Ascensions and Transgressions: the Tales of Keris Dulmeadokht (Exalted game)

Sasi: *Praying to the Yozi*

Sasi: "First and foremost, fuck off Adorjan."

Adorjan: *sad murder wind silence*


Keris: "I don't get it, why do the Unquestionables keep letting me do stuff and not take any precautions?!"

Me: "Because they do not respect you as a person or a threat. You're falling into that mental box labeled 'Potentially amusing toy and/or distraction' and you and all other Infernals are going to stay there until someone does something stupid and reminds everyone involved why Exalts are profoundly dangerous and unstable superweapons glued into unstable humans. So take advantage of it while you can, because ooh boy when that bubble pops, it is not gonna be pretty."
 
Sasimana said:
By the names of the Unquestionable, souls of the Yozis, you will submit oh soul of mine! You will obey! Ligier, Iudicavisse, Noh, Kagami…

Oh Sasi, that's not her name. Which is probably as well, because invoking her while chaining yourself is asking for disaster (reference what happened when Keris wore bondage onstage back in Calibration 772; I think she might have figured out infernals are baby Yozis from talking to Eko and so saw parallels with the chaining of her Greater Self).
 
Oh Sasi, that's not her name. Which is probably as well, because invoking her while chaining yourself is asking for disaster (reference what happened when Keris wore bondage onstage back in Calibration 772; I think she might have figured out infernals are baby Yozis from talking to Eko and so saw parallels with the chaining of her Greater Self).
While I don't think Noh had anything to do with Sasi's plan going awry here, it does parallel very well as Noh, the Dragon's fetich, being chained by her sibling souls is being mirrored here, with Sasi and her other souls chaining up her Po, the Blasphemer in Gold.
 
Rereading the notes on Sasi's soul hierarchy, this has been something of a coup by Sasi's junior souls. Marenolo (7th, SWLIHN-flavoured), Moneha (8th, Metagaos?), and La (9th, Elloge) against the Blasphemer in Gold (2nd, po) over the objection of Mu Nenra (4th, agata & coadjutor) and in the absence of Kalaska (5th, Cecelyne) and Seresa (6th, the Ebon Dragon).

Obviously, Seresa would be opposed to this if she knew: it is her opinion that Sasi should be indulging her desires, not suppressing them. For Kalaska, things are more complicated. On one hand, Sasi's action is completely in line with the principle of fear/need for control that Kalaska embodies. On the other hand, Kalaska is the powerless child who depends on the rules for protection, so something that violates the sanctity of the component souls threatens her personally. In balance, I'm fairly certain Kalaska would have opposed too.

Kalaska being absent for two years, and Seresa for three, is impacting Sasi's behaviour. This may be sort of Keris's fault for taking them with her for such an extended period of time, especially without a Dulmea-equivalent to keep things on the level.

The Odyssey said:
So Menelaus, amassing a hoard of stores and gold,
was off cruising his ships to foreign ports of call
while Aegisthus hatched his vicious work at home.
Seven years he lorded over Mycenae rich in gold,
once he'd killed Agamemnon—he ground the people down.
But the eighth year ushered in his ruin, Prince Orestes
home from Athens, yes, he cut him down, that cunning,
murderous Aegisthus, who'd killed his famous father.
Vengeance done, he held a feast for the Argives,
to bury his hated mother, craven Aegisthus too,
the very day Menelaus arrived, lord of the warcry,
freighted with all the wealth his ships could carry.

So you,
dear boy, take care. Don't rove from home too long,
too far, leaving your own holdings unprotected—
crowds in your palace so brazen
they'll carve up all your wealth, devour it all,
and then your journey here will come to nothing.
 
Obviously, Seresa would be opposed to this if she knew: it is her opinion that Sasi should be indulging her desires, not suppressing them. For Kalaska, things are more complicated. On one hand, Sasi's action is completely in line with the principle of fear/need for control that Kalaska embodies. On the other hand, Kalaska is the powerless child who depends on the rules for protection, so something that violates the sanctity of the component souls threatens her personally. In balance, I'm fairly certain Kalaska would have opposed too.

