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Disjunction (PMMM/Ignition)

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OverReactionGuy said:
And fail hard because min-maxing wishes never works out. Jade's did because she was a planeswalker and had the directly offensiveness of Red mana and a great source of it.
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Well yes but that doesn't mean it won't happen if we do make a wish. Which fortunately only one or two people seem to want to do so we should be fine on that front.

Anything about controlling or someway negating grief is probably going to insta-witch us though. The "you can have anything but it might 'kill' you limit" is actually a pretty good idea because it prevents making a super powerful wish and then getting as close as possible with your potential. Instead you just Witch.
 
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[X] Ask Azura more questions.
-[X] What kind of magical girl abilities are considered the most valuable?
--[X] If you make a contract, is there anything she would prefer you try to get?
-[X] What's Walpurgisnacht?
--[X] Do sorceresses only show up while Walpurgisnacht is nearby?

[X] Ask QB why he's so interested in you, and why he brought you your pendant when it would only get your parents to punish you some more.
 
We can always talk more with azura later, do you really want to risk her parents finding her in the basement with two/three things that shouldn't be there?
 
[X] Thank Azura for coming over and ask if she could please leave before your parents find her.

[X] Examine the pedant, and afterwards tell Kyubey to put it back where he found it without being caught.

It was nice to have visitors, but she should go. It was nice to see the pendant again, but Kyuubey should put it back.

Common sense, if you're voting to say goodbye to her before our parents come.
 
[X] Thank Azura for coming over and ask if she could please leave before your parents find her.

[X] Examine the pedant, and afterwards tell Kyubey to put it back exactly where and how he found it without being caught.
-[X] And not to do anything that might let them know what happened or that he was ever here.
-[X] You might not see it for a while so try to impress it upon your mind as hard as you can.
 
I like the asking Azura what she'd want for us as a wish so we can find out what sort of things we'd need to learn how to do to help her.

We will probably need a Team eventually, it would fit with Green philosophy, and she seems really strong.

[X] Ask Azura more questions.
-[X] What kind of magical girl abilities are considered the most valuable?
--[X] If you make a contract, is there anything she would prefer you try to get?
-[X] What's Walpurgisnacht?
--[X] Do sorceresses only show up while Walpurgisnacht is nearby?

[X] Ask QB why he's so interested in you, and why he brought you your pendant when it would only get your parents to punish you some more.
 
Paradox said:
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Incubators can't use it because they don't have emotions. Myuubey says as much. Also, the girl grants her own wish, for no corruption cost. Also Kyuubey says that the energy is formed from the transition of one emotion to another. (Hope to grief is most efficient, but not the only option. He says as much.)

Also, the existence of Green shows that magic isn't unnatural. Especially if our Green senses see nothing wrong with an uncorupted magical girl.

[X] Ask Azura more questions.
-[X] What kind of magical girl abilities are considered the most valuable?
--[X] If you make a contract, is there anything she would prefer you try to get?
-[X] What's Walpurgisnacht?
--[X] Do sorceresses only show up while Walpurgisnacht is nearby?

EDIT: Also:

[X] Ask QB why he's so interested in you, and why he brought you your pendant when it would only get your parents to punish you some more.
 
Sereg said:
Also, the existence of Green shows that magic isn't unnatural. Especially if our Green senses see nothing wrong with an uncorupted magical girl.
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We saw nothing wrong with her soul-gem either so it is also natural. Therfore the wish can't fix that.

Ignoring that, Kyubey "Magic" uses "!KyubeySuperScience" which would fall under the purview of Blue which is at complete odds with Green. Therefore it would make sense for Green to remove whatever Science is being used to create that "magic."

Edit: You also seem to be under a misapprehension about Green. Green is about naturally occurring thing. Converting emotions to strange effects is not natural. Especially not something that turns dreams into reality and causing anvils to appear, that's right out.
 
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If it helps your decision-making process any: your parents rarely come back until after several hours have passed. (~90% of the time) If they return earlier than that, it's often within a few minutes in order to beat you more, or when they're in an unusually good mood and/or feeling manipulative willing to let you start on fixing your mistakes early.
 
