death is there? Like her renouncing name, title, house that sort of thing. She's lost her sworn brotherhood and lost to a probable anathema so it's not like she has any prospects even if she's spared.
The reasoning is that we play the crowd, we show mercy and knowledge of the faith by drawing on something pretty obscure and probably say some stuff about how she can give her life in service of the realm still.
that make sense?
I don't suppose there's any rules lawyering for a 'symbolic' death is there? Like her renouncing name, title, house that sort of thing. She's lost her sworn brotherhood and lost to a probable anathema so it's not like she has any prospects even if she's spared.
The reasoning is that we play the crowd, we show mercy and knowledge of the faith by drawing on something pretty obscure and probably say some stuff about how she can give her life in service of the realm still.
that make sense?
Rihaku
The Internet
Yes! But don't get cocky. You did get pretty lucky this time, especially against the Earth Aspect.
Zao could potentially interrogate her about Anys' plans, though who knows how much she knows...
Curiosity, as well as prudence, and reason, and foresight... Plus, humanity can often survive when one curious guy dies!
You're a terrible student!
Not if you Limit Break while you're away from Zao or Ivory! Though I don't know if Ivory can actually stop you, a couple of months from now...
Now you know the pain of herding nuclear powered cats!
Nope Cynis are already infiltrating and likely controlling Sesus with their spies so fucking them over is actually HELPING our family duh
Of course! Good plan, good plan.
"An Anathema showing mercy? Clearly this is some vile plan! It is clearly more dangerous then we though so lets send a larger Wyld Hunt then we planned, cleanly those without our purity has been drawn into this mad and vile plan of the Anathema so expect everyone close to it to be brainwashed."
Showing mercy to religious fanatics is silly lets not go there.
Sounds more or less correct.
Are you implying that a righteous and good member of the immaculate order would fall so low as to lie in matters of honor just to protect their own lives?
This is not just any random combat, it's a matter of honor. If she recants her words, she's admitting to being a honor-less cur that just came over to execute Ulyssian at someone else's orders and thus all her accusations, both the ones she made before and the ones she makes while recanting her words, are not to be given any real weight.
I mean, she's not some young decadent Dynast, she's an Immaculate Master, disciplined, proper and brave. As far as her image is concerned, duty and honor are far more important than her own life (not that she'd be gratuitously throwing it away of course). As such, "I just said that to avoid being killed" is hardly an excuse, specially when a duel of honor is concerned.
Of course, that's all unless I'm very much mistaken about certain aspects of the culture of the Realm and the Immaculate Order.
Rihaku
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To some degree, yeah.
But you're so good at doing everything personally...
He's got the full support of Anys Syn, the most influential person in the Realm, so don't expect too much to affect Flame politically. She will act as his ablative shield, as Zao is yours. Only she's stronger than Zao.
Hm... an interesting prospect, but I don't think such a thing actually exists in the Realm, especially not for DBs of good standing that are Immaculate Monks.
See? Sparing her isn't going to necessarily win us points among the DB. In fact it could be potentially twisted to make things look worse for us.
Also do you guys really want to leave a dragon blood Shikari who is a pawn of the Bronze Faction, still and likely always will believe we are Anathema, who just watched her entire Brotherhood get slaughtered by us, and now knows a bit of our combat style alive?
Bitch will be training to get vengeance and be able to report on our fighting style to let the Bronze better plan how to attack us best.
Seriously people there is a reason Rihaku said this could have negative affects on us and after this bullshit we do not bed to potentially make things worse for ourselves.
Just kill her to show what happens when you insult our master. They were the ones who issued the challenge. They knew what they were getting into.
I can't believe so many people want to spare an enemy combatant who we can't turn to our side and came specially to execute us with overwhelming force and we have been warned that sparing her could be bad for her.
[x] Execute Her
[x] Studying For the Naval Exam
[x] Field Trip
We get XP for killing her, and it is unlikely we will ever get a use out of DBs in the immaculate order.
No need to pick intense training, our rate of improvement is already high to begin with. As much as it pains me, we should stay away from our friends - they know too much and have broke through our deception. But things are not so bad, we can go on an adventure with Perl!
[x] Studying For the Naval Exam
[x] Field Trip
We get XP for killing her, and it is unlikely we will ever get a use out of DBs in the immaculate order.
No need to pick intense training, our rate of improvement is already high to begin with. As much as it pains me, we should stay away from our friends - they know too much and have broke through our deception. But things are not so bad, we can go on an adventure with Perl!
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Lexica
Persevere
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I dislike executing her. Despite all the grievances we might have with the Bronze Faction, they are ultimately trying to save Creation first and foremost. Depriving Creation of another Immaculate master is not a good thing.
