[X] Go to space part of the quest
Echoes of Creation (30k/Exalted)
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In regard to planetary development, there is not that much left to do, and it would be more fine-tuning than anything else.
One is not comfortable gambling with the clock. As was explicitly noted, the circle can spend all their time building Colchis further into the most beautiful planet possible, but it will not make one whit of a difference if the Emperor arrives before Colchis' interstellar state is solidified.
One is not comfortable gambling with the clock. As was explicitly noted, the circle can spend all their time building Colchis further into the most beautiful planet possible, but it will not make one whit of a difference if the Emperor arrives before Colchis' interstellar state is solidified.
[X] Go to space part of the quest
Yzarc
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The original ring of iron took centuries to build. No comment on how much time to rebuild it has been reduced by as Fan does not know.
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yup, the build time of Iron Ring will probably be partially based on our rolls so who knows given that it was possible to do it with 2 right 95+ rolls, I would say maybe 2-3 years with average rolls
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That works for me.
It's too great a boon to abandon, If we stick to improving the planet more we could probably quickly fix 1 space ship for exploration no? Sending Lorgar out to diplo independent worlds into joining us lol. & Maybe finding other primarchs.
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[X] Go to space part of the quest
SEND US TO SPACE ALREADY! I WANNA PLAY BLACKJACKS WITH XENOS, STEAL DAOT DOOMSDAY WEAPONS AND GET OUR OWN MECHANICUS BEFORE BIG E STOLE THEM FROM US!
SEND US TO SPACE ALREADY! I WANNA PLAY BLACKJACKS WITH XENOS, STEAL DAOT DOOMSDAY WEAPONS AND GET OUR OWN MECHANICUS BEFORE BIG E STOLE THEM FROM US!
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As a further incentive, finding and restoring Dark Age technology and the Men of Stone can now only be accomplished beyond Colchis. If such is achieved, Colchis would be enhanced even further.
There is only so much that can be done alone by one planet. By starting the interstellar phase, meeting and hopefully befriending others, the potential fruits for such cooperation would be immense.
There is only so much that can be done alone by one planet. By starting the interstellar phase, meeting and hopefully befriending others, the potential fruits for such cooperation would be immense.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Just keep in mind that you are making a ring of iron on a planet that is 4 times the size of mars. So getting it up early is technically possible, it may not be feasable.
You have the resources but will need to build up the infrastructure and there will be many practical constraints that you cannot magic away.
You also have very limited AP and need to give up stuff on the ground if you want the ring up in time as you need to carefully plan it out.
Setting up/making something similar to the realms of ultramar will also need to be done before Big E arrives. Same with getting a fleet of ships up as you need dockyards to build/repair ships, so setting up the ring first before you can visit other solar systems.
That is what I mean by racing the clock. You have 10 to 15 years or 20 to 30 turns to try and accomplidh all that.
I will not punish you but nor will I hold your hands, especially with poor rolls. So while possible, things can result in complications and you may have to give up stuff.
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As said, if the Emperor had not reduced the timetable so drastically, one might have been willing to further develop the planet.
There is not enough time, certainly not enough AP.
It is unfortunate that the demesne would be rendered essentially useless, but sacrifices cannot always be avoided. In this case, one would consider it a worthy sacrifice.
Even if the Ring of Iron is swiftly restored with this option, as just stated, there is the matter of preparing the fleet of ships, then creating an interstellar realm akin to Ultramar.
It will all require precious time and AP.
The Ring of Iron and the vast interstellar realm are crucial. The more leverage and bargaining chips that Fan Morgal and Lorgar can procure, the better a deal that they can secure from the Emperor, squeezing the Emperor as much as possible.
There is not enough time, certainly not enough AP.
It is unfortunate that the demesne would be rendered essentially useless, but sacrifices cannot always be avoided. In this case, one would consider it a worthy sacrifice.
Even if the Ring of Iron is swiftly restored with this option, as just stated, there is the matter of preparing the fleet of ships, then creating an interstellar realm akin to Ultramar.
It will all require precious time and AP.
The Ring of Iron and the vast interstellar realm are crucial. The more leverage and bargaining chips that Fan Morgal and Lorgar can procure, the better a deal that they can secure from the Emperor, squeezing the Emperor as much as possible.
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I'm willing to risk it, but it's good that it's possibly 15 years as well.
Could we just build 1 warp capable ship in the meantime to explore with?
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
You need a big ship if you want to do a warp jump safely i.e gellar field.
But even smaller ships need an orbital shipyard. But the main problem is, say you do get a small warp ship, what then? Space in 40k is dangerous.
Pirates are the least of your concern and you need to be an intersteller polity before any one takes you seriously on the Macro stage, Primarch or not.
say thats if only fan puts AP into it correct? lorgar and thalassa also can help out correct?
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Cant comment on this as Fan does not know.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Also note that the Ring is a quest, a Major quest, not an action.
You need to take multiple actiond to get ghe complete the ring action like the other Major quests. The rules are in the end of turn pages.
MAIN QUESTS
Main quests are things that are important and to be completed. They are long term quests and will take multiple projects and a lot of turns to complete.
You need to take multiple actiond to get ghe complete the ring action like the other Major quests. The rules are in the end of turn pages.
MAIN QUESTS
Main quests are things that are important and to be completed. They are long term quests and will take multiple projects and a lot of turns to complete.
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[X] Go to space part of the quest
Perfection is the bane of progress. It would be good to try and recover/develop as much DAOT tech, most importantly Men of Stone, as possible. And that is no longer doable by remaining on the planet.
Staying and developing is all well and good, but with the shortened timeline there isn't a guarantee to complete in time. Leaving now gives us the opportunity to gain more while also not having all of the eggs in one basket, and give us the ability to use what we have more effectively on a broad scale.
Perfection is the bane of progress. It would be good to try and recover/develop as much DAOT tech, most importantly Men of Stone, as possible. And that is no longer doable by remaining on the planet.
Staying and developing is all well and good, but with the shortened timeline there isn't a guarantee to complete in time. Leaving now gives us the opportunity to gain more while also not having all of the eggs in one basket, and give us the ability to use what we have more effectively on a broad scale.
A point that needs to be made about space is that this is our best chance to get to other primarchs before the Emperor, and I do not just mean ones that would be natural allies. We could for instance save Angron from the Nails, that would make an ally of what would otherwise almost be guaranteed an enemy. Same for many of the other primarchs who are not hurtling though the warp. Not to say I think we can just grab all of them, but even one any one would be a game changer as a circle mate. Celestial grade allies do not grow on trees, much less ones with built in armies.
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