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Can I just say I'd very much like it if this is the last time we are powerless in the presence of the fuckheads?

So either wishing, getting out, alerting authorities or some sort of magic awakening is a MUST for the next few votes! Agreed?

EDIT: The current winning vote looks alright for now though.
 
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NemoMarx said:
She talked about using FOOF, and she seems creative and impulsive. I'd say she's at least partly Red.
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She Converts her Dreams to Reality. If that isn't Blue then nothing is. Even a little Red does nothing to absolve her of that. Also FOOF is part of Red which would be against the natural order. If something can catch fire then that's fine. If you are actively messing with things to make something that normally would not light do so then you are Anti-Green.
 
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Paradox said:
She Converts her Dreams to Reality. If that isn't Blue then nothing is. Even a little Red does nothing to absolve her of that.
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Dreams are generally pretty emotional though, so why wouldn't it be Red?

Anyway, Paradox, if you're looking for a good time for an IC hint that we're Unusual now's the time.

[] Ask her how she can stand having grief seeds on her all the time.

Or something like that.
 
Torgamous said:
Dreams are generally pretty emotional though, so why wouldn't it be Red?
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Dreams are Ephemeral and Illusory. Interacting with them is the Purview of Blue. Well non-Nightmare ones anyway. Taking something that doesn't exist and causing it to exist is the purview of Blue. Turning Dreams into Reality is like Blue2​.
 
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'Fellow' my good man, 'Fellow'
 
Paradox said:
We saw nothing wrong with her soul-gem either so it is also natural. Therfore the wish can't fix that.

Ignoring that, Kyubey "Magic" uses "!KyubeySuperScience" which would fall under the purview of Blue which is at complete odds with Green. Therefore it would make sense for Green to remove whatever Science is being used to create that "magic."

Edit: You also seem to be under a misapprehension about Green. Green is about naturally occurring thing. Converting emotions to strange effects is not natural. Especially not something that turns dreams into reality and causing anvils to appear, that's right out.
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The existence of Green magic destroys your argument. Besides, we're wishing for the power. Not for it to happen automatically. So anything we didn't want to change would be left unchanged. Grief accumulation isn't natural. We can make it so that grief doesn't accumulate. Magic is natural, or Green wouldn't be able to perform magic.
 
Sereg said:
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I specified "Kyubey Magic" not "Magic." "Kyubey Magic" is really just "Sufficiently Advanced Technology" that runs on emotions. It's all one system. You can't just go around knocking out pieces without expecting the whole system to crumble.

And you really can't say that green likes "Magic" since Green delights in destroying magical Enchantments and Artifacts.

A simplification might be to say that Green likes Druids and dislikes Wizards.
 
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Fair Letters said:
So either wishing, getting out, alerting authorities or some sort of magic awakening is a MUST for the next few votes! Agreed?
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Wishing is a horrible idea, as it leads to long-term pain and suffering, which we'd probably never be able to fix. Worse yet, it'll give the little demon bunnycat another shot at learning about mana by observing a mana using soul directly, which will make any plans to get rid of him much harder.

running away and/or altering the authorities isn't possible, as our character doesn't know that what she's going through isn't the way things should be, save for in the moments when she starts getting hints of Green. Furthermore, we've currently got a tracking bracelet locked around our wrist at all times, and we aren't ever allowed out of the house without direct parent super-vision, so getting away is just about impossible, since we'll be caught very shortly after.

magical awakenings are nice... but we can't really vote for them, as we know nothing IC about our magic potential, and even if we did, they aren't all that easy to just force through. I'm actually hoping that asking QB about the pendant might have him come clean and tell us about Color Magic, which would make things a lot easier for us.



whatever ends up happening, I wouldn't be surprised that within the next day or so QB will end up leading a witch to our house, as he'll likely soon consider our parents to much of a danger to our health, and therefor his experiments into Color Magic.
 
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