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Firefinder12-B said:
If I do it I'll be going full metal angry NCO on their sterns as soon as they brake it up and not give them a chance to think.
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aren't the battleships considered commanders......on second thought as what is most likely this threads only EMT or higher ranking medical personnel, I might want to stick around after this goes as well as I think it will.
 
Firefinder... I'm well aware how proud you are of NCO stuff... but I'm also completely positive it wouldn't effect two pissed off battleships trying to knock each other out.
 
Spectre said:
aren't the battleships considered commanders......on second thought as what is most likely this threads only EMT or higher ranking medical personnel, I might want to stick around after this goes as well as I think it will.
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General military authority. Which means that if they are fuck up an new boot can correct them.

In this case two commanders are fighting when they should know better, they don't have a leg to stand on, which is what I will hammer home.

They are OFFICERS act like it and now like a bunch of E1s on pass.

Edit: Plus think of it this way. They are two battleships trying to knock each other out, odds are likely that they aren't going to be paying attention to where they are going.
People are stupid, I've have seen people nearly get ran over by a Bradly which muffler was broke so was loud as hell.
Consider that Jersey nearly broke a Marine in half when she hugged him?

You going have to figure out a way to stop two Shipgirls fighting with out the use of another cause there may not be one. They are TOO STRONG not too.

Then you add in all the other little military shit that comes in, like discipline and the not equals headaches. Cause there HAS to be a line for shenignens or else shit get fuck real fast. Cause you are going to have the regular people seeing Shipgirls doing things that would get them yelled at and that is how shit like the Air Force vs the other branches rivalry or how the submarines were view in WW2 happens.
 
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Firefinder12-B said:
General military authority. Which means that if they are fuck up an new boot can correct them.

In this case two commanders are fighting when they should know better, they don't have a leg to stand on, which is what I will hammer home.

They are OFFICERS act like it and now like a bunch of E1s on pass.

Edit: Plus think of it this way. They are two battleships trying to knock each other out, odds are likely that they aren't going to be paying attention to where they are going.
People are stupid, I've have seen people nearly get ran over by a Bradly which muffler was broke so was loud as hell.
Consider that Jersey nearly broke a Marine in half when she hugged him?

You going have to figure out a way to stop two Shipgirls fighting with out the use of another cause there may not be one. They are TOO STRONG not too.

Then you add in all the other little military shit that comes in, like discipline and the not equals headaches. Cause there HAS to be a line for shenignens or else shit get fuck real fast. Cause you are going to have the regular people seeing Shipgirls doing things that would get them yelled at and that is how shit like the Air Force vs the other branches rivalry or how the submarines were view in WW2 happens.
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trust me we understand the reason behind it, I just don't believe your plan would actually work.
 
Firefinder12-B said:
Beside when she and South Dakota were in the same port...

Their entire crews, including the officers, fought each other. And if the records are true it was WASH crew who usually started it.

The MPs finished it.
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you know, that's the problem with getting a good brawl going between ships companies, the MP's and SP's always win.

Edit: @Spectre The thing is, you use the hose to get their attention. then you have the senior NCO chewing, I HAVE seen a pair of O4's end up coming to blows, (stupid frakking bar girls) and they stood their after a senior chief grabbed their attention with a pitcher of ice water and then quickly and quietly chewed their asses before the three went back to base, reported it and the two officers turned themselves in for captain's mast. Scary as hell is the rank of E-8
 
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when in doubt, call in the mom boats. I'd like to see how long any American BB would continue acting stupid if South Carolina or Indiana started chewing on them.
 
Rajvik_wolfboy said:
you know, that's the problem with getting a good brawl going between ships companies, the MP's and SP's always win.

Edit: @Spectre The thing is, you use the hose to get their attention. then you have the senior NCO chewing, I HAVE seen a pair of O4's end up coming to blows, (stupid frakking bar girls) and they stood their after a senior chief grabbed their attention with a pitcher of ice water and then quickly and quietly chewed their asses before the three went back to base, reported it and the two officers turned themselves in for captain's mast. Scary as hell is the rank of E-8
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don't need to tell me twice, had an ex E-8 as my drill instructor for FF1. woe be the dumbass who talked back to him.
 