Not quite. Moneha is the need to control everything, and always be in control, and never show weakness. Kalaska is Sasi's fears and anxieties and neuroses, and thus she'd have been vehmently and violetly opposed to it, because the thought of carrying out psychic soul self surgery is terrifying.

But otherwise, yes, well observed that in many ways this is a coup by the younger souls who are taking advantage of the absence/weakness of the older souls.
 
So since we're getting more Sasi focus and development in this sidestory, I was hoping to get an up-close look at how her flaw of Gluttony (as detailed in @Aleph's Sinfernals writeup) shows up in her psyche. Needless to say, these chapters have delivered in spades.

Gluttony tends to show up in pop culture (and Sunday school lessons, from personal experience) as the Sin of Stuffing Your Face. Sometimes it's generalised to refer to overindulgence in other things besides food. Binge-watching Netflix, maybe, or spending way too long scrolling through your social media feeds. Doing things to excess all because it feels good.

Sasi (A Visitor to the Street of Sin II) said:
"What does that matter when everything feels good?"[...]"The only thing that matters is delight. Only do things that feel good. And do everything that feels good."

But gluttony according to the likes of Pope Gregory I or St Thomas Aquinas isn't just about stuffing your face. It isn't necessarily about overindulgence either. It's a sin of excess but that excess is of desire. Placing your own gratification as a priority above every other good thing in your life.

And boy does Sasi end up falling hard into that.

Beginnings and Bad Decisions III said:
Who could ask her to fight this? It made it easy to surrender.
right now she couldn't lie: the life in such a controlled state wasn't worth it.

So why not give up all control?
Her choices didn't matter now and never had. She was weak. This is what she was. So she could just give in and be the pet of her souls.

I like that last quote in particular. It's incredibly blunt as metaphors go.

But the problem with instant gratification is it doesn't last much longer than that. Sasi knows this.

Her own souls couldn't keep her in this state forever. Moneha would push her to take control once more, Marenolo's curiosity would get the better of him, La served the Yozis above her and even gentle Seresa was not strong enough, because Sasimana's own desire for submission lived in her heart rather than Seresa. And soon enough Kalaska's influence would escape the binding placed on it, if she left the numbness that maintained her self-ensorcellment.

But don't worry! She has a plan!

"We'll have our child together, our third, and they'll make sure I'm yours forever. That I'll never want to be anything other than yours. And that you'll never want me to be any different. You're my depraved mistress! All that you are owns all that I am! It's all I want! It's all you want!"

And that plan is apparently, if I'm parsing this right, to force radical soul-altering surgery on herself and her girlfriend so that they'll both have the same distorted set of priorities. Reducing herself to a mere plaything to be used and abused as Keris sees fit. Reducing Keris to merely the depraved mistress she needs to complete her fantasy. So we get a gluttony-lust double feature. Two sins for the price of one!

With a special guest appearance from envy:

Keris after Sasi expresses what a good time Keris is showing her said:
"Better than Testolagh?"
Because that's what really matters here. Obviously :V

The Sinfernals writeup calls gluttony the most compassionate of all the sins, but that doesn't make it any less harmful or dangerous. Sasi has her own po shintai now, which seems to be themed around Gluttony the same way Keris's lamia-form is themed around Fear. And under its influence, the landscape of Keris's inner world warps drastically. She tries to lie to Keris about a past that never happened.

Something snapped. Cold, hissing fear coiled around her heart. No. No, that wasn't right. She'd never had a goodbye with Gull. And Rat was dead.

What really gets me is that this isn't even the first time it's happened to Keris. Good thing she hit that Pekhijira button when she did.

But, well, Keris eventually managed to make her Fear and Envy work pretty well for her. I hope Sasi comes to terms with her flaws as well.

