Anderson Quest: Killing Vampires and Werewolves and Leprechauns (Hellsing/Bloodborne)

And shes literally a witch as far as I understand.
That too!

I mean seriously.

"I made a binding contract with an unholy power that isn't God in order to fulfill my desires! Thankfully, I'm a cute girl so please forgive me!"
"Yeah, no. The only thing I'm ponderin' here is whether or not to burn ya, drown ya, or stab ya. Aw, forget it, let's compromise and do it all!"*
*solved by stabbing someone, dumping them in a barrel of oil, and setting it on fire*


But yeah, by lots of logical arguments and points, and even EVIDENCE, Anderson is more likely to gut Kyoko than help here. Thankfully for the 'feelz'-seekers, Tricia is a much more optimistic person and instead certain aspects of Anderson are ignored so that he can be nice to her.

Let's head off a massive clusterfuck of an argument and just agree to disagree before insults and vitriol starts flying, okay? Because I've seen it start from this before.

EDIT: Oh man, you guys really don't know where to stop. Not gonna join in on this echo-chamber or whatever. Washing my hands of this mess.


Still, @TheOneMoiderah
Each of your posts are nothing but swear-filled insults and childish diatribe. I've lost all respect for you at this point, and I hope we never encounter each other ever again, because it's really just not fun to interact with you.

At least other posters can retain a veneer of decency. But no, not you.
Oops. Didn't know that!
 
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If you are just going to go against character and just do whatever you want then why are you playing as him?
That's a bad defense. For anything.

Also, I'm still here because it's entertaining and despite Anderson being a humorous one-note character, I have respect for Tricia and her writing. She's proven that he can be written with actual depth and characterization instead of a child-murdering murderhobo, while still keeping the traits and qualities that make him so goddamn entertaining.

I am not here to read about how it makes sense that he'd gut a traumatized girl because Protestantism tho. This joke here is now a real true part of his character now tho.
also holy shit crossy the edge ow
Also, he runs an orphanage. And I don't care what you say, Kyouko's still, at the oldest, fifteen.
watch out before you cut yourself
There's a point where it stops being "IT MAKES SENSE" and just becomes "EDDDDDDDDDGE." And I don't feel like going further because this whole argument's shitting up the thread.
 
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EDIT: Also, Kyoko ain't a child. She's a teen by now. Or at least pretty close to an adult. Definitely old enough that she shouldn't incite "but the children!" in someone looking at her. IGNORE anime-style imagery. In RL, she wouldn't look like a child at all.
She'd be 14 or so, actually - she's younger than Mami, who's believed to be 15. And she went through a period of under-nutrition/malnutrition when she was younger.
 
You know the funny thing is Kyoko isn't Protestant. And her father broke off from the local church because they had a disagreement. We don't know what that disagreement on teachings were. We do know it wasn't handed out by the Pope. So Anderson wouldn't care.

The fact that the snippet is full of 'feelz' doesn't make it safe from the fact that Abridged Andersen really does seem like he would rather murder her than help her emotionally, considering how free he was with the murder on other Hellsing agents for being protestant.

You've done nothing but express a desire for Anderson to murder Kyoko under the thin veneer of "She's Protestant!" She isn't, and Anderson notably has a soft spot for children.
Also, your tone has always been aggravatingly aggressive, and it's kinda annoying when people are having some decent discussion and you pop up.
You've done nothing but express resentment for Anderson not murdering a child. It really isn't a stretch why people would be aggravated with that.

Oh, he definitely does. To me, it seems like it's you that doesn't.

Kyoko isn't Integra to him. Some random, filthy protestant is likely to get the bayonet, not the hugs. The Yharnamites have the excuse of never having heard of jesus. Kyoko doesn't.
You are really obsessed with Kyoko being murdered, holy hell. And Again, SHE ISN'T PROTESTANT.
Now, we can argue around with whatever, but you have to remember that religious fanatics have historically been known to murder children if need be, and Anderson is less a person and more a weapon than anything else.


It's skewed towards him murdering Kyoko in an argument without a higher authority to skew it for her.
Honestly, it sounds more like you want to see him murder Kyoko.
Doesn't mean I have to agree with it. It's a good piece if you're looking for 'feelz' and hope and Good Ends, but in a more neutral setting, it would be the unrealistic one, or at least one less likely to happen than the alternative (Anderson comes in like a bat out of hell/Darkwraith and ganks her).
This is patently creepy.

You aren't presenting an argument, you're trying to justify your desire to see Kyoko killed as "But Anderson would do it!" You've been mocking Tricia's omake as done solely for the "Feelz" and for some reason can not comprehend why no one wants to see Anderson murder a child.

But yeah, by lots of logical arguments and points, and even EVIDENCE, Anderson is more likely to gut Kyoko than help here. Thankfully for the 'feelz'-seekers, Tricia is a much more optimistic person and instead certain aspects of Anderson are ignored so that he can be nice to her.

