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Belated Battleships (KanColle) [REHOST]

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Firefinder12-B said:
Another thing is that the Kongo had at most an eight inches of armor at the belt, the Colorados had 13.5 inches of armor at the belt.

At range an eight inch shell from a US cruiser will penetrate the Kongo belt while at the same range the same shell will bounce off the Colorados.
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That was at the non-critical areas. In the important areas she had 11.5 inch armor.
 
Mutsu: *sneaks up on Arizona and begins tickling her sides* Hmm~
Arizona: *trying to hold in her laughter and maintain her dignity* Wh-Wh-What a-ARE y-you d-d-do-ing?!
Mutsu: Thirteen... and a half!
Arizona: M-M-My b-ELT?! *manages to shove Mutsu away* You could have a-asked!
Mutsu: It's more fun this way~
 
Old Iron said:
Mutsu: *sneaks up on Arizona and begins tickling her sides* Hmm~
Arizona: *trying to hold in her laughter and maintain her dignity* Wh-Wh-What a-ARE y-you d-d-do-ing?!
Mutsu: Thirteen... and a half!
Arizona: M-M-My b-ELT?! *manages to shove Mutsu away* You could have a-asked!
Mutsu: It's more fun this way~
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*Suddenly Arizona stumbles a bit from a weight around her shoulders*
Jane: Got you!
Arizona: And what are you going to do then?
Jane: *Grins and shoves two fingers into where Arizona's neck meets her shoulder causing said battleship to squirm* Going for the weakspot!
Arizona: GAH!
Mutsu: *Giggles*
 
Harry Leferts said:
*Suddenly Arizona stumbles a bit from a weight around her shoulders*
Jane: Got you!
Arizona: And what are you going to do then?
Jane: *Grins and shoves two fingers into where Arizona's neck meets her shoulder causing said battleship to squirm* Going for the weakspot!
Arizona: GAH!
Mutsu: *Giggles*
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Johnston: *watching the ongoings* Is it really that fun?
Hoel: *shrugs* Only one way to find out.
*five minutes later*
Jersey: What the hell did you do to him!?
Hoel: The same thing Jane did to Arizona...
Crowning: *unconcious on the floor*
 
Aldon said:
Honestly before this fic I'd never seen someone call an Iowa class a fast battleship. She's fast but has none of the reduction in armour that fast battleship normally implies.
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...where have you been. Like, ever.

Even i, a random from Malaysia, knows that the Iowas were fast battleships. And were hax because they had that fast speed without any reduction in armor.
 
Old Iron said:
Mutsu: *sneaks up on Arizona and begins tickling her sides* Hmm~
Arizona: *trying to hold in her laughter and maintain her dignity* Wh-Wh-What a-ARE y-you d-d-do-ing?!
Mutsu: Thirteen... and a half!
Arizona: M-M-My b-ELT?! *manages to shove Mutsu away* You could have a-asked!
Mutsu: It's more fun this way~
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Harry Leferts said:
*Suddenly Arizona stumbles a bit from a weight around her shoulders*
Jane: Got you!
Arizona: And what are you going to do then?
Jane: *Grins and shoves two fingers into where Arizona's neck meets her shoulder causing said battleship to squirm* Going for the weakspot!
Arizona: GAH!
Mutsu: *Giggles*
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Make sure you get up where the head and the neck meets! That the ticklish spot on most people.

And to be fair to Ari thirteen inches was the best at the time since it would bounce 14s, no sell everything under, and even bounce fifteens and sixteens at the right range.
Selonianth said:
Wiki And honestly... I think that might be pre-fastbattleshipness since it has the original deck armor as between 1.5-2.3 inches and then notes that several more inches were added later, in what I can only assume was it's conversion to a battleship.
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Ah I see where you got the eleven... You were looking at her turret armor.
1935–1941: Fast battleship[edit]
On 1 June 1935, the Kongō was dry-docked at Yokosuka Naval Arsenal in preparation for upgrades that would enable her to escort Japan's growing fleet of aircraft carriers. Her stern was lengthened by 26 feet (7.9 m) to improve her fineness ratio and her 16 older boilers were removed and then replaced with 11 oil-fired Kampon Boilers and newer geared turbines.[8] In addition, her bridge was completely reconstructed according to Japan's pagoda mast style of forward superstructure,[13] and catapults were added to support three Nakajima E8N or Kawanishi E7K reconnaissance and spotter floatplanes.[4]

The Kongō 's armor was also extensively upgraded. Her main belt was strengthened to a uniform thickness of eight inches (up from varying thicknesses of six to eight inches), and also diagonal bulkheads of depths ranging from 5 to 8 inches (127 to 203 mm) were added to reinforce the main armored belt.[22] The turret armor was strengthened to 10 inches (254 mm), while 4 inches (102 mm) were added to portions of the deck armor.[22] The Kongō 's ammunition magazine protection was also strengthened to 4.0 inches (10 cm).[8] This reconstruction was finished on 8 January 1937.[1] Capable of greater than 30 knots (56 km/h), despite the significant increase in her hull displacement, the Kongō was now reclassified as a fast battleship.[13]

In February 1937, the Kongō was assigned to the Sasebo Naval District, and in December she was placed under the command of Takeo Kurita in the Third Battleship Division. In April 1938, two float planes from the Kongō bombed the Chinese town of Foochow during the Second Sino-Japanese War.[7] Throughout 1938 and 1939, the Kongō steamed off the Chinese coast in support of Japanese Army operations during the war. In November 1939, Captain Raizo Tanaka assumed command of the Kongō. From November 1940 to April 1941, additional armor was added to the Kongō 's armament barbettes and ammunitiontubes, while ventilation and firefighting equipment was also improved. In August 1941, she was assigned to the Third Battleship Division under the command of Vice Admiral Gunichi Mikawa alongside her fully modified sister warships the Hiei, Kirishimaand the Haruna.[7]
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Whiskey Golf said:
...where have you been. Like, ever.

