Should the world be a Low Fantasy setting?

  • Yes

    Votes: 63 70.0%
  • No

    Votes: 27 30.0%

  • Total voters
    90
  • Poll closed .
*stares*...So we're just passively being BETTER then the Forloc hunh?
...
Part of me wishes we could just like, go 'hey hey I'm sure you guys are awesome and the best and strongest, and you can prove it by flattening the Caradysh once and for all!' Except...
We have Bronze, no one starves, we're more beautiful, the Caradysh don't dare mess with us (yeah right!), and Urth is scared of our Goddess (Oh)
The problem is while we CAN answer the last one 'did Urth, leader of the Caradysh ever assassinate YOUR king?'...The only way to sort out the next three is to hand over the secrets of farming and Bronze, and the last one I think will straight-up require them to convert to the Goddesses. Which does nothing to answer 'Urth wants no piece of the Goddesses. Nope no way nuh-uh.'

Boar-folks are mobilizing, but we will see what they want when they're civilized.
 
Disappointing, I had hoped they would be a peer.

[X] [Caradysh] Reject their terms until they have been brought to justice. (-3 Temp Diplo, Continues the war, Warriors are unhappy, Priestesses are happy)

[X] [Colryd] Provide the Colryd with copper tools. (-1 Temp Culture, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
 
So are all of our priests women now? Not gonna lie I really do want to kill Urth and all her daughters, but peace is certainly better right now. Basically need to deal with the new lowlander assholes, while building up and scouting out Urth so we can stab her in the back like she did to us.

[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)

I feel like its good to spread our religion and sending some goods is fine as well. Don't really want to teach them to farm better or give them copper because I fell like that is two of our key advantages. I'd like to get Urth's magic knowledge because it should hopefully let us kill her in the future that much easier. Free tribute is always nice as well. Hopefully Urth can bare the major costs in the war if she agrees to help us.

I don't trust Urth with supplying us info and I think our province action should cover us. Allowing daughters of Urth into our civ just seems like a terrible idea.

Considering the Copper Age lasted like 1000 years our rate of advancement is rather impressive. Its been 4 turns since we got copper so around 100 years is very fast.
 
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[X] [Caradysh] Reject their terms until they have been brought to justice. (-3 Temp Diplo, Continues the war, Warriors are unhappy, Priestesses are happy)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
 
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No, but the majority of them are and it is considered to be a woman's job.

Closer to three centuries, but yes, it was quite fast.
Ah still cool though, we are 7 centuries ahead not counting the fact that other civs aren't even in the copper age. I assume its safe to say that fairly rapidly only women will be priests? Seems fairly inevitable at this point.
 
I'm down for reinforcing ties with these two and especially propping up the former to counter the Forluc.

OP, how many options can we choose?
 
Not gonna lie I really do want to kill Urth and all her daughters, but peace is certainly better right now.

Peace is probably better at killing Urth.

Make peace with Urth, then sit at home building stuff while they get their head kicked in by the other guys.

The Caradysh have come again with a second peace offer. Do the People accept and if so, with what terms? Any option with over 50% of the voters voting for it will win they are compatible with the option that has the most votes.

This doesn't really make sense. Is there any reason not to pick all the options?
 
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[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)

The Colryd would make a good buffer between us and the lowlands and worth the risk in my opinion.
 
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Disappointing, I had hoped they would be a peer.

[X] [Caradysh] Reject their terms until they have been brought to justice. (-3 Temp Diplo, Continues the war, Warriors are unhappy, Priestesses are happy)

[X] [Colryd] Provide the Colryd with copper tools. (-1 Temp Culture, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
lol why war, mr accelerationist?
 
[x] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[x] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[x] [Caradysh] The Caradysh is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[x] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[x] [Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
Adhoc vote count started by Raptor580 on Mar 17, 2019 at 9:16 PM, finished with 60 posts and 27 votes.
 
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So, why wouldn't we pick all the options?

Because you might not want to for your own reasons. You might not like one of the options or feel that what you are giving away or getting aren't worth the risk.

I personally stopped trying to figure out how each voter thinks long before I started this quest.
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
 
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Because you might not want to for your own reasons. You might not like one of the options or feel that what you are giving away or getting aren't worth the risk.

I personally stopped trying to figure out how each voter thinks long before I started this quest.

Thing is, we're not giving anything away?
[] [Caradysh] Reject their terms until they have been brought to justice. (-3 Temp Diplo, Continues the war, Warriors are unhappy, Priestesses are happy)
[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to provide the Arthwyd with a regular tribute of Daughters of Urth to serve them. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[] [Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to submit as a vassal to the Arthwyd. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)

Urth offers us stuff for nothing. With the exception of a few options, there's no reason not to take everything. For example, there's no negative in getting animals.
 
Thing is, we're not giving anything away?

I was referring to the Colryd when I said giving away stuff. You might not want to give them stuff such as copper tools or farming knowledge or send your warriors to help them conquer their neighbours.

You are giving away stuff to the Colryd in exchange of farm animals and info on the Caradysh while the Caradysh are offering you free stuff as compensation for their past transgressions against you.

By the way, to make it clear, if you accept this peace treaty, the Arthwyd will consider the Caradysh to be even with them and to have made up for their past actions.
 
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[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some Catclaws and Cateyes to help the Colryd secure their position. (-1 Temp Martial, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)

[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to submit as a vassal to the Arthwyd. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
 
I was referring to the Colryd when I said giving away stuff. You might not want to give them stuff such as copper tools or farming knowledge or send your warriors to help them conquer their neighbours.

Yes, but what about the Caradysh? We don't get obligations there.

By the way, to make it clear, if you accept this peace treaty, the Arthwyd will consider the Caradysh to be even with them and to have made up for their past actions.

No possibility for an alliance of convenience?
 
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