An Extra Primarch
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Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
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I tried to think of a funny reply to this, but I am just in awe of how perfectly you encapsulated everything that Serras is.
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- Germany
I am not sure how absurd with how slow our start was and how low our abilitys where that is compared to some of the other primarchs.
We also have mentors (which can help to a certain degree) and access to alot of information that the primarchs likely never got (hello elder and thanks for all that data).
297 minor action
for some more planing on what to do say we go with getting everything to 75 and admin and learning to 100 +20% space for the dice to be evil. :186
we now use some action to max out education (start for everything divine 60 ?) => 7 actions ? per branch *3 => 21 actions needed.
90 minor action +161 minor actions from education + learning. = 361 minor action
The problem now is that i am not sure how many action are need to get each branch of psyker, innovation and forge to divine 200 (i am think of 25-30 per branch *9 would make 225 or 270 minor action need).
136-91 minor actions left. ~81 would be need to convert to inovation action to get the lab up to 500k
that would leave 55-10 minor action to sl interactions.
Edit. we will need the all the skills pretty much completed at divine or we might as well stop with most research actions after a certain after a certain point as the needed points get way to high. Even with maxed skill + learning i don´t see how we would get even one tech completly finished inside of a any reasonable timeframe for most things (psy tech might be something we could push to the end).
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Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
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- United States
@ilbgar123 what are the prerequisites for creating Infinity, Life, Plan, Plot, Rotation, Machine, Mercy, Stop, Skip, Travel, and Acceleration runes?
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Here are the actions I'd like in the next plan, whether this turn (if we get additional actions) or for turn 17.
A +10 omake bonus on the last Administration or Learning roll would effectively shave off one training action, which isn't actually all that much.
Since the EXP gained in our invention actions will let us reach level 84, we only need to train Education 7 times instead of 8.
I tried to get a feel how much time a minor action actually represents because I wanted to find out whether the party needed more than one action. Can someone explain to me why most of the 456 integration actions in "Plan: Shaking off the Dust" require Serras' personal attention?
Edit: Changed plan component (tools, runes, Hive Worlds, invention/forging/electronics tutor SL 8)
A +10 omake bonus on the last Administration or Learning roll would effectively shave off one training action, which isn't actually all that much.
Since the EXP gained in our invention actions will let us reach level 84, we only need to train Education 7 times instead of 8.
I tried to get a feel how much time a minor action actually represents because I wanted to find out whether the party needed more than one action. Can someone explain to me why most of the 456 integration actions in "Plan: Shaking off the Dust" require Serras' personal attention?
As far as I understand, actions from GDE and Incredible Policies are performed by the Bastion's administration without input from Serras. That means that only the 53 actions from the Cultural Analysis perks are actually performed by Serras herself. I'm somewhat baffled how bureaucrats should e.g. "Continue improving Terraforming" or "Continue improving your education, mundane and Psyker".
Edit: Changed plan component (tools, runes, Hive Worlds, invention/forging/electronics tutor SL 8)
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Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
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- United States
"Plan Perfectionism". I can see Slaanesh liking this a lot. Or Fulgrim.
Probably Fulgrim.
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
You need at least one Skill.
You get your rule. Exotics after the first set of Sub-Skills have -1 to training rate per Exotic.
Infinity is a weird one, the prerequisites are fuzzy at best, but Space is one. Life requires Motion, Energy, Soul, Mind. Plan, Plot, Ploy, and Tactics are interchangeable. Rotation requires Motion. Machine requires Metal, Motion, and Energy. Stop and Skip require Time. Travel requires Space and Time. Acceleration requires Speed and Motion.
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Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
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- He/Him
What about Nihilism or Nothingness?
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
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- United States
Or Universe/Universal.
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
Nihilism requires Despair, Apathy, Hatred. Nothingness can technically be formed once any opposing Concept pair is made, but Light and Darkness work best.
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
Space, Time, Reality, Power, Mind, Soul, Dimension, Infinity, Connection, Bind, Balance.
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- New Zealand
We have all Exotic Education branches now.
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
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- United States
I think that Infinity requires a Rune for Mathematics/Numbers, Possibility, and Certainty.
This is awesome, btw.
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- Germany
Thanks!
I wasn't aware we could ask about the prerequisites for crystals. What about the five I listed in my proto-plan fragment?
Serras/Self, Disbelief, Individuality, Cooperation, and Precision?
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
She has Self. Disbelief is basically the opposite of Faith. Individuality is more or less available now. Cooperation/Teamwork requires Combination and Connection/Bond. Pretty sure Precision is already made, but it's available if not.
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- LEO
What do we need to create diffrent kinds of megastructures? Do we need to do research into the different options, or would an omake do it?
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Oh? I thought Self currently was a rune without corresponding concept crystal.
I had hoped that, by making Serras' Self crystal part of Hydaelyn's domain, she would become an artificial perpetual, since her Self would continue to exist even if she died. Ah well.
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
Doesn't work that way. An individual who is an actual sapient is too complex for that to work. You'd be harder to True Death, sure, and with a Primarch that's hard to begin with, but not Vulkan-tier 'Basically impossible to perma-kill.'
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@ilbgar123 What are the prerequisites for Crystal, Rune, Meta, Primarch, Hydaelyn and... Perpetual?
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- LEO
There has to be a better way to do this. We can't just keep bothering QM. Maybe some kind of spreadsheet, where more of it gets revealed as we discover more stuff? There has to be a better way.
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It's not too bad, really, if only because we're limited to 5 per turn - random reader curiosity isn't too overwhelming.
Now, when that restriction is lifted and we spend a few turns making 50 at once, then it'll be bad.
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
Crystal should be doable now. Rune needs Shape and Form. I'm not sure if you have Power yet, but you need it. Meta... don't try to make Deadpool. Primarch is derivative of Humanity, Psyker, Power, Guide, and a bunch of other stuff. Hydaelyn technically makes a Crystal of herself every time one is made. Perpetual requires Immortality, Soul, Mind, Regeneration, and Humanity, as natural Perpetuals are a human thing.
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I was actually thinking of metamagic from dnd - magic that affects other magic, so using something to affect itself, like using runes on runes. Thanks for answering!