They weren't. They were the only bombers big enough to carry a meaningful Anti-shipping payload, fast enough to punch though the flak screen without getting shredded, and piloted by people crazy enough to try dive-bombing in a four-engine supersonic bomber because levelbombing is for noobs.

And Bones are really really sexy.
In a B-1 cockpit over the battle.
*Looks at glowing radioactive demon-ship*
*Looks at raging wall of flack and tracer fire*
*Pilot and Co-Pilot lock eyes, nod, and hit the stereo*
B-1 proceeds to scream down on hostiles to the wailing guitar of Danger Zone
 
In a B-1 cockpit over the battle.
*Looks at glowing radioactive demon-ship*
*Looks at raging wall of flack and tracer fire*
*Pilot and Co-Pilot lock eyes, nod, and hit the stereo*
B-1 proceeds to scream down on hostiles to the wailing guitar of Danger Zone
*Air force Pilots*
*Playing Navy propaganda song*
come on man.
 
Texas, eh? We all know what her theme song will be.



Also, your Texan accents need work JMPer. [/not serious]
 
In a B-1 cockpit over the battle.
*Looks at glowing radioactive demon-ship*
*Looks at raging wall of flack and tracer fire*
*Pilot and Co-Pilot lock eyes, nod, and hit the stereo*
B-1 proceeds to scream down on hostiles to the wailing guitar of Danger Zone
Please....its the Air Force.

They'd play Motorhead.


(notice the four engine bomber behind the skull)

But that's only because the RAF has an absolute deathgrip on Aces High.
 
The B-1B is also a Stealth Bomber I think. I would have personally sent in the F-117s, they have been mothballed and are being stored god knows were. But the B-1B will get the job done as well.
 
The B-1B is also a Stealth Bomber I think. I would have personally sent in the F-117s, they have been mothballed and are being stored god knows were. But the B-1B will get the job done as well.

Let's see, according to Wikipedia:
Lancer: 6 external hardpoints (50000 pounds) and 3 internal bomb bays (75000 pounds)
Nighthawk: 2 internal weapons bays with one hardpoint each and the possible weapons listed top out at 2000 pounds each.

You'd need a lot of Wobblin Gobblins to put the same amount of boom on target as three Lancers.
 
Let's see, according to Wikipedia:
Lancer: 6 external hardpoints (50000 pounds) and 3 internal bomb bays (75000 pounds)
Nighthawk: 2 internal weapons bays with one hardpoint each and the possible weapons listed top out at 2000 pounds each.

You'd need a lot of Wobblin Gobblins to put the same amount of boom on target as three Lancers.

I said F-117s because they are Stealth, then again will Abyssal Spookiness be able to see through Stealth???? *Shrugs* I got no clue.
 
Stealth is only but one consideration when choosing a weapon system. Consider that F-117s are expensive and are very fragile against anti-aircraft fire (albeit, all aircraft are) and usually are not very maneuverable, as well as their limited mission payload due to their airframe necessitating a small and thin structure.

And all the stealth in the world won't save you if your target is firing optically-guided weapons at you, which the F-117 was never designed to defeat.
 
Rule of thumb for this story is that every thing modern will function to equal the WW2 equivalent.
Their equipment was designed to fight at night during the day their AA would eat them and ask for more.
 
According to folks I spoke with at AMARG all of the F-117's have been disposed of anyways. To store them would cost more than is even marginally practical as they cannot be stored outside a climate and humidity controlled environment without breaking down completely. So there are none at AMARG and I *think* that there are none left period.
 
Quick question. Since we have seen carriers launch planes in other ways then bow and arrows, White just chucking toys into the air, Jun'you using the magic scroll (can't think of actual term right now) and then Shinano throwing her arrows, can anyone eventually throw knives? We just saw how only Shimano and, I'm guessing, White could still operate losing an arm, so I guess I'm asking if they can prepare for his. Or is it a case of, if it gets this bad it's all over?
 
As of 2014 there were a number of F-117s being stored at Tonopah in near-mission readiness state, but that was 2 years ago.

Again, people, we're going to be off the coast of Texas. There are two B-1B squadrons in Texas. There are no F-117s or B-52s in Texas. By virtue of being the closest geographically located strategic bombers, the Bones are going to arrive at the party first.
 
I do wonder if the shock wave from a B-One overflying an abyssal Atlanta at minimum clearance would mission kill the cruiser, let alone totally-not-Sara. Who needs ordnance when you've got a sonic boom.
 
