An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.5%
  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%
  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 379 44.5%

  • Total voters
    851
[X] Medic... You lack knowledge of Medicine, and would like to remedy this after having it practically thrown in your face as doctors debated on how to safely implant the cloned glands grown from tissue you donated. Chance of Success: 100%. Reward: +15 to all categories of Medicine. 20% chance of increasing Combat by 1 from greater understanding of the limits of the body and how to take advantage of them.

[X] Tactically Sound. General Richards took note of your efforts to improve on the basics of small-scale combat, and is willing tutor you in larger-scale fighting to help round you out. Chance of Success: 100%. Reward: +15 to all Tactics categories. 20% chance of raising Martial by 1 from greater understanding of tactics.
 
are those genetic modifications inheritable? if one of the parents got them will that allow his/her children to have those since birth?

will the introduction of psyker Primarch gene to human gene pool increase number of human psykers? does this decrease/removes blank mutation from human genome?

is there any kind of religions present in the system?

in which segmentum that system is located?
 
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are those genetic modifications inheritable? if one of the parents got them will that allow his/her children to have those since birth?

will the introduction of psyker Primarch gene to human gene pool increase number of human psykers? does this decrease/removes blank mutation from human genome?

is there any kind of religions present in the system?

in which segmentum that system is located?

Psykerness is not necessarily genetically related. If it was, there wouldn't be so many issues with it.

The comparison I made earlier was "Analyzing a Primarch's genetic code to create superior gene-boosts for conventional humans is like having Excalibur as your reference to make a normal sword. Still better than the rock you were using before, but you've got a long way to go"
 
are those genetic modifications inheritable? if one of the parents got them will that allow his/her children to have those since birth?

will the introduction of psyker Primarch gene to human gene pool increase number of human psykers? does this decrease/removes blank mutation from human genome?

is there any kind of religions present in the system?

in which segmentum that system is located?

Yes, the gene-mods are inheritable, though only the basic ones.

Psyker genes, Primarch or no, aren't the only thing that determines a psyker's power, or even if they're a psyker or not. I've always been of the opinion that it has to do with the soul itself at least as much as the genetic component.

No real religion. Too many cultists in it's early history made Thernus take a stance similar to the Emperor.

You're in Segmentum Solar.
Adhoc vote count started by ilbgar123 on Sep 14, 2017 at 6:03 PM, finished with 27 posts and 16 votes.
 
Education: Esoteric is the one that lines up with warpiness, and if we're going to do Science to Psioncs, then we should have a strong understanding of how warpy things work, right?
That's true, along with recognizing Warp-signs that aren't necessarily evident to psychic senses.

[X] Further Training.
[X] Be Creative.
[X] Tactically Sound.
[X] Medic...
[X] Train Perception: Objects
[X] Train Education: Esoteric
 
Yes, the gene-mods are inheritable, though only the basic ones.

Psyker genes, Primarch or no, aren't the only thing that determines a psyker's power, or even if they're a psyker or not. I've always been of the opinion that it has to do with the soul itself at least as much as the genetic component.

No real religion. Too many cultists in it's early history made Thernus take a stance similar to the Emperor.

You're in Segmentum Solar.
can we able to make more superior and inheritable gene mode after we reach our potential?

how about some kind of Zen Buddhism as religion?
 
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can we able to make more superior and inheritable gene mode after we reach our potential?

It's more the reason the Imperium doesn't let Chapters go past the 1000 limit, that is, they don't want people gaining too much power without some form of regulation. The common man's gene mods are always going to be a level below the absolute best, which will be reserved for the best and brightest.
 
It's more the reason the Imperium doesn't let Chapters go past the 1000 limit, that is, they don't want people gaining too much power without some form of regulation. The common man's gene mods are always going to be a level below the absolute best, which will be reserved for the best and brightest.
no i am not saying space marine level enhancement, that will tie-up far too many resources. I am saying just optimizing human genome may be captain America level enhancement, plus bit enhanced regeneration. is it possible to make this standardized gene mode? and inheritable?
 
no i am not saying space marine level enhancement, that will tie-up far too many resources. I am saying just optimizing human genome may be captain America level enhancement, plus bit enhanced regeneration. is it possible to make this standardized gene mode? and inheritable?

That's actually really, really easy by Imperial standards. It's just that Captain America level isn't shit on the galactic scale.
 