Let's head off a massive clusterfuck of an argument and just agree to disagree before insults and vitriol starts flying, okay? Because I've seen it start from this before.
There is no argument or point here. You're adamant in mocking Tricia's omake and the people who like it. For no reason other than how much you want to see something "Realistic" happen. If anything the false civility is more aggravating than the blunt responses. Because at least they're honest with their intentions, rather than trying to hide it.

Nor are you a mod or Tricia, so kindly stop bolding your posts. Bolding them doesn't make them anymore important than anyone elses. Well, if anything they make them less important, but the content of them does it by itself.
 
You know the funny thing is Kyoko isn't Protestant. And her father broke off from the local church because they had a disagreement. We don't know what that disagreement on teachings were. We do know it wasn't handed out by the Pope. So Anderson wouldn't care.
Wait, she's not?

So she's...catholic? Well, that changes things!

My argument pretty falls apart if she's catholic.

So if she's catholic, you win. If not, well, I'll stand by what I said.

EDIT: wait, no, she's also a fucking witch. Yeah, no, I'll still consider it in-character to kill her.


Oh, and lookit! It's already turning into a clusterfuck. Told you guys it's gonna turn hellish. Gonna be a better man and just keep away.
 
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There's a point where it stops being "IT MAKES SENSE" and just becomes "EDDDDDDDDDGE." And I don't feel like going further because this whole argument's shitting up the thread.
Dude, in his big Iscariot speech they talk about how they hang themselves and go to hell so they can fight demons. Past the edgy mark in hellsing long ago. And I never said I wanted him to kill her. I just said I would imagine he wouldn't be so nice because she might not be christian. Though I would consider it in character to kill her because she is actually a witch.
 
So she's...catholic? Well, that changes things!
Going by his outfit and the architectural style of his church, he seems to be Anglican, otherwise known as the Japanese Holy Catholic Church, yes.

Also if people could stop accusing CrossyCross of wanting to see Anderson murder children, that'd be great. It's not about wanting to see kids get stabbed, it's about his desire to see Anderson faithfully portrayed, which does unfortunately mean yes, his righteous wrath for Protestants does clash with his love of children. Note, I say clashes - personally I suspect he'd view Protestant kids from a perspective of "poor wee buggers, lead astray before they ever had a chance to hear the TRUE WORD" and just add it to their dollop of original sin.
 
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Dude, in his big Iscariot speech they talk about how they hang themselves and go to hell so they can fight demons. Past the edgy mark in hellsing long ago. And I never said I wanted him to kill her. I just said I would imagine he wouldn't be so nice because she might not be christian. Though I would consider it in character to kill her because she is actually a witch.
The Papal church adopted and then dropped HARD the whole witch thing very late into the actual witch hunts. The whole witch hunts were started and mostly carried out by the protestants actually. Usually against Catholics. Generally official word from the Papal church before and I think afterwords was that Witches aren't real.

Don't quote me on the whole history thing though, it's half remembered at best.

Edit: And before people say Joan of Ark that's wrong. She was never called a witch, she was officially burnt at the stake for wearing mens clothing. And she was catholic.
 
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The Papal church adopted and then dropped HARD the whole witch thing very late into the actual witch hunts. The whole witch hunts were started and mostly carried out by the protestants actually. Usually against Catholics. Generally official word from the Papal church before and I think afterwords was that Witches aren't real.

Don't quote me on the whole history thing though, it's half remembered at best.

Edit: And before people say Joan of Ark that's wrong. She was never called a witch, she was officially burnt at the stake for wearing mens clothing. And she was catholic.
The church is generally killing too. Its why the organization Anderson is part of doesn't officially exist and they seem to believe they are going to hell.
 
they seem to believe they are going to hell.
Which completely contradicts the idea of having your name written in the Book of Life, in which is written the name of everyone who accepts Jesus as LORD and savior (or whoever obeyed God before the new covenant, in the Old Testament days).

Many verses talk about how those who sin will not inherit the kingdom of God, or how no one who sins will be able to enter the New Jerusalem, but there ISN'T a Christian who doesn't sin. Like I said, there is no perfect Christian save Christ himself.

God tells us that he forgets our sin; it is as removed from us and from his thoughts of us "as the East is from the West". That's what accepting Christ and being FORGIVEN means. You've heard "to forgive is to forget"? God makes himself forget!

Catholics nominate exceptional figures as saints, but the New Testament declares that anyone named in the Book of Life is a saint -- someone who isn't a sinner, not because they no longer sin (because we do, every single one of us), but because God doesn't recognize that they sin. He refuses to recognize; his son already paid the price in full. The debt is paid, the matter is settled, the work is DONE.

The only justice which awaits someone named in the Book of Life are the rewards that your good deeds earned. Those who did more good works or who kept the better attitude in their lives will be more richly rewarded than those who accepted Christ and then did nothing with the Gospel.