Selonianth said:
Woe be the dumbass who talks back to ANY Drill Instructor.
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Really? I have it on good authority that giving the drill instructor a bit of lip on the first day is a great way to win friends and influence people. While they will come down on you like a load of bricks, this means they're coming down on everyone else less. In general, the rest of your group will notice this and quietly support you for making their time easier/getting seemingly unfair treatment.
 
sebsmith said:
Really? I have it on good authority that giving the drill instructor a bit of lip on the first day is a great way to win friends and influence people. While they will come down on you like a load of bricks, this means they're coming down on everyone else less. In general, the rest of your group will notice this and quietly support you for making their time easier/getting seemingly unfair treatment.
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and ten seconds later the DI starts using group punishment, killing that plan.
 
Mine went straight to group punishment from the start, and if I remember right two or three of them received disiplinary actions after training ended and were transferred else where.
 
Was acutally thinking about deployments. With _two_ CVE's (US, not Japanese), and their top speed of about 21 knots, why is Musashi getting them?

Instead of the pair being attached to Mushai, attach them to Sasebo or Yokohama, replacing ethier Akagi or Ryu. You _do_ realize ethier CVE carries more Wild (OR Bearcats, yes, Bearcats and Skyradiers were desgined to fly off the CVE's, as well as Corsairs)cats than Ryu carries Zeros? IIRC, Flatchest carries a max of 34, while the CVE's could max with deck load 32, though usually 28?

Given speeds of all invovled, the pair could _easily_ replace Flight deck chest, on the line ('spc given that the pair start with Wildcats/TBF-Avengers, and can upgrade to Skyraiders and Bearcats...), and Ryujo can etheir pull Escort duty with Musashi, or be assigned to Jersey. Much better allocation of assets. AND allows the convoys to speed along faster, than limited to the 15 or so safe knots of the CVE's.

To be honest, given merchant speed, the CVE's are ideal _covering_ the battleships on coastal duty (which they've done before, more or less), and Ryujo is better off with an escort force.

(Indy (assuming she's in the Gulf still) should get the same treatment. CVE's are just too slow for this war, but covering the older Standards or coastal (or ASW HKG work), is what they're going to be. the CVL's and CV's since they're so few, should be tasked with convoy work, or strike work)
 
MageOhki said:
Was acutally thinking about deployments. With _two_ CVE's (US, not Japanese), and their top speed of about 21 knots, why is Musashi getting them?

Instead of the pair being attached to Mushai, attach them to Sasebo or Yokohama, replacing ethier Akagi or Ryu. You _do_ realize ethier CVE carries more Wild (OR Bearcats, yes, Bearcats and Skyradiers were desgined to fly off the CVE's, as well as Corsairs)cats than Ryu carries Zeros? IIRC, Flatchest carries a max of 34, while the CVE's could max with deck load 32, though usually 28?

Given speeds of all invovled, the pair could _easily_ replace Flight deck chest, on the line ('spc given that the pair start with Wildcats/TBF-Avengers, and can upgrade to Skyraiders and Bearcats...), and Ryujo can etheir pull Escort duty with Musashi, or be assigned to Jersey. Much better allocation of assets. AND allows the convoys to speed along faster, than limited to the 15 or so safe knots of the CVE's.

To be honest, given merchant speed, the CVE's are ideal _covering_ the battleships on coastal duty (which they've done before, more or less), and Ryujo is better off with an escort force.

(Indy (assuming she's in the Gulf still) should get the same treatment. CVE's are just too slow for this war, but covering the older Standards or coastal (or ASW HKG work), is what they're going to be. the CVL's and CV's since they're so few, should be tasked with convoy work, or strike work)
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RJ carries a max deckload of 48, compared to a Casablanca-class CVE's 28. But regardless of plane counts, putting the CVEs in a battle fleet is not a good idea. There's a reason they're called CVEs. They're slow, and they don't have any armor to speak of. If an escort carrier finds herself under air attack, she's going to die. She can't dodge, and she's too fragile to take hits.

Also, they're not gonna stick RJ with an escort force because they need her planes elsewhere. The JMSDF was only able to spare Akagi and Ryujou for so long because of how massive a threat the Northern Princess represented.
 
theJMPer said:
RJ carries a max deckload of 48, compared to a Casablanca-class CVE's 28. But regardless of plane counts, putting the CVEs in a battle fleet is not a good idea. There's a reason they're called CVEs. They're slow, and they don't have any armor to speak of. If an escort carrier finds herself under air attack, she's going to die. She can't dodge, and she's too fragile to take hits.

Also, they're not gonna stick RJ with an escort force because they need her planes elsewhere. The JMSDF was only able to spare Akagi and Ryujou for so long because of how massive a threat the Northern Princess represented.
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Besides Musashi is probably starved for cuddles, and who better to give those cuddles then some murderously adorable CVE's and the pocket BB herself?
 
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