That, I think we can do.
is it possible to make it so if any genetically modified person interbreed with normal than the resulting offspring will always be genetically modified? According to lore, The gene-seed itself is encoded with all the genetic information needed to reshape ordinary human cell clusters into the special organs Space Marines possess in those instances where they are not directly implanted after being cultured outside the body. The gene-seed contains genetically-engineered viral machines which rebuild the male human body according to the biological template contained within it and originally crafted by the scientific acumen of the Emperor. So maybe we can replicate this function some way to make sure much lesser scale, like targeting the gene of son/daughter and convert it into similar to a modified person when they are in the womb? maybe even target particular genetic abnormalities like the blank genome or any kind of harmful mutation?

p.s. normal gene will provide junk gene to make sure inbreeding does not happen and genetic versatility and integrity maintained, Noncoding DNA separate genes from each other with long gaps, so mutation in one gene or part of a chromosome, for example deletion or insertion, does not have a frameshift effect on the whole chromosome. When genome complexity is relatively high, like in the case of human genome, not only between different genes, but also inside many genes, there are gaps of introns to protect the entire coding segment and minimise the changes caused by mutation. Non-coding DNA may perhaps serve to decrease the probability of gene disruption during chromosomal crossover.
 
That's actually really, really easy by Imperial standards. It's just that Captain America level isn't shit on the galactic scale.

True, but if the entire Imperial Guard is at CA levels of fitness, speed, and durability, I'd imagine it would make them a decent bit better and more survivable. And every man who walks off one battlefield is a man who can walk onto another. If those enhancements increased Guardsman survival rates by even 5%, I would consider it a worthwhile investment.
 
is it possible to make it so if any genetically modified person interbreed with normal than the resulting offspring will always be genetically modified? According to lore, The gene-seed itself is encoded with all the genetic information needed to reshape ordinary human cell clusters into the special organs Space Marines possess in those instances where they are not directly implanted after being cultured outside the body. The gene-seed contains genetically-engineered viral machines which rebuild the male human body according to the biological template contained within it and originally crafted by the scientific acumen of the Emperor. So maybe we can replicate this function some way to make sure much lesser scale, like targeting the gene of son/daughter and convert it into similar to a modified person when they are in the womb? maybe even target particular genetic abnormalities like the blank genome or any kind of harmful mutation?

p.s. normal gene will provide junk gene to make sure inbreeding does not happen and genetic versatility and integrity maintained, Noncoding DNA separate genes from each other with long gaps, so mutation in one gene or part of a chromosome, for example deletion or insertion, does not have a frameshift effect on the whole chromosome. When genome complexity is relatively high, like in the case of human genome, not only between different genes, but also inside many genes, there are gaps of introns to protect the entire coding segment and minimise the changes caused by mutation. Non-coding DNA may perhaps serve to decrease the probability of gene disruption during chromosomal crossover.

Doesn't really work that way.

TBH, the kind of shit you're asking for is the sort of thing that's basically standard among anyone but the Imperium's bottom feeders anyway. It just might not be available right this second.

But ordinary human beings typically aren't capable of shrugging off small arm fire as long as they're wearing a decent coat.

There's a reason that everything but Dark Heresy has 25 as the baseline Characteristic, with mods adding onto that, while Dark Heresy has 20, it's because anything above Dark Heresy's bottomfeeder level actually does get to benefit from those "Captain America" genemods.

Which isn't to say getting it early can't be useful, but by the time of 40K, those kinds of mods are basically standard for anyone who actually matters. Barring Only War of course, because that system is just broken as hell.
 
Doesn't really work that way.

TBH, the kind of shit you're asking for is the sort of thing that's basically standard among anyone but the Imperium's bottom feeders anyway. It just might not be available right this second.

But ordinary human beings typically aren't capable of shrugging off small arm fire as long as they're wearing a decent coat.

There's a reason that everything but Dark Heresy has 25 as the baseline Characteristic, with mods adding onto that, while Dark Heresy has 20, it's because anything above Dark Heresy's bottomfeeder level actually does get to benefit from those "Captain America" genemods.

Which isn't to say getting it early can't be useful, but by the time of 40K, those kinds of mods are basically standard for anyone who actually matters. Barring Only War of course, because that system is just broken as hell.

I'm gonna say that, once it's done, the project gives a +10 to all future project rolls where other people are involved, and a plus 10 to all PDF rolls. However, they'll keep working on it in the background, and the bonus increases by 5 every 5 years for 50 years, ending with a plus 60 bonus by the time the Great Crusade is going on. They won't be Space Marines, but they'll be way past normal human.
 