Alexander Anderson accepted Christ and then protected humanity from monsters and raised orphans with real love. He can expect the full inheritance of God plus the rewards for his actions. He's not going to Hell, though he's sure to be embarrassed for a brief time.


Anderson talks about Kyoko coming back to God, but that's only true in her decisions, not God's. She's been irrevocably GOD's child since she accepted his son.

God doesn't give up any child. Once you're a child, you're always a child. He won't let you go, and no one can take you from him. You're safe.
 
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Ah, to clear something up (and sorry for double-posting) but...

The passages that talk about sinners being thrown out isn't contradicting what I said; the point is to emphasize the necessity of Jesus' salvation. Since EVERYONE sins, even those who have accepted Christ, then no one could possibly earn their way into forgiveness. If nothing else, no matter how many good deeds you do, it never erases your bad deeds.

Context is everything. When some passages seem to contradict other passages, it pays to know the context which defines and informs things.

Anyone who wants to point out that God labels "homosexuals" as abominable should also remember that God considers liars and arrogant people to be abominable as well.

Straight people reading this, tell me you don't lie or look down your noses at anyone. I know I do.
 
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I mean there is sinning like "I stole this mars bar" and then there's sinning like "I gleefully killed a bunch of people because they don't want flashy churches and think people other than priests can give mass"
 
You guys seem to be forgetting that Anderson, abridged or not, has a soft spot for children. Honestly that's the only reason he's giving Kyoko that much leeway. You can't blame really blame children for rash actions and their upbringing, and with running an orphanage Anderson surely understands.

If he met her father on the other hand...
This is pretty much correct

The simple fact is that he has a soft spot for children period, but after they become adults he is a whole lot less gentle.

Take what happened to Maxwell, a man he raised from a young age, for example. He's a man who has a very clear ability to separate his faith, his duty, and his morality and act in accordance with all of them.

He does this because he's insane, and is therefore able to act in such a manner without ever noticing any kind of inconsistency in his actions.
 
Sooooooooo... that Non-canon omake was very nice.

Coming from someone who hasn't played Bloodborne (seeing as he's a poor bastard who can't afford a PS4), what brand of dickery can we expect from the Pyramidhead knock-off/Alfred? I read that he uses a wheel to fight? How does that work?
 
Sooooooooo... that Non-canon omake was very nice.

Coming from someone who hasn't played Bloodborne (seeing as he's a poor bastard who can't afford a PS4), what brand of dickery can we expect from the Pyramidhead knock-off/Alfred? I read that he uses a wheel to fight? How does that work?
He only uses the wheel when he is in full executioner mode, otherwise he utilizes the Kirkhammer which is essentially a sword/hammer combo
 
Got a video that shows what it does better than me explaining how it works.

What I'm getting is that Anderson can't afford to tank one of those in the face, otherwise he'll have a grand time trying to regenerate his head getting acquainted with an industrial-strength grind stone
He only uses the wheel when he is in full executioner mode, otherwise he utilizes the Kirkhammer which is essentially a sword/hammer combo
What triggers that mode though?

And I'm thinking Anderson'll be a tad bit impressed with the kirkhammer, not for its killy potential, but for its simple-yet-clever-looking transformation. Might give him ideas for our next visit to Gehrman.
 
What triggers that mode though?
Going to Castle Cainhurst and getting the unopened summons. But first you need to go through that back entrance of Iosefka's clinic, get into the room you wake up in at the game's start, find the Cainhurst Summons in that room, go to the Forbidden Woods, get picked up by a driverless carriage, end up at the castle, fight blood engorged tick monsters, fight the castle's cleaning staff and headless ghosts, beat a boss, take his crown, put on crown, brief cutscene, go into the expanded castle, meet the last Vileblood, either go right or left to pick up the unopened summons, meet Alfred, hand him the summons, return to Castle Cainhurst, find Alfred dressed as Pyramid Head ranting about how he turned the last Vileblood into goo, talk to him he will give you some stuff, return to where you first met him he will be dead as he killed himself, take his stuff.
 
find Alfred dressed as Pyramid Head ranting about how he turned the last Vileblood into goo,

And it is a glorious rant.

"Master, look! I've done it, I've done it! I smashed and pounded and grounded this rotten siren into fleshy pink pulp! There, you filthy monstrosity! What goods your immortality now! Try stirring up trouble in this sorry state! All mangled and twisted, with every inside on the outside, for all the world to see! Heh he he he he he!"
 
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I mean there is sinning like "I stole this mars bar" and then there's sinning like "I gleefully killed a bunch of people because they don't want flashy churches and think people other than priests can give mass"
That difference matters to people. Not so much to God.

ANY evil, no matter how small, makes you imperfect. Forever. That's how much justice God has.

But when Jesus said "It is finished" on the cross just before he died, he MEANT it. The work is finished, complete, total, over and done.

Hilter would be forgiven, if he accepted Jesus. THAT's how much grace God has.
 
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