And not via doing anything like binding her po again. That was just silly.
 
Well then! This is a lovely insightful comment! In fact, it's so lovely and thoughtful and impressive that I think you all deserve the next release a day early! I think the content of this release answers a lot of the questions and confirms a lot of the analysis posted here, so I'll let it stand for itself - though I will make one note.
under its influence, the landscape of Keris's inner world warps drastically.
Not sure what's meant by this? We haven't seen into Keris's inner world as of yet, unless you just mean her "inner world" in the sense of her state of mind. Do clarify and expand!
 
I realize this is a very serious story about Sasi's self hatred and self destructive urges, but I also want to mention that line(you know which one) in the middle of La's speech about Keri's body as a temple to the Yozi just about killed me outright.
 
I realize this is a very serious story about Sasi's self hatred and self destructive urges, but I also want to mention that line(you know which one) in the middle of La's speech about Keri's body as a temple to the Yozi just about killed me outright.
La: "Keris, you are dummy thicc, and the clap of your ass cheeks keeps alerting the faithful!"
 
Not sure what's meant by this? We haven't seen into Keris's inner world as of yet, unless you just mean her "inner world" in the sense of her state of mind. Do clarify and expand!

Oh, that... I was referring to the way her inner world started melting and turning into gold in one of those visions, and maybe trying to draw even more of a parallel to what the raksha did that one time. I was afraid that it was happening/set to happen with the sorcery Sasi was also doing. I blame the Hegran dreamwine.

Hegra: Not Even Once.

I realize this is a very serious story about Sasi's self hatred and self destructive urges, but I also want to mention that line(you know which one) in the middle of La's speech about Keri's body as a temple to the Yozi just about killed me outright.

It was the second-most brain-breaking bit of this sidestory for me, right next to the Sasi/Calesco crackship.
 
I realize this is a very serious story about Sasi's self hatred and self destructive urges, but I also want to mention that line(you know which one) in the middle of La's speech about Keri's body as a temple to the Yozi just about killed me outright.

Unfortunately, drawing one's nature from Elloge rather increases one's risk of purple prose.
 
Given what we see happening to Sasi's souls in chapters 7 and 8, I am concerned for Sasi's ongoing humanity. The way her Po seems to be metastasizing through her other souls, and the way Keris compares it to the creation of a hungry ghost, makes it feel potentially terminal.

I suspect the end of this process might be her unchained Po devouring her Hun, a metaphysical death leaving behind some kind of inhuman, id-driven behemoth. I wouldn't expect that to happen to any other Exalt - but normal Exalts, for whatever that term's worth, don't go performing radical and untested soul-alterations on themselves without even consulting anyone.

Thank the All-Makers that Keris is there, has the knowledge and motivation to find a cure, and has the Shaping/UMI defenses to throw off "Lol, I've appended 'in a sexual way' to each of your Principles/Relationships."
 
I thought it would be prudent to point out that "Fear & Excess" has released a new chapter over on AO3 as this thread doesn't provide notifications of a change to the threadmark.

The story just reached a conclusion in the Keris - Gold!Sasi conflict after an exciting fight that saw La show some fascinating new abilities and Keris fully demonstrate just how scary she is in a fight. Aleph did a particularly great job of showing how each of her Charms manifests itself in her fighting style. I really enjoyed being able to immediately recognize what Charm Keris was using simply based on the vivid way it is described.
 
You know, it occurs to me that once this whole crisis is firmly in the past and everyone can reflect on things for a bit, Keris is going to feel super smug about the fact that po!Sasi fixated on her while barely mentioning Testolagh
 
I finally got around to reading this over the last couple of days and only after finishing it all on AO3 do I discover, to my mixed glee and horror, that there's commentary for everything over here I could have been reading as I went :V

I do have a question - somewhere in one of the early logs, Testolagh says he doesn't miss sleeping (shortly after they first meet in the North). This is fairly clearly him being Malfean and having Nightmare Fugure Vigilance, but in Secrets Revealed Ch4 he mentions having a sleep cycle? Caught my eye.

