An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.5%
  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%
  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 379 44.5%

  • Total voters
    851
So can he do or not blow up stars, if he can he should totally blow up the the korks star, if he can't then those pluses are useless and he might as well not be all that much stronger. It literally cost us nothing.

He can, he just prefers not to if at all possible. It's not like Exterminatus(of most types), you can't un-blow up a star and there's only so many of those around. He's not gonna be able to make more faster than they burn out. Not any time soon anyway.
 
Wanna help me out here on the base space Froggy?
Okay, so, each person is allocated 10,000 square feet of space, but only 1,000 of that is for food. the other 9,000 is much less mutable with the introduction of new technologies so let's assume only the food production area is affected. 1000/2.7=~370.4 1000-370.4=629.6 square feet of freed up space. The new amount of space each person needs is ~9370.4 square feet so for every 14.88 people there is now room for one additional person This is actually only an increase by about 6.7%. Still objectively a lot on the scales we're working on but not that big a deal, big picture.
 
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Okay, so, each person is allocated 10,000 square feet of space, but only 1,000 of that is for food. the other 9,000 is much less mutable with the introduction of new technologies so let's assume only the food production area is affected. 1000/2.7=~370.4 1000-370.4=629.6 square feet of freed up space. The new amount of space each person needs is ~9370.4 square feet so for every 14.88 people there is now room for one additional person This is actually only an increase by about 6.7%. Still objectively a lot on the scales we're working on but not that big a deal, big picture.

Oh, so 5000->5335. Okay.
 
He can, he just prefers not to if at all possible. It's not like Exterminatus(of most types), you can't un-blow up a star and there's only so many of those around. He's not gonna be able to make more faster than they burn out. Not any time soon anyway.
So what, there is a ork waaagh with moons and planets as battleships. Like the time to conserve resources has long past. The entire point of the great rush of the crusade, to prevent the orks from escalating. Well they have escalated .
 
So what, there is a ork waaagh with moons and planets as battleships. Like the time to conserve resources has long past. The entire point of the great rush of the crusade, to prevent the orks from escalating. Well they have escalated .

He's pretty sure Serras can handle it. Besides, supernovas are limited to light speed, and War Worlds and the like care a lot less about the whole gravity disrupting the Warp Drive for obvious reasons. Though... well, you'll see.
 
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I have, upon further reflection, noted an unaccounted for (and unaccountable by me) variable. The communal 8,000 square feet presumably includes factories and stuff which are now fully obsolete but the numbers I have don't break it up that far so we can't calculate its effect with any precision.

Hm, well, 1% of the factories would be kept around to keep the relevant skills intact just in case of some kind of Subspace cataclysm, but most of the 8000 feet would be expunged, yeah.
 
Hm, well, 1% of the factories would be kept around to keep the relevant skills intact just in case of some kind of Subspace cataclysm, but most of the 8000 feet would be expunged, yeah.
Well the problem is that the 8,000 feet is to cover everything that isn't farms and apartments. Stores, parks, schools, clubs, everything. We can't know how much of that is factory.
 
I think Emps had better things to do than worry about Astartes being capable of having sex, just saying :D
Though to answer your original question, yes, they should, simply by dint of Emps&Seras not bothering to mess with the reproductive capabilities of the Astartes, because... well, they had no reason to do so. So yes, they're very much capable of having sex >.>
They can reproduce, they just have no sex drive. Like, Emps didn't want Astartes to multiply naturally. Also, you could say it partly helps against Slaneesh.
 
What of the 25270% bonus? Emps still has 25000 Food STCs.
Sorry Ilbgar, but I think it's ridiculous that the bonus is that great. A) There wasn't ever a need for that much food by DAoT humanity and B) That's just plain ridiculous, it males no sense if you look at canon. Like, Emps would have given the designs over to the Mechanicum and told them to produce these to feed the GC in canon, whoch he didn't.
 
Sorry Ilbgar, but I think it's ridiculous that the bonus is that great. A) There wasn't ever a need for that much food by DAoT humanity and B) That's just plain ridiculous, it males no sense if you look at canon. Like, Emps would have given the designs over to the Mechanicum and told them to produce these to feed the GC in canon, whoch he didn't.

He didn't?
 
I mean most of those calcs are pointless. Aren't we moving to a narrative quest. We either have enouhh food or not. The exact number don't matter
 
Why wouldn't they use hydroponics then? If Emps had them, he would handed those out, because then he could use the former Agri worlds as Hive/Factory worlds to fuel the Great Crusade.

No, they'd be using hydroponics, just not having whole buildings dedicated to the task of food, or massive chunks of entire Arcologies.

I've mentioned that Emps' original plan was to go full hard sci-fi paperclip AI on humanity after the GC concluded and Chaos was starved out from lack of worship(he thought) so he purposefully restricted hard sci-fi tech in canon, with plans to start on it later. Until then, they'd be working with Hives and mostly existing square area with food, beyond large-scale hydroponic greenhouses.

Since Serras is going full ham on hard sci-fi already, he's shrugged his shoulder and decided to just drown Chaos in positive examples of their Domains(of the ones with positive examples) to reform them by force, which was the last step of his plan with them.
 
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No, they'd be using hydroponics, just not having whole buildings dedicated to the task of food, or massive chunks of entire Arcologies.
Well, can you then explain why Agri Worlds were still needed? This just seems like a pointless number creep. DAoT humanity didn't have as many humans as even the fledgling Imperium during the GC. Why should they have gone so hard on food production then?
 
Well, can you then explain why Agri Worlds are still needed? This just seems like a pointless number creep. DAoT humanity didn't have as many humans as even the fledgling Imperium during the GC. Why should they have gone so hard on food production then?

Uh, yes they did. A ton of worlds got wiped out, or regressed technologically from the psychic disasters, malicious AI, and plain old breakdown of the government. Made a few edits to the post you quoted as well.
 
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