Sure, you might say that one Immaculate master won't make a difference, but didn't another dragonblooded, the Scarlet Empress make the difference before? This is a person specifically noted to be a rising star, and the things she could accomplish to help save Creation are many.
We're not facing pure evil here people, we're facing people who are genuinely trying to do what they believe to be the right things, and who we are at least in a very broad sense, on the same side as.
Sure, you might say that one Immaculate master won't make a difference, but didn't another dragonblooded, the Scarlet Empress make the difference before? This is a person specifically noted to be a rising star, and the things she could accomplish to help save Creation are many.
We're not facing pure evil here people, we're facing people who are genuinely trying to do what they believe to be the right things, and who we are at least in a very broad sense, on the same side as.
In that case I'll just go with:
[X] Execute her
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam
Rihaku
The Internet
Are you implying that a righteous and good member of the immaculate order would fall so low as to lie in matters of honor just to protect their own lives?
Yup.
She could have just seen the light. You have clearly been trained extensively, which means you couldn't have Exalted so soon! Rather, you must have been Anathema FROM THE START! Though it does beg the question of why you went full anima in the middle of a stadium full of Dragon-Blooded. If you were that good, it should have been totally unnecessary to exert that much power.
Unless you were like, in love with Empty Moon and couldn't control your fury.
Avoiding death is pretty good. It's a pretty big deal. And Syn controls the Immaculate Order, as well as all its edifices of communication and ideology...
Believe it! I mean, there are potentially good consequences from sparing her, if Ulyssian noticed that Saery seemed to be worried for the Water Caste...
Da Boyz
The Cutest Apocalypse.
On the one hand this is all true, on the other hand executing her gives us delicious XP for the fires of Ulyssian's personal development and doesn't have a politically connected Immaculate master with a grudge haunting our steps.
[x] Execute Her
Are you implying that a righteous and good member of the immaculate order would fall so low as to lie in matters of honor just to protect their own lives?
This is not just any random combat, it's a matter of honor. If she recants her words, she's admitting to being a honor-less cur that just came over to execute Ulyssian at someone else's orders and thus all her accusations, both the ones she made before and the ones she makes while recanting her words, are not to be given any real weight.
I mean, she's not some young decadent Dynast, she's an Immaculate Master, disciplined, proper and brave. As far as her image is concerned, duty and honor are far more important than her own life (not that she'd be gratuitously throwing it away of course). As such, "I just said that to avoid being killed" is hardly an excuse, specially when a duel of honor is concerned.
Of course, that's all unless I'm very much mistaken about certain aspects of the culture of the Realm and the Immaculate Order.
You fully realize that as an immaculate Master who has killed Anathema before, shares the belief that Anathema will do and say anything that the order has, tied to kill us because she thinks we're Anathema she is more likely to spit in our face and say she'd rather die then renounce her claims.
Especially since she both still believes we're an Anathema and we just killed her entire brotherhood who she knew for decades in front of her. She probably views renouncing her claims as spitting on both the order and the lives of her comrades who we litterally just killed right before her very eyes.
dragon
Ancalagon the Black
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- The Skies of Arda
[X] Execute Her
[X] Field Trip
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam
Yeah, she was close enough to feel our anima not giving off heat. So when they come back they'll know what to poke at.
I assume her report will be more trusted than whatever rumors come out of the academy and that anys will debrief her to find out any weaknesses to the threat to her plan. I don't want to trigger over preparation if mention of ambition jogs her memory if the same information from another source might not be given credibility.
Besides, we just killed all her friends. Leaving her alive is like defeating flame, with her motivated to get stronger and murder us.
The perception that mercy creates doesn't seem worth it next to the trouble it could cause.
[X] Field Trip
[X] Studying For the Naval Exam
Yeah, she was close enough to feel our anima not giving off heat. So when they come back they'll know what to poke at.
I assume her report will be more trusted than whatever rumors come out of the academy and that anys will debrief her to find out any weaknesses to the threat to her plan. I don't want to trigger over preparation if mention of ambition jogs her memory if the same information from another source might not be given credibility.
Besides, we just killed all her friends. Leaving her alive is like defeating flame, with her motivated to get stronger and murder us.
The perception that mercy creates doesn't seem worth it next to the trouble it could cause.
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The reason that the Immaculates throw down so hard against this plan is because it works.
Don't forget that.
On the Tepet Number Five front - we could just leave all our (non-Moon) friends on their own to come to their own conclusions about what we are and what we're doing, yes. I don't call that a good idea, not without someone with an actual incentive to cover for us, and we're already pushing Nilul's favor with what we've done so far. And if we want to socialize with our friends without doing anything to pay Nilul back, well...