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Mechanis said:
Technically possible. Practically, no. the ship isn't really designed to deal with air resistance or major gravity sources outside its own grav plating, since Starships are generally built as pure blackfish. In extrimis even something like Star Seeker could enter atmosphere, but it would very much be something never done under normal circumstances. They're just not built for it.
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I figured with the smaller size it could, but maybe for the exception we could make it built for it. As it is a real concept called a spaceplane. Just this one is a really big one.
 
MortusPrime27 said:
I have no words besides that it looks smaller than the defiant
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quite a bit larger, actually; the Defiant is only 3-ish decks tall IIRC, and the Rapids is more like 12; with larger vertical space to boot. But the Defiant is also something in the ballpark of 200 years more advanced from a polity that pushed their technological progression really hard, so.
Keep in mind that:
Code: 
Furious Wind Class
Length: 184.6 Meters
Height: 142.7 Meters
Width: 58.6 Meters
Nacelle Ring Diameter: 147.1 Meters
The Furious Wind class is Pretty Big Actually in absolute terms. Most of the actually *small* "small" starships are produced by polities considerably more advanced than you are, at the moment, with different pressures on their design space.
 
Mechanis said:
The Furious Wind class is Pretty Big Actually in absolute terms. Most of the actually *small* "small" starships are produced by polities considerably more advanced than you are, at the moment, with different pressures on their design space.
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... That's pretty relevant information when evaluating battery discounts on guns. Something to keep in the back of our minds when we get around to developing the hybrid weapons after plasma, maybe.
 
With all the limits for running into with runtime, I am profoundly glad that I was able to get the blue sky tech that leads to better computers.

The people who think 100,000 tons is small I suggest you pop over to Wikipedia and look up the Nimitz class aircraft carrier.

When I get back to my computer I'm going to go to the Starfleet museum web page and see how those fusion work ships compare and size to the ones we are building. I'll never turn down an excuse to take another look at that Starfleet museum project.

I've been meaning to point out that if you look closely at the pictures of the space dock let the qm posted you will be able to see the old style furious winds flying into dock, and then the refits at various levels of progress.
 
Jalinth said:
I've been meaning to point out that if you look closely at the pictures of the space dock let the qm posted you will be able to see the old style furious winds flying into dock, and then the refits at various levels of progress.
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The spacedock pictures mentioned, from the secondary hulls vote-post:
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I can see the rings getting swapped out, are there other visible changes I'm missing?
 
TeaMug said:
The spacedock pictures mentioned, from the secondary hulls vote-post:
I can see the rings getting swapped out, are there other visible changes I'm missing?
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There are turret mounts on the ones to the left, and you can see turrets on the ones to the right. The first on the left has the deflector dish being brought in to place.

Here is a link to the Starfleet Museum. A quick glance shows that the sizes are fairly comparable to the ships of this setting. Yes, the Star Seeker is absurdly huge by any measure (I can't wait for her refit) but otherwise they'd all fit into the same scene.
 
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[X]Centerline Shuttlebay…
- [X] …with 1 capacity.
 
For people wanting to get a sense of scale, here is a quote of the Scale info threadmark and a tweet by DaveBlass, the Production Designer on Star Trek Picard. He acknowledges in the tweet there are two very different sizes for the Akira. Any efforts to judge the size of various ships is going to run into the fact that shows are not consistent. Still what is described at the production chart seems like a good set of numbers to work from.

Fun fact - The Star Seeker is ~150m longer then a Sovereign-class, and much... fuller figured. The Furious Wind is a bit longer then the Defiant, but also larger in each direction. Starfleet ships tend to be notably more spread out then ours.
Mechanis said:
Also, I was a great big dummy who mathed my math wrong earlier when figures were provided; I went back and redid them properly:

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Type One Shuttle dimensions
Length 28.5 Meters
Height: 6.73 Meters
Width: 6.73 Meters

Star Seeker
Length: 828.5 Meters
Height: 367.4 Meters
Width: 348.4 Meters
Nacelle Ring Diameter: 440.3 Meters

Iron Road Class
Length: 532.4 Meters
Height: 140 Meters
Width: 280.2 Meters
Nacelle Ring Diameter: 261.25 Meters

Furious Wind Class
Length: 184.6 Meters
Height: 142.7 Meters
Width: 58.6 Meters
Nacelle Ring Diameter: 147.1 Meters

Gold Road Class
Length: 265.2 Meters
Height: 100.5 Meters
Width: 113.8 Meters
Nacelle Ring Diameter: 151.1 Meters
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    • > Aft bay with 1 shuttle

    A small shuttlebay is added to the aft, adding a distinct bulge to the rear of the hull and moving the best location for the nacelle ring closer to the center of the ship, as well as pushing the main hull slightly longer to accommodate the necessary cavity. The next system to address is of course the engines. The ship's geometry prevents it from readily mounting a single engine, but a pair could be mounted above and below the shuttlebay or on either side. It would also be possible to mount four engines for maximum maneuverability, but this may draw comment if the ship lacks heavy armament to justify it in the present environment.


    [ ] Twin thruster above and below Shuttlebay
    [ ] Twin thruster to the sides
    [ ] Quad thruster

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