Even i, a random from Malaysia, knows that the Iowas were fast battleships. And were hax because they had that fast speed without any reduction in armor.
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They did decrease their Torpedo Protection when they changed the design from the South Dakotas. But I already covered that in a another post.
Firefinder12-B said:
To give you some idea of the damage done by torpedoes here's some pictures of the USS West Virginia, a Colorado class battleship the last of the Standard line, after Pearl Harbor. Mind you she ate seven torpedoes, six on the hull and one that took off her rudder.



Sobering ain't it?
And this is how torpedo protection is suppose to work

This is the damage report from the California. Which I beleive is of either the class right before or behind the one before the Colorados.

See how the plates are buckled inwards? But the main compartments of the ship are mostly untouched. You need space and a lot of it to absorb the blast of a torpedo.

The problem is that Iowa class Torpedo Bulkheads are half as thick as the Standards, which means they can take only a fraction of the blast, something like 400 lbs of TNT I remember reading somewhere, compare to the 770 lbs on the earlier South Carolina and South Dakotas. Most torpedoes are 500+ lbs and the infamous Long Lance had over a 1,0000 lbs of stuff that's more powerful then TNT.

The reason for this is because of how the Iowas are so fast. Their engines are big and so take up a lot of room. And they also had to fit through the Panama Canal locks which are only 110 feet wide, the Iowas barely fit at 108 feet. Something had to give. That and when the navy realized the problem the ships where in the middle of construction and to fix it they needed to rebuild the hull, which was mostly done. They want the ships yesterday as it were so they just let it be.



Edit: Here's a cross section picture of several battleships. No clue how accurate it is but it does prove a point.
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Hmm...Kongou class belt is the 8in figure on the wiki. Same with Hiei and Haruna.

Kongou and Kirishima have the 11in figure. Somethings wrong here.
 
They got their belts up-armored to a uniform 8 inches then had secondary angled plates mounted to bolster the belt.
In any case, mind moving it to another thread? I think we're drifting off-topic.
 
Yes now there must be a famous Kongo Tea party where the is massive amounts of various tea's and delicious snacks where upon all the shipgirls currently on base descend and a fairly restrained but jubilant party breaks out.

Highjacked this from Offical manga.
 
Severe off-topic makes Jintsuu sad.

Please don't make Jintsuu sad.

I'm mean enough to her as is.
 
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Yeah, I did mention earlier that we were probably getting off-topic. Hell, this would be off-topic for my British Kongou story.

Probably better that this discussion were in history really.
 
To get back on topic, have some cute:
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Arizona watched as the small girl circled around her trying to look as imperious as possible. Part of her was highly amused at the Admiral's daughter, and the other part was just confused. 'I must admit that she's rather... cute, I suppose is the word.'

Tilting her head, Arizona looked down as the girl looked up with her eyes narrowed. For several moments Jane stared at her before she nodded. "Inspection complete! So, daddy says that you're supposed to be the one watching me?" Slowly, Arizona nodded only to blink as Jane tilted her head to match Arizona's. "You don't talk much, do you Miss Arizona?"

With a slight smile, Arizona reached down and placed her hand on Jane's head. "I just did not feel like there was anything to say."

For a moment, Jane blinked before she looked up at Arizona and straightened. "Right! So, Lieutenant! Are you ready for your mission?"

Slightly curious at what the small girl had planned, Arizona played along a bit and gave her a salute. "Very well, I am ready for my mission."

The next words out of Jane's mouth caused Arizona to furrow her eyebrows. "Good! Let's go bake a cake!" Jane then paused and turned back to the battleship. "Um... what kind of cake do you like?"

Not having expected the question, Arizona blinked as she tried to think of an answer. "I..." After a few seconds, she tapped her chin in thought. "I've never exactly thought of it..."

Her hand was then grabbed by Jane and she was dragged toward the kitchen. "That's okay, we'll just have to find a recipe that you'll like." It wasn't until later that she realized just how funny it was that she, a battleship, was getting dragged around by an energetic young girl.

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Mutsu poked her head into the Admiral's kitchen and had to keep from giggling at the cute sight that met her. There was Jane explaining how to put icing on a cake to Arizona. Said battleship had a cute apron on that Mutsu wondered about where it had come from. 'My, my, my...~'

Having no idea about her audience, Arizona was bent as she watched Jane put on some icing. Of course, she also missed the mischievous smile on the little girl's face. Then Jane swiped some icing with her finger and tapped Arizona on the nose. "Got you!"

Cross eyes, Arizona looked at the smear of icing before she narrowed her eyes. Before Jane could do anything, Arizona took some icing and poked Jane in the cheek. "Got you."

For several moments the two just stood there staring at each other before Jane burst out into laughter and Arizona smiled with a light giggle. Shaking her head, Mutsu moved out of sight and grinned. 'Told the Admiral that this would be good for Ari...'
 
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