if we ask for a contrived plan to get hospital supplies to help us through the pain, they'll just say no, that's too much effort, make a wish so I can heal you already.
Who cares about the supplies. The whole thing was to accidently out our parents to that hospital workers.
QM's Note (edited): For those supporting wish-making: I suggest you explain your reasoning for why you would want to do so. Continuing to vote for wishing without trying to convert other people to your side won't really work out for you. The same goes for those who are against it, but as "don't wish" is currently the more popular opinion, it's not as major.
A few people have started to do this over the past few pages, but they've mostly been pointing out reasons to go for a specific wish. I think you need more for why you would want to contract at all.
Okay then. Reason not to Witch.
Primus. You begin to acquire grief.
Secundus. You have the potential to Grief Spiral and Witch-Out
Tertius. With our characters continual worries about the state of her soul the Witchbomb will likely be the end of us.
Quartus. There really isn't any long term benefit to Witching that can't conceivably be replicated by our Mage abilities.
Quintus. In any setting that has heavy Faustian themes you don't make deals with the Mephistopheles Expy.
Sextus. One of the main reasons for playing this quest is the potential to win without going Magical Girl.
Septimus. The Kyubey system is evil and should not be supported.
Octavius. OOC we know what wishing does so if you purposefully want to inflict that upon a 14 year old girl. Well you know what you're doing.
Nonus. Having a Lich body is kind of Anti-Green
Decimus. Potentially having to spend more Mana to stave off Grief. Jade was able to wipe out a bunch of new Witches with fire. We don't have fire and we're unlikely to hit a giant pocket of new Wiches so any time we are forced to clense it's a waste of mana. Also we don't have our spark to watch clense Mana so we don't even know how to start like Jade was shown.
Huh. That wasn't in my translation.Wishes still happen prior to the Soul Gem being pulled out though So this is clearly not a big problem.
Well it was in the translation you gave me. Also you're still overlooking the fact that the Grief may be siphoned off by Kybuey while the wish is being granted.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here. The point is that corruption is an addition Kyuubey added on. With the ability to naturalise thing, we could remove it and would never need to cleanse. Even if our magic was weaker and our body less durable, that'd be worth it. If it got stuffed back in our body, it would also mean we'd no longer be vulnerable to separation of body and soul.
And again
. The Grief system is the best system for Kyubey. That doesn't mean that he created it. The Greif system may only work the way it is set up. Until you can prove otherwise I don't think you should go around kicking out possibly load-bearing pillars.
I'm using it in the informal context of "evidence that he's a dick".
Actually he really isn't. He doesn't understand human emotions and his motivations aren't the same as a humans. You can't judge him based on human morality. You can say that he
does terrible things but he really isn't a terrible person. He just kind of acts according to motives that we can't agree with but are perfectly reasonable to his race.
He explains what he means when he says they're easier to protect. They're a small target, unlike our body. That's it. And again, not being able to cleanse matters squat in the situation I'm describing as we'd have naturalised emotions, so we'd recover from negative emotions like a normal human being, without ever needing to cleanse in the first place.
You're still assuming for a system that works without accumulating Grief without actually providing evidence.
Energy source that defies thermodynamics does equal magic. That's what the show implies (which makes sense. It defies physics.)
The energy source can
power magic but that doesn't mean that it
is the magic. That source is emotions but emotion aren't magic. They just seem to defy the laws of thermodynamics but that just means that Kyubey in all his wisdom can't figure out how they do so. That doesn't make them magic, that just means he doesn't know the answer.
Point. Doesn't stop it from being to his advantage for the wish to cost corruption though. It means the girl is forced to go hunting right away. More emotional turmoil, more doubt in her wish, faster collection of grief seeds, faster witch turnover. It's all good to him.
The amount of Greif that would most likely be produced by Wishing can easily cause an instant-Witchout. If potential = their max reserves then making a wish equaling their potential wound then equal their reserves and then a Witch appears.[/quote]
See above. And again, it doesn't matter that we don't know another system. All that matters is that corruption is an extra addition. We can remove that addition via naturalisation.
The main point of your entire argument is that Grief is an add-on but you have yet to actually prove that it is not an integral part of the system.
Citing yourself is in bad form old chap. Here, have another.
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