Shatter glass... including rangefinders, directors, disrupt the 20mm and 40mm mounts, and generally cause havoc. The sheer amount of energy in a B-One's shock wave is terrible to witness. This isn't a relatively small fighter creating it, this is a massive bomber, and shock wave energy is proportional to the mass of the initiating body.
 
Rule of thumb for this story is that every thing modern will function to equal the WW2 equivalent.
Their equipment was designed to fight at night during the day their AA would eat them and ask for more.
So any stealth aircraft would be roughly as good as a Ho-229 then? And yes, before anyone says it, I know that it wasn't actually "Stealth", just a highly reduced radar signature. From memory, it was good enough that if it had been used in time, the land based radar stations in Britain could only give a fifteen minute window of warning of them coming in. Don't know how that would translate to Abyssal ship radars, but...
 
In a B-1 cockpit over the battle.
*Looks at glowing radioactive demon-ship*
*Looks at raging wall of flack and tracer fire*
*Pilot and Co-Pilot lock eyes, nod, and hit the stereo*
B-1 proceeds to scream down on hostiles to the wailing guitar of Danger Zone
I have two reactions to this. The first is, "Oh, come on. They're Air Force. You KNOW they'd be using something by Dos Gringos instead!"

The second:
GuP Abridged!Miho: "Saori... hit the radio!"
*oontz oontz oontz oontz*
Abridged!Mako: "OH GOD MY TINNITUS!"

According to folks I spoke with at AMARG all of the F-117's have been disposed of anyways. To store them would cost more than is even marginally practical as they cannot be stored outside a climate and humidity controlled environment without breaking down completely. So there are none at AMARG and I *think* that there are none left period.
The Nighthawks were stored at their original base at Tonopah Test Range instead of AMARG specifically because of their environmental control requirements. In addition, there have been documented cases of at least a few having been seen flying over the Nellis Range since their official retirement--suggested explanations include the Air Force keeping a few operational as an "emergency capability" (using the others as parts hulks), the Air Force experimenting with converting them into UCAVs for special purposes, and, in what I consider the most likely option, the Air Force keeping a few flyable as radar test targets. (The F-117's radar signature is more thoroughly documented than any other aircraft in history, and thus unmodified Nighthawks would be excellent "control" tests for experimental radar systems and for calibrating the Nellis Range's many radars, since it should be possible to predict exactly what sort of return you should get for any combination of wavelength, radiated power, slant range, and three-dimensional target aspect.)

Even if they were stored at AMARG, though, the only aspect that would degrade would be their radar-absorbent materials coatings; underneath that, they're entirely conventional aluminum airplanes (with lots of parts from existing DoD parts bins, including non-afterburning versions of the F-18's engines, a throttle from the A-10, and lots of avionics from the F-16) that would rot just as slowly as any other old bird at AMARG once they've applied the Spraylat to the intakes, exhausts, windscreens, and sensor openings.

The big thing is that the Nighthawks would be about as stealthy as a Mosquito was (i.e., just hard to see on radar), but without the benefits of speed and agility that it had, and carrying a lot less of a payload, too. So even if they were brought back, they'd be essentially useless against Abyssal ships.

(Dear god in heaven, though... I just found myself pondering whether Boeing is frantically working on upscaling the new glide-bomb kit they designed for the Mark 50/54 ASW torpedoes to let P-8s drop them from high altitude, hoping to make it work with Mark 48s so as to turn B-52s and B-1s into friggin' torpedo bombers...)
 
Curses, I always fail to properly account for MSSGB in my analysis *shakes fist impotently*

Still we saw in this fic that a bomb from the glassnose BUFFs did crater the flight deck of Habakkuk... so maybe hope is alive for some shockwave action *grins*
 
Curses, I always fail to properly account for MSSGB in my analysis *shakes fist impotently*

Still we saw in this fic that a bomb from the glassnose BUFFs did crater the flight deck of Habakkuk... so maybe hope is alive for some shockwave action *grins*
An AP bomb is an AP bomb, and a BLU-109/B is a 2000-pound AP bomb, with twice the explosive charge of your typical WW2 anti-ship AP bombs--but there WERE 2000-pound AP bombs developed for use against bunkers. The only possible way that MSSB would nerf it for levelling effect is by reducing its impact velocity (the Mk 80 series bombs were designed for low drag compared to the old WW2 bomb cases) to match that of a WW2-era 2000-pounder, reducing how far it can penetrate. It'll still fuck shit up good when it goes off.
 
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