But moving on to more general reactions, I have consistently been super impressed by you guys' mastery of characterisation. Keris' grappling with her budding compassion and her loyalty to the Reclamation, her need to be loved, the dynamics of her relationship with Sasi re: they genuinely do love and support each other but are also kind of a little bit really unhealthy (and that was before I got to Fear and Excess, which I'll return to in a minute), becoming a mother and trying to parent a bunch of deva lords with fundamentally not-entirely-human psychology, the whole fallout of the Big Reveal About Keris' Past - I've already skipped a bunch that could be in the middle of that list and I could still go on, but you get the picture. You do a consistently fantastic job of making not just Keris, not just her souls and supporting cast, but Creation as a whole feel like a living place.

This is a big part of what makes the "being an at least nominally loyal Infernal" thing work for me (also, Lilunu, who is fantastic and ES should be proud). Keris is a better person than she used to be, but she's still not exactly a good person. But she's engaging and compelling because she struggles with it, because she grows and develops not just as numbers on a character sheet but as a person. I usually drop a work as soon as mind control comes into things if it's any more than a section/chapter or two I can skim through, let alone a monster series like A&T, but here I am, even after all the UMI social Charms and genuinely freak-me-out shit I have to not think too hard about like Self-Seed Infestation and whatever the secondary-personality-watchdog spell was called. Yeuch.

Speaking of yeuch, it's time to talk about Fear and Excess, which is as impressively well-written as everything else you've published, entirely in-character and believable, builds on hints from previous instalments re: Sasi being Not Okay, and yet even setting aside... I probably can't get specific on SV but some of Sasi's particular kinks... I hate it. This is hardly any slight against you; the fact that your characterisation is so consistently fantastic and you're so good at writing complex characters means I do genuinely like Keris and Sasi despite myself, and I am a sap, so seeing them be viciously, fundamentally Not Okay is just unfun. Hopefully things will resolve in a way that means they can eventually be at least Slightly More Okay.

Moving swiftly onward, I've tinkered with the Kerisgame Hacks a bit and come to the conclusion that I actually really like them for the most part, though I think I've settled on a hybrid Essence/Enlightenment system that offers more room for the power/control dynamic, 'conceptual weight' vs understanding and harmonisation with the power of your soul and the cosmos. "I can bounce fuckoff giant hammers with my abs by declaring I AM" versus "I can stop a giant fuckoff hammer with a touch by sublime understanding of momentum and inertia". Really must get around to finishing the Municipals draft, now I think about homebrew :V

I'm most impressed - typically of me - with the Charms, both in terms of the outright homebrew (snek Keris is fantastic, for one, and I love everything about Pantheon Charms) and in the quality-of-life adjustments to other Infernal stuff, but that being said I also think the Styles system is super cool and am currently in the process of stealing it for the endless characters I make in my eternal inability to find an actual game to play in or players to run one for.

Anyway, in conclusion, this is overall one of my very favourite series - not just in RPG terms but as a story - and you guys should be super proud of what you've created here as authors and homebrewers, even aside from the fact that you've been playing this game for ELEVEN YEARS WHAT THE FUCK.

You know, it occurs to me that once this whole crisis is firmly in the past and everyone can reflect on things for a bit, Keris is going to feel super smug about the fact that po!Sasi fixated on her while barely mentioning Testolagh

Honestly I feel pretty sorry for the guy. Having your girlfriend come back one day and tell you "so I know we agreed I could sleep around for the sake of the mission/as long as my heart was still yours but surprise I have a girlfriend now" is already a super rough deal (and puts me in the amusing position of being less forgiving than a Malfeas-primary Infernal); even acknowledging that the 'different needs' thing Sasi uses as her rationale for having two romantic partners could reasonably mean that she loves Testolagh primarily for hun-reasons...
 
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