I'm gonna say that, once it's done, the project gives a +10 to all future project rolls where other people are involved, and a plus 10 to all PDF rolls. However, they'll keep working on it in the background, and the bonus increases by 5 every 5 years for 50 years, ending with a plus 60 bonus by the time the Great Crusade is going on. They won't be Space Marines, but they'll be way past normal human.
Ooh, nice :cool:
 
That's actually really, really easy by Imperial standards. It's just that Captain America level isn't shit on the galactic scale.
Peak Human Strength: Rogers' physical strength is enhanced to the very peak of human potential, consistently able to sustain lifts of 800 lbs (363 kg). This strength also extends to his legs, enabling him to leap 20 ft (6 m) out in a single bound and 10 ft (3 m) into the air without a running start. He can snap steel handcuffs and chains, throw his shield with enough force to dislodge the turret ring of a tank, and is capable of breaking through wooden walls and steel doors with a single kick.

Peak Human Speed: Rogers can move at speeds equal to that of the absolute finest human athlete, capable of running at a sustained 30 mph (48 kph), though he has shown capacity to sprint at twice that pace over shorter distances when necessary.

Peak Human Durability: His bones and muscles are denser and harder and so are amplified to the highest human potential, making him very durable. He is durable enough to the point that if a person beats him with a metal bat stick, the bat would break and Rogers would show little discomfort. This is how he survived other forms of extensive punishment throughout his career, such as a fall from several stories, like the time he landed on a car from 2000 feet, or a high altitude, low open parachute jump from ten miles up, with little to no injury.

Peak Human Agility: His agility is greater than that of an Olympic gold medalist. He can coordinate his body with balance, flexibility, and dexterity. He is quick to block bullets with his shield while falling.

Peak Human Reflexes: Rogers' reflexes border on superhuman level. His reaction speed is 20 kph, which makes it possible for him to dodge gunfire, even at point blank range, from multiple shooters simultaneously.

Peak Human Stamina: Rogers' body eliminates the excessive build-up of fatigue-producing chemicals in his muscles, granting him exceptional endurance and lung capacity. He can exert himself at peak capacity for a hour without any rest and before showing any signs of fatigue. At one time, he is able to sprint for over 5 miles without any sign of fatigue.

Accelerated Healing: Rogers' healing speed and efficiency is at the highest limits of human potential, which means he can heal faster than most humans. The white blood cells and super-soldier serum in his body are efficient enough to fight off any microbe, foreign body, and other pathogens from his body, keeping him healthy and immune from all infections, diseases, disorders, etc. Rogers furthermore cannot become intoxicated by alcohol, drugs, or impurities in the air, and is thus immune to terrestrial diseases. He is also immune to hypnosis or gases that could limit his focus, which makes him genetically perfect.

Peak Mental Processing: His mental performance operates in the most efficient and rapid manner possible, and able to processes the world in the most advance and efficient manner. He possesses perfect pattern solving/recognition, limitless information storage/retrieval, perfect perception/observational skills, and logical/philosophical structuring. His mind also processes information quickly, giving him an accelerated learning aptitude. Rogers can also quickly analyze multiple, limitless information streams (e.g., threat assessment) and rapidly respond to changing tactical situations. He possesses an eidetic memory (he never forgets anything and has perfect instant recall), he can read at superhuman speeds, has perfect deductive/reasoning skills, and can intuitively understand what's going to happen and how to deal with it. This enables him to remember any military tactic and apply it to any situation, making him the best tactician in history.

Peak Human Senses: Rogers' senses of sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch are at the highest possible limits of human potential. He once said that he is able to dodge bullets because he sees faster than them.

Advanced Longevity: The SSS halts Rogers's aging due to perfect cells. This was tested when he spent a decade in Dimension Z, yet returned to Earth the same day with no noticeable signs of aging.

now add khala that mean hivemind like coordination, plus safe psychic power but weaker in scale and this will vastly increase the speed of information analyzation and processing. if a person who is linked learn something then others who are completely linked with him/her will also learn it, it is basically path system where they have to spend less time to learn about a subject. plus if khala effect is active than any person dead will be added to the link, their experience/knowledge will remain intact, their souls will remain outside chaos influence and those who are living can tap his/her knowledge making any chance of information loss utterly impossible.
 
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Looking at our character pic I keeping imagining a certain very angery primarch turning into a hyper protective big brother the moment he sees us for the frist time.
 
If we can pull this off, we can make baseline humans relevant again! Because let's be real, baseline humans do jack and shit when it comes to everything else in the universe. I mean most imperial guard regiments just bleed on the enemy. I want them to be relevant again instead of holding the line, taking it as well. By the way, what doe we look like?
 
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